|
-
-
chocula
- Broke Member
posted: Dec. 6, 2006 @ 5:56p
You go Poodleman. I am so happy you won.
I have Verizon messing with me now about a screw up they did. I will see how it goes.
|
-
-
PoodleMan
- Ancient Member
posted: Dec. 6, 2006 @ 6:26p
Just remember, jot down everyone's name and operator ID (if available) that you speak with. Also the time and number called and call center (if known) are helpful. Otherwise their records will become unavailable or lost when YOU need them. Biggest thing is to keep organized.
As this forum frequently shows, you have recourse if you are unable to come to a reasonable agreement with an offending party. That doesn't mean that you should be cocky when dealing with them simply in order to iritate them and force escalation. By all means, by being decent, you have a greater chance of reaching your goal/resolution. In conflicts with businesses, I tend to be as polite as possible at first and escalate things little by little as the situation warrants. Although it is a bit tedious, it usually works out in the end.
Keep all your documents provided by the company in a safe place. Terms of service are frequently helpful in determining what possible recourse you have. Don't lose them, as they may be amended in the future.
~ Poodleman
P.S.: I should remind everyone that I am NOT a lawyer. I have gotten quite a few PM's from folks. I appreciate the votes of confidence. While I enjoy reading them and offering suggestions that I feel might be helpful; please do not rely too heavily on my words. They are simply my opinions based on the life experiences that I have had. That said, by all means, feel free to PM me with this understood.
chocula said:You go Poodleman. I am so happy you won.
I have Verizon messing with me now about a screw up they did. I will see how it goes.
Edit: fixed one line of text |
-
-
wzhang22
- Broke Member
posted: Dec. 6, 2006 @ 7:15p
Congraluations. Pls post the details how you sued them. For consumers like us with little legal resources, large corporations have huge advantages over us. Thanks for sharing your experiences. Now they finally hear you. |
-
-
SUCKISSTAPLES
- Charter Member
posted: Dec. 6, 2006 @ 7:19p
My hats off to you OP!!
I frequently recommend consumers seek recourse via small claims suit if they are in the right and a company refuses to take them seriously.
I hope this post is an inspiration to others and motivates other readers not to be scared of the legal system. Accumulate your evidence and obtain satisfaction!
Small claims court is easily accessible to the public, does not require detailed knowledge of the law, and filing fees are minimal. Many courts offer free assistance clinics to help you file your suit and prepare (they dont want ill-informed people coming in so they have resources to help).
In most jurisdictions, a company is not allowed to send a lawyer to battle against you in small claims, they must send a company rep. That costs them $$.
Your "time, inconvenience, etc" is almost never recoverable. Filing fees are. |
-
-
PoodleMan
- Ancient Member
posted: Dec. 6, 2006 @ 7:50p
The process is fairly easy. Go to your local or district courthouse and ask for a "Notice of Small Claims." On this form, indicate the amount (you may have to specify a dollar value) that you are seeking and indicate the reason that you feel you are owed this amount. List your contact information and the defendant's contact information. Also, you may have to indicate whether or not you are willing to go through arbitrartion/mediation and whether, to the best of your knowledge, the defendant is in the military. You will take this form and the court costs, usually around 50 bucks and get them to the clerk of court or his designee. You will likely be given a date and time of trial on the spot. They will then serve the defendant with this paperwork. Voila; that's all there is to it.
wzhang22 said:Congraluations. Pls post the details how you sued them. For consumers like us with little legal resources, large corporations have huge advantages over us. Thanks for sharing your experiences. Now they finally hear you. |
-
-
PoodleMan
- Ancient Member
posted: Dec. 6, 2006 @ 7:52p
I didn't even attempt to get money for time/inconvenience. However, I did indicate that the consumer protection statutes are designed to prevent this type of harm and that they should be liable for the legal maximum damages, partially as a result of the inconvenience that I experienced. However, I did not request money specifically for this item. Thanks for the post.
SUCKISSTAPLES said:My hats off to you OP!!
I frequently recommend consumers seek recourse via small claims suit if they are in the right and a company refuses to take them seriously.
I hope this post is an inspiration to others and motivates other readers not to be scared of the legal system. Accumulate your evidence and obtain satisfaction!
Small claims court is easily accessible to the public, does not require detailed knowledge of the law, and filing fees are minimal. Many courts offer free assistance clinics to help you file your suit and prepare (they dont want ill-informed people coming in so they have resources to help).
In most jurisdictions, a company is not allowed to send a lawyer to battle against you in small claims, they must send a company rep. That costs them $$.
Your "time, inconvenience, etc" is almost never recoverable. Filing fees are. |
-
-
thecpa
- Member
posted: Dec. 6, 2006 @ 7:55p
Poodleman, they should call you Pitbull man! You got one big bite!!!
How else can I say that you're our hero.
I was screwed by T Mobile and had to continue paying on the account. In the future, I will do what you did.
Way to go Poodleman! (ruff!) |
-
-
PoodleMan
- Ancient Member
posted: Dec. 6, 2006 @ 7:57p
Thanks! Much love!
~ Poodleman
thecpa said:Poodleman, they should call you Pitbull man! You got one bit bite!!!
How else can I say that you're our hero.
I was screwed by T Mobile and had to continue paying on the account. In the future, I will do what you did.
Way to go Poodleman! (ruff!) |
-
-
kronus
- Ancient Member
posted: Dec. 6, 2006 @ 8:32p
Please put this thread in a sticky somewhere. |
-
-
codename47
- Senior Member - 3K
posted: Dec. 6, 2006 @ 8:40p
One note too on going to small claims and why you better be ready to deal in Federal: a standard MO for many companies is that they will remove a case to Federal and then make an offer for judgment to cap their losses.
They can do this if you have filed under a Federal statute, which is what most consumer protection laws are, so don't think that you always will be able to just proceed in small claims.
Just saying it is an options some companies like to exercise. |
-
-
thedealdude
- Tired Member
posted: Dec. 6, 2006 @ 9:10p
If you are thinking about suing a company, check for the registered agent..you will need that address. Usually your Secretary of State has an online database to check it. |
-
-
germanpope
- Frivolous Member
posted: Dec. 6, 2006 @ 9:20p
people like to complain about too much litigation but an explosion of litigation on the bottom end --- the regular working folks who are getting screwed actually fighting back --- might not be such a bad thing |
-
-
Squeezer99
- Addicted Member
posted: Dec. 6, 2006 @ 9:32p
thedealdude said:If you are thinking about suing a company, check for the registered agent..you will need that address. Usually your Secretary of State has an online database to check it.
yeah http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registered_Agent explains registered agent |
-
-
timothy86
- Senior Member - 3K
posted: Dec. 6, 2006 @ 9:57p
I really love when people don't understand big companies.
This problem should have never occured in the first place.
This was your fault from the beginning. |
-
-
codename47
- Senior Member - 3K
posted: Dec. 6, 2006 @ 10:09p
This was your fault from the beginning. You are joking, right?
Also, the registered agent for the company doesn't have to be notified, per se. I generally send a copy via certified mail to the corp headquarters for the CEO or legal office, and they typically know what to do with it. |
-
-
silvr
- Member
posted: Dec. 6, 2006 @ 11:29p
I was clicking through lifehacker and I ran across this.
Consumerist |
-
-
PoodleMan
- Ancient Member
posted: Dec. 7, 2006 @ 12:57a
That's a good point. I made sure to list their regional corporate headquarters, as opposed to the PO box used for billing. That way they would have a hard time suggesting that they didn't receive the summons.
thedealdude said:If you are thinking about suing a company, check for the registered agent..you will need that address. Usually your Secretary of State has an online database to check it. |
-
-
PoodleMan
- Ancient Member
posted: Dec. 7, 2006 @ 12:58a
Sorry codename. Didn't read your post until after I posted the last one. You are right. At least in my case, everything was fine with it going to corporate.
codename47 said:This was your fault from the beginning. You are joking, right?
Also, the registered agent for the company doesn't have to be notified, per se. I generally send a copy via certified mail to the corp headquarters for the CEO or legal office, and they typically know what to do with it. |
-
-
PoodleMan
- Ancient Member
posted: Dec. 7, 2006 @ 1:01a
Regardless of my level of (or lack of) intelligence, I think the "big company" understood a court order.
timothy86 said:I really love when people don't understand big companies.
This problem should have never occured in the first place.
This was your fault from the beginning. |
-
-
PoodleMan
- Ancient Member
posted: Dec. 7, 2006 @ 1:01a
The real shame is that Verizon does, in fact, have some of the best coverage. However, that comes at the cost of horrible customer service and expensive rates. I suppose one can't win on all fronts. |
Close
|
|
 |
 |
Not Already A Member?
Sign Up Now!
|
|
Disclaimer: By providing links to other sites, FatWallet.com does not guarantee, approve or endorse the information or products available at these sites, nor does a link indicate any association with or endorsement by the linked site to FatWallet.com.
|
|