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The real question: how many cards can I register with the phone company, pay the bill in $1.99 chunks across a couple dozen cards...


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re: phone bill payment

AT&T has a $5 minimum, and limits on number of payments. I don't know about other phone companies / utilities.


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8086x6 said:The real question: how many cards can I register with the phone company, pay the bill in $1.99 chunks across a couple dozen cards...

I had this silly thought run across my brain as I was trying to find something useful that would cost a total of 1.99. The thought was 'hey, these issuers do take payments! I could charge something for say 2.99 and send them $1 before the statement cycles!'

Does anyone know where I can get a life FAR?


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Does anyone know where I can get a life FAR?

Says the monkey making fun of people in an internet forum.

Feel free not to post if this is beneath you.


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Umm, I was making fun of myself. That really was my thinking when i was out shopping this afternoon. BTW since it's a low balance credit charging as much as you like and paying the balance down to 1.99 should work.

I'm starting to think you're not a really nice man after all.


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all cards issued by chase cancels at 1.99 or less.
u can make charge of say 5.00, make bill payment of 3.01.
just need to make sure the final amount at the close is 1.99 or less


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Economist said:Well, assume you are paying a utility bill online, and it takes about 20 seconds to do a single payment. In half an hour of work you'd be able to make around $200, which is $400/hour. Seems a pretty decent use of one's time.

As far as using credit, what if your limits are only 300-500 on each of the cards? Carrying $50k 0% bt (100% utilization) would net $2500 per year at 5%, but of course how many card accounts you'd have after going 100% utilization overall and on every single card is an interesting question From small balance cancellation you'd net $2400, and will show 0% utilization at all times, which means you credit score would be much higher.

BrianGa said:highmktgoods said:Well I was just thinking that if I had 100 of those kinda cards...i would find a better use of my time/credit.


I think you're on to something here.... I can see it now: The next best thing to an App-O-Rama, OR, what to do with the cards when you're finished with AOR!!


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Please excuse the redundancy, but let me see if I get this right...

I short pay my balance on my CC before the cycle date ends so that the CC company decides to write off the token remaining balance to avoid a print during the run of their statement routine for mailing...

Incredible...so if you have several credit cards you can bank some bucks...just incredible...

Is anybody publishing a short pay list and keeping it updated here?

Michael B.

Late edit: I found a list in post#2 of this thread...


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ElectricSavant said:I short pay my balance on my CC before the cycle date ends so that the CC company decides to write off the token remaining balance to avoid a print during the run of their statement routine for mailing...The thing is - you will still get a statement in mail

Any month that you make a purchase, the cc issuer needs to mail out a statement regardless what the statement balance is. So I don't quite get why they do it, but I don't complain


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Wow, I've never thought or tried this. Now I'm going to, with my 3 Chase cards (Freedom, Sony, Cash Plus) I'll try less than $1.99 at the pump. If it does work like others report, that's $5.97/month, or $71.64 per year, pretty good!

But you have to be a good gas pumper....the other day I was trying to zero out my AMEX card with a 50 cent credit and pumped 51 cents, I was so frustrated. Reminds me of that AMEX Seinfeld commercial a while back when he pumps exactly $10, ha.

Also will try $.99 with my USAA MC.

Thanks for the reports ChrisV.

Anyone try yet with FIA card services?


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Chase billed at $2.00

Etrade billed at $1.97


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kwg said:Another Sears MC datapoint....

Charged $6.xx
Before statement date, bank billpay $1.xx
Sears statement: $5.00 credit adjustment, $0 balance


nice! I might consider getting a Sears card in my next AOR for this "feature"


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Sears MC is Citibank, I thought Citi wasn't forgiving small balances. I'd want to see another data point or three before I'd apply.


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Charles Schwab $.14 (accidentally did this when winding down a 1.9% BT deal) waived.


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My main reason for using occasional sub $2 charges springs from tremendous fear of sudden accounts closures for “inactivity”. Losing a $25K or a $30K account that’s helping utilization but is staying at 0 balance and mingling with socks could be devastating to some.

My main question is if the Chases, Discovers et al forgive these teeny charges, will they still COUNT them as activity? In other words, will a dismissed $1.47 charge convince these forgiving banks my account is no longer dormant, I’ve mobilized it and they shouldn’t close it, for I’ve charged a coupla bucks within a year?

By the way, Discover keeps refusing to bill anything sub $2, at least in my experience.

Sorry if this question been asked, it’s a long thread and I haven’t parsed. Thanks.


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Fifth Third billed at $1.96


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To clear up something...that I keep forgetting while contemplating this...

This is all done WITHIN the cycle...so if they decide to bill you and not write it off...don't worry...your not going to get slapped with max cycle interest, just pay the bill in time...

For those of you calculating with float....perhaps large balances would not be cost effective to short pay...as the loss of some days of interest would be the cost to pay earlier than you usually do. (I have not really counted daily interest, but my spreadsheet will include a column for this)

The inactivity question by using small charges...well that is another thing...but the preferred method might be just to short pay a larger balance...but not too large of a balance...if there is only one transaction..perhaps there would not be a trigger...but two or three transactions added up to one number then you short pay it..might solve the problem...I really do not know...

I was thinking of that guy that has nearly 2 million of business loc's and keeps his personal lines clear to use them for getting the business lines...he could use this method for extra income if he could figure out how to fill his car up with multiple cards twice...he would gain no inactivity closures and get a chance to short pay for extra income...

hmm...lets see...My car holds about 17 gallons and I fill up only three times a month...hmmm...maybe 16 cards three times at $2.50 EACH...ok...utility bills!

Michael B.


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Wow, you can get a free hamburger each month.


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Or pair it up with the Biz LOC strategy...


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Boxcutter said:Wow, you can get a free hamburger each month.


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saviola said:My main reason for using occasional sub $2 charges springs from tremendous fear of sudden accounts closures for “inactivity”. Losing a $25K or a $30K account that’s helping utilization but is staying at 0 balance and mingling with socks could be devastating to some.

My main question is if the Chases, Discovers et al forgive these teeny charges, will they still COUNT them as activity? In other words, will a dismissed $1.47 charge convince these forgiving banks my account is no longer dormant, I’ve mobilized it and they shouldn’t close it, for I’ve charged a coupla bucks within a year?

By the way, Discover keeps refusing to bill anything sub $2, at least in my experience.

Sorry if this question been asked, it’s a long thread and I haven’t parsed. Thanks.


My guess is that this does count as activity, although I don't have any hard evidence to support it. I have about 7 cards that sit in my sock drawer; I take them out once a year and make a small purchase ($5-$10) to prevent closure from inactivity or rebates expiring. Also can help with reward programs, such as Delta Skymiles. I spend $10 on my AMEX, earn 5 skymiles, extend the life of my exiting miles. (at least I think this counts, not sure) Also I was just told by a Citi CSR yesterday that DE Rebates expire if there is no activity on the card for 12 months. another good reason to make an occasional purchase.


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