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Ebank
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SleepyNyte
- Tired Member
posted: Jan. 13, 2007 @ 1:42a
g10ny said:The check card worked perfectly in Europe for me, no fees indeed. Also I am afraid I am exasperating them with my frequent small withdrawals for which they refund me $2 each time. And yes, the refund is not separately posted, already the posted withdrawal is fee-free. So it's better than the USAA checking refund schedule (which is now defunct unless you are or recently were in the Army). A good tip (thanks, Craig!) if you want to set up your own PIN, is to assign it before they send your card in the mail. Preferably about the time when you're dealing with the signature specimen letter. They send you a bunch of free checks, I have no idea when I'll be able to use them all up.
IMO, this is the best no-promo checking account offer out there (the only potential turn-offs are the $2.5K min bal for making it free and the absence of ACH). But since I plan to stick with my local BOA NEA account (and I am still pondering whether to jump on the Lockheed 6% deal), not needing more than a few hundred $ into the free ATM account, I'm not going for it.
Edit: One more thing: I had no problems in depositing a Cap1 purchase check. Not sure about BT checks, though.
When did you sign up for an account with ebank? I would open an account now if there isn't a hard pull. |
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Donedealzz
- Senior Member - 2K
posted: Jan. 13, 2007 @ 9:39a
It says right on the first page of the blog that they do a hard pull from Equifax. See OP. |
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wlau
- Senior Member
posted: Jan. 14, 2007 @ 3:05a
I have a checking account with eBank for over a year and I love it. The free ATM fee is great. I business travel a lot, so I don't bring much cash with me and withdraw when needed. When the withdraw is posted to the account, only the cash amount is posted, not the surcharge, so it's as though the surcharge from the ATM owner was never charged. I've used it all over the country and never had a problem. This is small bank with one branch in Atlanta, GA. I direct deposit my paycheck to this account and use the Star ATM shared deposit network to deposit some rebate checks every now and then. Overall, I am very satisfied with this bank. |
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montee4
- Senior Member
posted: Jan. 15, 2007 @ 1:42p
wlau said:I have a checking account with eBank for over a year and I love it. The free ATM fee is great. I business travel a lot, so I don't bring much cash with me and withdraw when needed. When the withdraw is posted to the account, only the cash amount is posted, not the surcharge, so it's as though the surcharge from the ATM owner was never charged. I've used it all over the country and never had a problem. This is small bank with one branch in Atlanta, GA. I direct deposit my paycheck to this account and use the Star ATM shared deposit network to deposit some rebate checks every now and then. Overall, I am very satisfied with this bank.
Are there any fees to deposit using the Star ATM shared deposit network? Or is that a fetaure that is paid for by ebank? |
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thecpa
- Member
posted: Jan. 15, 2007 @ 2:59p
This bank will likely discontinue this offer:
Banks that offer high rates on checking accounts offer higher rates on their savings accounts, this bank doesn't.
They're a small one branch bank. When their rate is posted on Bankrate.com, they will get bombarded with deposits since bankrate lists their rates in all major newspapers. The same thing happened to Security Savings in Las Vegas which had a 5.50% savings account until it was posted in bankrate.com.
They offer unlimited ATM withdrawal fees. Realistically, how long do you think a small bank will be able to do this?
They discontinued the free overnight deposit method offered in the past. |
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craig10x
- Senior Member - 3K
posted: Jan. 15, 2007 @ 4:24p
thecpa said:This bank will likely discontinue this offer:
Banks that offer high rates on checking accounts offer higher rates on their savings accounts, this bank doesn't.
They're a small one branch bank. When their rate is posted on Bankrate.com, they will get bombarded with deposits since bankrate lists their rates in all major newspapers. The same thing happened to Security Savings in Las Vegas which had a 5.50% savings account until it was posted in bankrate.com.
They offer unlimited ATM withdrawal fees. Realistically, how long do you think a small bank will be able to do this?
They discontinued the free overnight deposit method offered in the past.
As a current EBank customer (who has been with them well over a year) i would say this:
1)They didn't discontinue the free overnight deposit method (UPS QUICKPOST) in fact, they loved having it for their customers, the problem is that the owner of the processing company for it, Netbank is having financial trouble and decided to dump the operation, so it wasn't EBank's fault, it was Netbanks (this why you can't do it at USAA anymore either)...
2) They have had the Unlimited ATM Rebates, since even before i got my accounts with them....it's unlikely they will drop the policy as it does encourage people all over the US to open accounts with them, and as a small bank, they need that....
3) They offer good rates on Savings, not top yield....i get 3% apy in my ESavings...and even my Efree Checking gets 2.25% which is better then alot of bricks and mortar banks
4) They say they plan to keep the rate competitive and that is is not a promotional rate....but on that one, i can't give you a "guarantee" (lol) that it won't change in the future, but then what bank does??? |
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01LX
- Cranky Member
posted: Jan. 15, 2007 @ 5:00p
What is meant by "Free ebank custom checks"? How are these different from traditional checks? |
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craig10x
- Senior Member - 3K
posted: Jan. 15, 2007 @ 7:18p
01LX said:What is meant by "Free ebank custom checks"? How are these different from traditional checks?
That's just referring to the style (design) of the checks...there is a particular style that they order for free sets, if you want other designs you have to pay for them....On my EFree checking, only the first set is free, which i have gotten and it happens to be a nice design...With EPremium checking, you can get all the free checks you want (of that one style that they offer).... |
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Xeon852
- Senior Member - 1K
posted: Jan. 15, 2007 @ 7:50p
thecpa said:This bank will likely discontinue this offer:
Banks that offer high rates on checking accounts offer higher rates on their savings accounts, this bank doesn't.
They're a small one branch bank. When their rate is posted on Bankrate.com, they will get bombarded with deposits since bankrate lists their rates in all major newspapers. The same thing happened to Security Savings in Las Vegas which had a 5.50% savings account until it was posted in bankrate.com.
They offer unlimited ATM withdrawal fees. Realistically, how long do you think a small bank will be able to do this?
They discontinued the free overnight deposit method offered in the past. Lets ignore the bank size fact - no bank is going to offer something that doesn't make them money in the end on average, big or small.
Other than the fact that this is checking and not money market - how is this any different than what GMAC offers? Other than the fact that it doesn't match the way banks traditionally work and the additional cost to process multiple transactions, does it really cost a bank much more for a checking account than a moneymarket account?
Presidential offers a pretty close rate (only off by 0.5%), and plenty of other banks offer ATM refunds. Although most banks don't do unlimited, I bet they still only average $2-4/mo per customer. Everbank imits me to $6 I think, but I've never used more than $4 and usually do like $1. |
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craig10x
- Senior Member - 3K
posted: Jan. 15, 2007 @ 7:58p
have to go along with xeon..."unlimited rebates" is a nice "feel good" kind of policy...it's nice to know you are not limited to a specific number of them, but practically speaking...unless you are a bit "mentally unbalanced" (lol) will you be running to the atms to make withdrawals 30x per month just because you know you have unlimited rebates? Of course not....I think the most i ever did in 1 month was about 8 (2 per week) and average more like 4-6 per month most of the time.... |
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thecpa
- Member
posted: Jan. 16, 2007 @ 4:24a
Xeon852 said:
Other than the fact that this is checking and not money market - how is this any different than what GMAC offers? Other than the fact that it doesn't match the way banks traditionally work and the additional cost to process multiple transactions, does it really cost a bank much more for a checking account than a moneymarket account?
Presidential offers a pretty close rate (only off by 0.5%), and plenty of other banks offer ATM refunds. Although most banks don't do unlimited, I bet they still only average $2-4/mo per customer. Everbank imits me to $6 I think, but I've never used more than $4 and usually do like $1.
GMAC has a six transaction limit, doesn't give unlimited checks, safety deposit boxes, unlimited atm refunds and bill pay service all for free.
Presidential: dito. |
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Xeon852
- Senior Member - 1K
posted: Jan. 16, 2007 @ 7:30a
thecpa said:Xeon852 said:
Other than the fact that this is checking and not money market - how is this any different than what GMAC offers? Other than the fact that it doesn't match the way banks traditionally work and the additional cost to process multiple transactions, does it really cost a bank much more for a checking account than a moneymarket account?
Presidential offers a pretty close rate (only off by 0.5%), and plenty of other banks offer ATM refunds. Although most banks don't do unlimited, I bet they still only average $2-4/mo per customer. Everbank imits me to $6 I think, but I've never used more than $4 and usually do like $1.
GMAC has a six transaction limit, doesn't give unlimited checks, safety deposit boxes, unlimited atm refunds and bill pay service all for free.
Presidential: dito. Both give you free checks to start - and GMAC a nearly full box that I will never make it through. GMAC gives you 4 ATM refunds for month - which should be all most people need. Both of these are things that "sound" like great bonuses but the truth is most people will take a few years to go through their first box of checks, and few will do more than ~$5 of rebates a month.
Presidential gives you free billpay service.
Their minimum balances are significantly lower, $500 and $1000 respectfully.
Since you said it will be all internet users, what does a saftey deposit box matter? Also, no one has quantified what transactions actually cost a bank. Are most money market savings accounts savings accounts because that is the traditional way it is done in banking, or is there a significant (like $1 or more) cost per transaction?
It does look like a very good checking account, but its not so far beyond other products on the market that I would label it as "too good to be true" yet. |
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sjb
- Member
posted: Jan. 16, 2007 @ 10:23a
thecpa: I agree with you. xeon: I agree with you!
I think the only real advantage of having a checking account paying 5% is 1) the advantage of having more than six withdrawals per month (and with numerous automatic investment plans in place, plus 1-2 ATM visits and the same number of checks, I do end up making more than six) and 2) the lessened need for transferring money to E-Loan or wherever else to snag the extra percent. |
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ToHellWithUGA
- Tired Member
posted: Jan. 16, 2007 @ 10:51a
This seems to be a good deal for us, since we are relatively close to their B&M location (~45 minutes away). We've been banking online for around 10 years, and only had something that we needed a B&M for once, but who knows in the future.
As has been mentioned, I just worry about how long the high rate will last. Plus, my wife pays most of the bills, and she hates it when I talk about changing banks.
Was considering a credit card AOR soon, so if we were thinking about opening an account here, I guess we should submit the application the same day as the AOR, right? |
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frootmall
- Senior Member - 1K
posted: Jan. 16, 2007 @ 1:44p
Xeon852 said:Also, no one has quantified what transactions actually cost a bank. Are most money market savings accounts savings accounts because that is the traditional way it is done in banking, or is there a significant (like $1 or more) cost per transaction? Currently, a checking account has an up to 10% reserve requirement, a money market account has a 0% reserve requirement. That means if you deposit $1 into a money market account, the bank can lend out $1 to a borrower. If you deposit $1 into a checking account, the bank can lend out 90 cents to a borrower and must keep the remaining 10 cents in non-interest bearing reserves. |
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thecpa
- Member
posted: Jan. 19, 2007 @ 4:16a
althes said:Any idea which CRA they pull.
Equifax |
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thecpa
- Member
posted: Jan. 19, 2007 @ 4:34a
The folks at this bank are generally nice except for the lady that handles signing up new accounts. She practically bit my head off when I called to inquire on the status having sent in the application last week. The wiring instructions I received over the phone were wrong. The email received had the correct wiring instructions. You wire EBank though an intermediary bank called Bankers Bank, they have no ACH access. I was uneasy about the process so I called Bankers and verified. The website needs alot of work but it does the very basic functions. One important thing to note, not only did the rep tell me "the 5% rate is not a teaser rate, it's the current PROMO we have going on right now", she contradicted herself. In addition to that, when I log into the account it shows the current interest rate at 2.95%. I'm going to have to call them again to get it corrected. Finally, I've received two emails from them with attachments. I can't get them to open on two computers. Another email stated to click on a link within the email to electronically sign but that didn't work either. I'm getting tired of this bank really fast. With a name like EBank, one would think they're geared up to do business on the internet, nothing could be farther from the truth! |
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craig10x
- Senior Member - 3K
posted: Jan. 20, 2007 @ 4:04p
It looks very likely that the 5% rate will not be a long term thing with Ebank....They revised their rates page and it is being called an "active promotion rate" and shows that the normal "post promotion rate" for EPremium Checking (which is what this is) is 3% APY.....So, i suspect that they will give this rate for a few months, and then drop it back to their normal rate of 3%....Apparently, despite what the csrs there told me, they are not planning on keeping this competitive with the highest yielding accounts, but rather are just looking to grab in more depositors....
Sorry to have to report the bad news about this....i have been with ebank for awhile and did like them alot....but i was mostly using them for the atm surcharge rebates...now that i found a good credit union that is on the allpoint and co-op networks, i feel that i have enough extra free atm coverage (besides all my BOA branch/atm access) to let them go...i will be closing my accounts with them shortly.... |
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ToHellWithUGA
- Tired Member
posted: Jan. 20, 2007 @ 11:15p
Thanks for the updates guys, glad I waited on this one. |
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g10ny
- Graceful Member
posted: Jan. 21, 2007 @ 1:32a
I suspect that they've run the numbers on the 2.25% APY checking accounts and saw that, while they pay for ATM surcharges, are still getting a low deposit flow (I only have currently about $130 in the account).
And thought that, while they're at it, why not give a promo with a higher min bal, for roughly the same costs? |
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