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I opened up a HSBC credit card with a 12-months 0% offer in May of this year. I have been making perfect/minimum payments on this account. I found out that my rate has been hacked to 20+% for November, and was charged $150 in finance charge.

I called customer service, and was told that a "change of term" was sent to me in my August statement. I don't remember reading such term. The rep said she had no access to the actual letter, just that it was send to "many members" and that it had something to do with the "behavior of the account." She made specific reference about how I didn't use the account after the balance transfer.

So, if you have an HSBC account and have been taking advantage of the 0%, watch your account.

Also, I was always under the impression that CC companies can change your terms, but not the intro APR, unless you default on any accounts (which I haven't). It doesn't look like HSBC is following this.

Should I pay off my balance now to avoid further finance charge, or should I complain to higher up and see if I can get my 0% reinstated?


If you have a HSBC credit with promotional balance, and you haven't used the card for a long time, you may have been subjected to a rate jack on your account. In addition, your promotional balances may be subjected to the default APR too, even if they are not supposed to. This was an error on HSBC part and they are working to correct it.

- Check your statement to see if you have the higher APR
- Call customer service to confirm that there was an error on your specific account
- Wait 1 - 2 billing cycles for the fix to be effective
- If you want to be safe, pay off you BT and send HSBC a written billing dispute

Message edited by: ckpeter on 2006-12-09 00:42:29 CST
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Balance transfer away, switch to paper billing, and shred the card.


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I already have paper billing.

Also, note that this is not just my account. The rep said that *many accounts* are affected. Plus, this also goes contrary to the custom of how the intro APR should not be changeable, even if one's credit score were to change.


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Not only Rate Jacking, they will also charge you $xx annual fee at your card's anniversary date. The CSR didn't tell you??

HSBC credit card sucks.


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See my post from a few days ago on The adverse action thread. HSBC sent me a letter and it read, (as I typed it on that thread) that the rate jack would go into effect in January for all "existing balances." I called and they said it doesn't have affect on intro rate. But I think I may still pay them off.


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OP said:She made specific reference about how I didn't use the account after the balance transfer.

This is new news to me. I didn't know that they could do that. So what's to prevent Chase, Citi, Discover from doing the same thing and rate jacking you when they find out you haven't made purchases on top of your balance transfer?


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Man where is Ajulius to defend HSBC and qoute some useless info from the FDIC web page to demonstrate why HSBC had rate jack people and why Ckpeter and Highmktgoods did something to get their rates jacked.

I dont know I think HSBC bank is one of the worst bank around. They loose your money for 2 days to their advantage due to what they claim are limits in their online ACH system. They rate jack people etc. They treat everyone like sub prime scum.

Yet people bash BOA, American Express and Citibank for being conservitive in thier lending practices and doing FR on people and canceling their account if people grossly misrepresented their income or ablity to pay. Except they dont rate jack people even if they do close your account they allow you to conitue and pay under the agreements of your promo till it expires.

Wow shocked CN did not recomend filing a federal law suit against HSBC for rate jacking people. Federal Class Action Lawsuit.


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highmktgoods said:See my post from a few days ago on The adverse action thread. HSBC sent me a letter and it read, (as I typed it on that thread) that the rate jack would go into effect in January for all "existing balances." I called and they said it doesn't have affect on intro rate. But I think I may still pay them off.

I read what you posted. However, I seem to be in a worse situation than you are. I actually elevated and talked to an account manager, but to no avail (he was either as helpless, or as unwilling to help, as the frontline CSR). I got a number for "upper management" with an extesion, but this is after I pressed him for the address to the President's Office.

Also, unlike in your case, I have already been charged with the default rate on my existing balance.


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xpguy said:OP said:She made specific reference about how I didn't use the account after the balance transfer.

This is new news to me. I didn't know that they could do that. So what's to prevent Chase, Citi, Discover from doing the same thing and rate jacking you when they find out you haven't made purchases on top of your balance transfer?


Exactly. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if they just want to close my account. However, this is noteworthy, because of the precedence that this sets - rate jacking on promotional balances, due to "behavior of the account."


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ckpeter said:Also, unlike in your case, I have already been charged with the default rate on my existing balance.if you are being charged the default rate, you better check all 3 bureau credit reports...

Im betting you have some negative info on there from some OTHER place, and HSBC invoked UNIVERSAL DEFAULT.

Check your reports. I seriously doubt HSBC is ratejacking you for no reason.


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SUCKISSTAPLES said:ckpeter said:Also, unlike in your case, I have already been charged with the default rate on my existing balance.if you are being charged the default rate, you better check all 3 bureau credit reports...

Im betting you have some negative info on there from some OTHER place, and HSBC invoked UNIVERSAL DEFAULT.

Check your reports. I seriously doubt HSBC is ratejacking you for no reason.


There is nothing negative on my reports.

Financially, I am being charged a rate of ~20%. This may or may not be the default rate. The CSR are being vague on it - the first one said that it was due to the "behavior" of the account, while the account manager mentioned my credit history. Neither of them had access to the actual reason for the rate jack. They kept referring to "business decisions."


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I wouldn't be terribly surprised if they just want to close my account.

Oh, no they don't want that. Only open account can generate fee income. They'll reduce your credit line to 300 bucks, but they won't close it.


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HSBC Bank is the antichrist!!


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ckpeter said:I opened up a HSBC credit card with a 12-months 0% offer in May of this year. I have been making perfect/minimum payments on this account. I found out that my rate has been hacked to 20+% for November, and was charged $150 in finance charge.

I called customer service, and was told that a "change of term" was sent to me in my August statement. I don't remember reading such term. The rep said she had no access to the actual letter, just that it was send to "many members" and that it had something to do with the "behavior of the account." She made specific reference about how I didn't use the account after the balance transfer.

So, if you have an HSBC account and have been taking advantage of the 0%, watch your account.

Also, I was always under the impression that CC companies can change your terms, but not the intro APR, unless you default on any accounts (which I haven't). It doesn't look like HSBC is following this.

Should I pay off my balance now to avoid further finance charge, or should I complain to higher up and see if I can get my 0% reinstated?


Banks do NOT raise introduction BT rate transfers without specific cause (late payment, income to credit utilization ratio, and so on). Alot of people have applied for the HSBC Direct Rewards Credit card and I have NOT heard of one complaint. In fact, to the contrary, cardholders were finding that they were getting REWARDS points for their balance transfer fees to boot.

You are obviously leaving something out, such as a recent late payment to HSBC or another credit card or issuer that you have or something inbetween if this senario really did happen or you are a subprime customer. Which specific HSBC Card was this, and do you have a perfect credit history? One late payment will jack the rate on ANY CC ISSUER.

If HSBC did something wrong I would be the first one to recommend filing a formal complaint, but so far you have not posted enough information to determine exactly what happened.

I have had cards with all the major issuers and have NEVER EVER received a rate jacking on a BT rate. Banks CAN raise rates on non promo rates at their discretion, in fact Chase applications even mention this can happen if you read the fine print for instance. As for HSBC the same thing would apply here.




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thats why OP needs to pull all 3 credit reports...even if there are no late payments, something like a 5 year old telephone bill could have gone to collecgions and cause a ratejack


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I agree with you. This is not the usual with any of the credit card issuers including HSBC.

The rep saying many accounts were affected is bogus. The complaint here is the only complaint I have seen so far. People have been VERY happy with the Direct Rewards cards for instance, the only problem is that they are VERY hard to get and alot of people with top credit scores were getting denied for them. The people I know with HSBC Direct Rewards have not seen any such rate jacking for BT transfers. EVERY bank will have rate jacking but I havent heard of one on a BT transfer rate before without the accountholder having serious issues (including failing to pay on time)

HSBC is a British bank but is now offering one of the BEST Rewards program in the industry for heavy spenders, in fact it was top rated by Money magazine apparently.

HSBC is just as reputable as a bank as any of the other players in the industry.

I would take the advice of SUCKISSTAPLES as something is red flagging you and you haven't posted enough information to determine what had happened.

g10ny took a balance transfer from HSBC. In that thread there have been 0 complaints of rate jacking.



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Might be another good reason to have daily tri-pulls with a credit monitoring service if you are going to be playing all of these games...to spot problems...op, I would pay off the bt right away and then fight the existing finance charges...


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It's clear that either the OP is intentionally not telling us about some negative info on his credit reports, or he is not aware of it yet.

He's probably wasted a lot of CSR time at HSBC.


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i pick not aware.


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