I'm 23, graduated Spring 06, moved back home, and started working in September 06. It's cool to see our products making the hot deals here. You guys sure take advantage of some of the deals from our retailers. I see the bills from them and it can be
I work in Orange County, CA and drive about 35 miles one way. Because of traffic it takes me 1.5 hour each way. Most of the employees at the company I am working for are a lot older than me, so they are living on their own. Even though I have a professional job, I feel like a child since I don't live on my own. I feel kind of embarass to tell people that, and it doesn't help when trying to meet a potential date.
Should I move out or not? Here is my situation:
Only bills I really have is a cell phone, dish network, gas, clothes, entertainment, eating out, etc. Living at home- No rent, no grocery shopping. Will save about 25K in 2007. 15K in 401k, and 10K in other investments. Only debt is 10K student loan, no need to pay it off early, so I will pay off in about 10 years. My future goals are to obtain an MBA and have a house/condo/townhome. I don't see myself being a homeowner anytime soon due to the prices in California but would like to have one by the time I'm 27.
IMO, your living at home is not the cause of making you feel like a child nor is it something that I would be totally embarrassed about, it's the fact that you are freeloading which I find bothersome. that is the reason why you like living at home, isn't it? contribute to your household that you live in, or move out - either of these options would make you more adult-like
are you kidding me? get a gf to live w/ u? girls are the cheapest creatures on earth, they will drain your wallet like crazy. they will make U buy useless junk that they will never use. they will waste utilities etc etcetc. go check out tom leykis man....
mhesidence said: MySilverEX00 said: So what would you do?
I moved out when I was 17, joined the army, used the army college fund to get an education.
What was the question? Oh yeah, I'd get a girl friend to spilt rent with and live a lot closer to work. 3 hours a day in traffic, no thanks.
MySilverEX00
Member
posted: Dec. 24, 2006 @ 4:51a
kaiotes said: go check out tom leykis man....
LOL. I do listen to him on my drive home to work.</blockquote>
leedsutd67
Senior Member
posted: Dec. 24, 2006 @ 6:45a
'even though I have a professional job, I feel like a child since I don't live on my own'.
Just say your parents live with you.
vinhboy
Tired Member
posted: Dec. 24, 2006 @ 9:22a
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fallenangel99
Shopaholic Member
posted: Dec. 24, 2006 @ 9:23a
Living at home- No rent, no grocery shopping. Will save about 25K in 2007. 15K in 401k, and 10K in other investments. ... My future goals are to obtain an MBA and have a house/condo/townhome. I don't see myself being a homeowner anytime
That should answer your question. Save/invest enough and you'll know when its time to move out.
lisak157
Thrifty Member
posted: Dec. 24, 2006 @ 9:31a
this horse has been beat dead...dead...dead.
my advice? get a roommate (girlfriend or not), move out and live someplace reasonably priced with a much shorter commute and visit the P's on the weekend to do your laundry and eat. Financially you might like living with the P's now(saving money etc...) but unless you like living under someone elses rules and reliving the script to "Failure to Launch", it's better to be in your own place for your own mental well being and....ahhheeemm....love life.
You Must Pay the Rent||||\\ once you are 18, you have to take on the role of a MAN.
so ante up it is just not mentally right to continue to be a user of your loving parents...they would never tell you to leave
RS4Rings
Back in Rehab
posted: Dec. 24, 2006 @ 12:37p
vinhboy said:
LOL get a girlfriend? That's like trying to put out a fire by pouring gasoline on it.
kaiotes said: are you kidding me? get a gf to live w/ u? girls are the cheapest creatures on earth, they will drain your wallet like crazy. they will make U buy useless junk that they will never use. they will waste utilities etc etcetc. go check out tom leykis man....
It sounds like if you want to live the true FW lifestyle you need to be either celibate or gay?
Rathipon
Greedy Member
posted: Dec. 24, 2006 @ 1:58p
3 hours a day of driving..
I say rent a cheap local apartment. The money you will save on gas and depreciation on your car, and the time saved to do something productive rather than sitting in traffic more than justify it.
jopher34
New Member
posted: Dec. 24, 2006 @ 2:20p
My situation is similar to yours, only a three year difference.
Your social life is whatever you make of it. In my experience, there is a lot of young professionals doing exactly the same thing -- I'm sure if you find that someone, you'll feel its the right time to move out.
Pay rent to your parents and help out on various expenses (whether you stay or not) at the least if you have the means. You were their burden for probably 18+ years and its just giving a little back.
Cut the commute (mine is 15-20 minutes) and get better hours if possible. Keeping the weekends/nights open is a must if you want to do stuff.
Make a list of things you want to do. It took me a year to figure that one out and I enjoy things a lot more (travel abroad, e.g: canada, asia, etc.)
anakinskywalker
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Dec. 24, 2006 @ 2:22p
scott1961 said: vinhboy said:
LOL get a girlfriend? That's like trying to put out a fire by pouring gasoline on it.
kaiotes said: are you kidding me? get a gf to live w/ u? girls are the cheapest creatures on earth, they will drain your wallet like crazy. they will make U buy useless junk that they will never use. they will waste utilities etc etcetc. go check out tom leykis man....
It sounds like if you want to live the true FW lifestyle you need to be either celibate or gay?
or become one the kind that goes on regular "business trips" to places like bang-kock, thigh-land ?
kaiotes said: are you kidding me? get a gf to live w/ u? girls are the cheapest creatures on earth, they will drain your wallet like crazy. they will make U buy useless junk that they will never use. they will waste utilities etc etcetc. go check out tom leykis man....
This is only partly a financial decision. While sometimes finances dictate that you have to live with the 'rents, if you have the financial freedom not to, then the choice is less a financial one than a personal one. You can make up a spreadsheet with the costs and benefits of both, but it ultimatly comes down to a bunch of questions that only you can answer. Questions like what kind of social life you want to have, what kind of relationship you have with your parents, how important saving is, and what your parent's expectations for you are (which is probably influenced by culture as well as by what they did at your age).
If you are doing the night MBA thing, it will probably cut at least somewhat into your free time, which may make living at home more tolerable since you are in class some of the time anyway.
FWIW, I moved back in with the 'rents a couple months after graduation, and moved back out and 3 states away six months later when a job opened up at the college I graduated from. Rented for 3.5 years and then bought a townhouse. On the other hand, my brother, who is 4 years older than me, just moved out of the parent's house and bought a condo - at age 30.
caonima
Senior Member
posted: Dec. 24, 2006 @ 5:40p
MySilverEX00 said: I'm 23, graduated Spring 06, moved back home, and started working in September 06. It's cool to see our products making the hot deals here. You guys sure take advantage of some of the deals from our retailers. I see the bills from them and it can be
I work in Orange County, CA and drive about 35 miles one way. Because of traffic it takes me 1.5 hour each way. Most of the employees at the company I am working for are a lot older than me, so they are living on their own. Even though I have a professional job, I feel like a child since I don't live on my own. I feel kind of embarass to tell people that, and it doesn't help when trying to meet a potential date.
Should I move out or not? Here is my situation:
Only bills I really have is a cell phone, dish network, gas, clothes, entertainment, eating out, etc. Living at home- No rent, no grocery shopping. Will save about 25K in 2007. 15K in 401k, and 10K in other investments. Only debt is 10K student loan, no need to pay it off early, so I will pay off in about 10 years. My future goals are to obtain an MBA and have a house/condo/townhome. I don't see myself being a homeowner anytime soon due to the prices in California but would like to have one by the time I'm 27.
So what would you do?
live at home if you have family value
mhesidence
Dismembered Member
posted: Dec. 24, 2006 @ 5:53p
kaiotes said: are you kidding me? get a gf to live w/ u? girls are the cheapest creatures on earth, they will drain your wallet like crazy. they will make U buy useless junk that they will never use. they will waste utilities etc etcetc. go check out tom leykis man....
Interesting that no one has told kaiotes off for this ugly stereotyping of women.
Auream
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Dec. 24, 2006 @ 7:11p
mhesidence said: Interesting that no one has told kaiotes off for this ugly stereotyping of women.
Because for MOST women (not they type that read FWF) it's true?
jrsmooth
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Dec. 24, 2006 @ 10:43p
I just turned 29, currently half way to two master degrees (MS technology management and MBA), making just a little bit over $100K a year, saving account about $200K, still living with my parents now.
I graduated in 2003 (away from home), worked for a year (actually started working full time furing senior year), moved back to my parents' for a job nearby, started my grad school two years later, and now I am half way to my MS degrees.
Social life? I can really use some help that how I can have an active one when I work full time, and working on two MS part time.
jrsmooth
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Dec. 24, 2006 @ 10:46p
caonima said: ...live at home if you have family value...
NDogg said: IMO, your living at home is not the cause of making you feel like a child nor is it something that I would be totally embarrassed about, it's the fact that you are freeloading which I find bothersome. that is the reason why you like living at home, isn't it? contribute to your household that you live in, or move out - either of these options would make you more adult-like
I always chuckle when people living at home claim they have no rent and grocery expenses. Actually there are and someone else is footing the bill.
ihad2buyit
Ancient Member
posted: Dec. 25, 2006 @ 3:44a
Op, I would move out simply to find a closer location to work. Having a tough commute just drains so much out of your morning and night. Before you know it, you'll be come dependent on your parents cooking/ cleaning just like how it was before you left for college. In the long run, the longer you stay, the harder the transition to independence it will be, with or without a girlfriend.
When I graduated, I had the option to move back home (Went to school at a neighboring city) but decided to stay with roommates as we all got jobs after graduation locally. We are all independent and get along well, you might want to try the same thing. Might next step is getting a place of my own once enough capitol is saved.
asianman5
Member
posted: Dec. 25, 2006 @ 12:55p
I am on the same boat. Just turned 23, graduated in spring 06. Went to school down in Southern CA and moved back to parents home in Northern CA. Work in S.F commuting from the East Bay. I take public transportation so it takes roughly 1.5 hours each way. I gotta admit, commuting takes a lot out of you as I'm drained just doing day to day things. I want to move out but the rent is so ridiculously high in the city, I would have to devote half my paycheck just for it. My plan is to work for at least 6 months, then find a better job; or find another job closer to home and work on my MBA. THen move out after 1 year.
anakinskywalker
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Dec. 25, 2006 @ 2:00p
packratmarty said: oh yea, only girlfriends spend all the money?
Plenty of guys are stupid with their money, buying to much car, to much TV, to many gadgets, etc
Although I think it could be disastrous for plenty of other reasons.
i think the point being made was that way too many girlfriends/wives revel in spending all their bf's/hubby's income, not just their own... like Gabrielle Solis in Desperate Housewives...
whereas guys who don't work but spend all the money their gfs/wives can earn on expensive clothes and jewellery might be hard to find LOL....
mind you, i'm not the one complaining; i'm just explaining the complaint against financially irresponsible women... personally, i like Gabrielle Solis; what's the point of earning money if there isn't somebody to make use of it ? ....
Anakin
synch22
Senior Member
posted: Dec. 25, 2006 @ 2:35p
live at home ...
my brother had that opportunity and ended up owning a rental that has doubled, and his own homw now. He lived at home until he got married at age of 27. At one point he was making 90k+ but saved and bought properties. Live your life how it can be best for you, not how it fits socially to the rest of the world. Me and my wife lived with syblings for a year while making 130+k....it was for a year but we sure did stack away plenty of cash. We did it because everything went smooth, it was ahuge home, and in the best area to live in. There was no hurry or sense of urgency. We still rent, but i keep telling myself we need to do things to WIN and sometimes it takes sacrifice. We are 27.
asnlc
Senior Member
posted: Dec. 25, 2006 @ 2:36p
I'm in a similar situation -
I graduated when I was 22 and I'm now 25 and still living at home with the folks. About 2 years ago, my parents bought a new home and I had decided to take a part in the purchase (I didn't pitch in for the downpayment, but I do pay $1k/month for part of the mortgage) - this is for a home in the Bay Area.
I don't make a ton, so it would be somewhat difficult for me to pay mortgage and shell out some more money for rent, although it is possible. I did move out briefly for a few months (found a bargain rental), but returned home after the owners decided to sell the place.
Bottom line - I do want to move out but I can't (comfortably) since I have a partial mortgage to pay. While I like the fact that my money is going towards the purchase of a home - I'm stuck living with the folks. And who knows how long we're going to keep the home for? What if I'm stuck here for the next 10 years?
Ideally, I would have liked to purchase my own home and then rent out some of the rooms. That way, I would be able to live on my own and have the rental payments offset some of the mortgage. But on the downside, I don't have enough saved up even for a downpayment...
dealove
Member
posted: Dec. 27, 2006 @ 11:58p
I don't understand why it is a big "stigma" to live with your own parents. I am not from US but I many times felt it surprising. I lived with my parents all through my undergrad and those were the best days of my life. No need to worry about cooking cleaning etc!!
And i don't understand why people are so much uptight even with their own parents regarding rent,cooking etc.
As far as OP's case, I don't see any point in moving out except for the 1.5 hr drive twice everyday!
And I think it is absolute hypocrisy to call one living with his parents by some "names" etc. You can have perfect social life with your parents. One of the reply was "pay your own rent and start being a man"!! Interesting!!
bottom line: Unless you want to bring girls and bang them rather than marrying etc(which is generally the actual reason behind people telling "you should be separate once you are 18") living at your parent's should be perfectly alright.
AllAboutTheMusic
Senior Member
posted: Dec. 28, 2006 @ 12:25a
As long as you're not ready to get married or have a serious love life, and your parents enjoy having you there, stay!
But, as others have said, even if your parents are financially secure, consider making some sort of payment. Take care of the electric, water, and phone bills. Or do a grocery shop once a week. SOMEthing, so that you are a contributing member of the household.
23 and unattached -- NOW is the time to make the big bucks. Get your MBA, take the second job, and start investing. Without the worry of the yard, whether you have toilet paper or coffee, home maintenance, etc. Sounds like you have it made!
asianman5
Member
posted: Dec. 28, 2006 @ 12:42a
MySilverEX00 said: I'm 23, graduated Spring 06, moved back home, and started working in September 06. It's cool to see our products making the hot deals here. You guys sure take advantage of some of the deals from our retailers. I see the bills from them and it can be
I work in Orange County, CA and drive about 35 miles one way. Because of traffic it takes me 1.5 hour each way. Most of the employees at the company I am working for are a lot older than me, so they are living on their own. Even though I have a professional job, I feel like a child since I don't live on my own. I feel kind of embarass to tell people that, and it doesn't help when trying to meet a potential date.
just curious OP, where do you work?
Namshik
Senior Member
posted: Dec. 28, 2006 @ 1:21a
i graduated summer of 2005. i do consulting so i travel from time to time. in any case, i suggest you live at home for a year and save enough money for a downpayment on a place. that's what i did. just purchased my condo and waiting for escrow to close.
gluck
MySilverEX00
Member
posted: Dec. 29, 2006 @ 3:47p
just curious OP, where do you work?
computer/memory industry
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sheelshah
Thrifty Member
posted: Jan. 2, 2007 @ 2:02p
jopher34 said:
Cut the commute (mine is 15-20 minutes) and get better hours if possible. Keeping the weekends/nights open is a must if you want to do stuff. Q]
Cut the commute...see if you can find another job that is closer... </blockquote>
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