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Combined BOFA effectiva with regular BOFA card. the effectiva card 0% ran out and they changed the fee structure where there was previously no BT fee,. they now charge 4%.

effectiva card only 6 months old, regular bofa card 18 months. was able to move the full line of 13,000 to the bof line of 5000 for a combined 18,000 line. It may eventually hurt my average age of accounts, but it will help my average CL.

Also will try to dispute the closed card as a duplicate card in a week to have in completly removed. THis worked with a couple of chase cards previously.

updated QS


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Have been unable to get any bumpage off of Equifax since they wiped out over 100 soft pulls.
However, my credit score is shaping up. I plan on doing my App-o-rama either this upcoming weekend or the weekend after, It will depend on when my balances all get updated. I have 5 TU, 3 EXPerian and 2 Equifax balances that need to update. I expect it to mive my score up about 15 more points on TU and EQ. I have no idea about experian as that one does not seem to repsond at all to all the changes made.

I plan on this apporama to be heavily business based. I aslo am planning on trying to get the creitors that use TU for the most part. From prior experiance, that will include citi, chase and juniper.

Discover pulled experian and AMEX pulls Equifax.
Will use cardoffers as well as other FW threads that have bonus offers, such as the citibank thread.

Also trying to convert my BOFA card from a standard worldpoints card to a fidelity signature card. I have a $65K cl with them and some creditors are spooked by the amount of credit that I have available. The fidelity card does not report balances and will have my avail credit down to a more reasonable level.

I currently have an overall utilization rate of 22%, this does not include business cards or cards that dont report CL. although overall utilizatoin is low I do have some relatively high utilization cards. 3 80>%-<90%, and 1 over 70%. most of the rest are at 0% or under 35% utilization.


Updated QS with FICO scores


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Keeping a close watch on my scores, I have one large balance that hasn't been updated by AMEX yet. If its updated this weekend I will begin the AOR if my score goes up.


I will be applying for cards that due one of 2 things, good 0% offer with no or low BT fee. Or a card with a good signup bonus and reward.

Here are the cards I am planning on applying for. If anyone knows of any other cards that offer 0% BT's with low or no fee, reply on here. My goal is not to accumulate credit lines as I already have over 400K in CL. but to get and utilize BT's/ I have not had much luck finding many Business cads with 0% BT's. will be using cardoffers to get the cash rewards from them as well.

simplicity business
Chase Business Rebate Visa
Citibusiness card
Chase Business Cash Rewards
Starwood Business
FNB
GE money visa
Gmac EQUITY REWARDS(ofa)
Juniper I fly america
Citi drivers edge-card offers
AMEX in-nyc
PNC
RBS
Good Neighbor Credit Card state farm
compass bank
discover gas


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I would seriously reconsider FNB Omaha -- many of us have had adverse actions regarding this card. In my case I was approved for a $15K credit line, and then had the card immediately closed by issuer for too many inquiries. See the adverse action thread for more information.

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Also, consider Discover Miles (there used to be a cardoffer bonus) -- you can earn 1,000 miles per month with a minimum purchase.

PNC has a business card as well as a personal card.


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What about Discover Business with purchase checks? Do they report on personal report?


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discover business doesn't have a 0% BT. I read the puchase checks and they have this in their T&C

If you use a PurchaseCheck to purchase or lease goods or services from a merchant, and you provide the merchant address in the space indicated on the check, the transaction will qualify as a purchase under the Cardmember Agreement. Any other use, including payments for rent, other loans, or payroll, or payments to a financial institution, will be treated as a cash advance, subject to the cash advance APR and Cash Advance Transaction Fee. A checkbox is provided on the check for you to indicate that the check qualifies as a merchant purchase. False statements made in connection with the use of PurchaseChecks may constitute a federal crime (18 USC § 1014). Qualified merchant purchases will accrue a fixed CashBack Bonus of .25% (.0025) of the amount of the purchases, and will be included in the total amount of purchases made during the anniversary year to determine the applicable percentage rate for your Purchase CashBack Bonus.

I may skip FNB altogether. FOr PNC has anyone gotten both personal and business at the same AOR or rejected for only 1 app allowed


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I agree with MAP174 regarding FNB. It appears that they don't like AORs and have denied or cancelled just based on the number of inquiries.


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nymgiants said:I may skip FNB altogether. FOr PNC has anyone gotten both personal and business at the same AOR or rejected for only 1 app allowed
I've gotten both personal and business PNC cards at the same time.


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I am interested in your results as I am considering a business apporama. I have not done an exclusive biz apporama ever and I think it makes sense for me. Trying to kill a few bt offer balances and knock a few inquiries.

Rob


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map174 said:I would seriously reconsider FNB Omaha -- many of us have had adverse actions regarding this card.
Green for the link; everyone should recogize the apparent pitfalls of that card. Still, here's an open question: would you be willing to add a "closed by issuer" to your credit report for $500? I'll take it.

(In case I'm being too obscure: roughly $10K BT @ 5% interest, or $10,500 @ 5.25% or higher though probably not for a full 12 months, and ignoring the declining balance, less $75 BT fee, plus $20 sign-up and usage credits.)


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cardjuggler said:map174 said:I would seriously reconsider FNB Omaha -- many of us have had adverse actions regarding this card.
Green for the link; everyone should recogize the apparent pitfalls of that card. Still, here's an open question: would you be willing to add a "closed by issuer" to your credit report for $500? I'll take it.

(In case I'm being too obscure: roughly $10K BT @ 5% interest, or $10,500 @ 5.25% or higher though probably not for a full 12 months, and ignoring the declining balance, less $75 BT fee, plus $20 sign-up and usage credits.)


good point. if I apply and get the 0% Bt, if they close the account no big deal. Also I have found closed by issuer is not scored negatively unless there was late payments etc. If someone manually looks at the report it may pose some questions, but I have one listed as closed by grantor that FUSA did when they were giving points for BT's and I racked up about $5000 worth of points, they decided to closed my account. It did not ahve an effect on my score


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WHile I'm almost certain that 'closed by grantor' is a non issue if the account is 'paid as agreed' and the balance is 0, I'm not so certian that the CBG note on an account with a balance is going to be rated the same. But I'm going to find out, since my wife's FNBofO tradeline fits that description. The BT is for 15 months on this card, not 12.


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If you decide to go for the FNB Omaha card, make sure you request a BT below 11K -- I wouldn't have minded the closed card if I had gotten the funds first!


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All but one of my cards in TU have been updated on my Credit reports. Unfortunatly the one not updated is a new account that incorrectly shows 100% utilization when it should be 0%. Unfortunatly I tried to dispute but this was recently updated from a prior dispute with an incorrect credit limit and I can not do so online. I will call TU tomorrow to dispute.

I will begin applying apporama part 2 either saturday or sunday with the cards listed in the QS. I may make a change or 2 beforehand. and I will be doing them in order of which card I most want in case the declines for too many inquiries start coming in


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Started 2nd go round today. does not look promising. here are the cards I applied for


Personal

FNB
GE money visa
Gmac EQUITY REWARDS(bofa)
Juniper I fly america
Citi drivers edge-card offers
AMEX innyc
PNC
RBS
Good Neighbor Credit Card state farm
discover miles
countrywide

Business
Starwood
simplicity
Chase Business Card with Premier Cash Rebate
Citibusiness card-if drivers edge auto approved yes
Chase Business Cash Rewards
PNC
advanta
AMEX Gold

will update status terms etc.. once more info comes in but out of these 19 cards 2 approved 1 pnc(3000) and AMEX in-nyc(2000), 1 decline discover miles, the rest deferred.


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approved for the last card I applied for AMEX gold charge card (25,000 points with first purchase). this makes 3 approved 1 decline the rest deferred.

I also can no longer pull my 3 in 1 report because my Equifax report got too big and now causes an error. Called Equifax and they are going to "TRIM" the report. They said it will take a day or 2.
Before that I was able to tell that 5 inquiries were done by experian, and 4 by TU.

I will break down each once I get access back to the credit reports

I Also got an email from advanta stating that normally i can only have one card but they will be happy to review the benfits to get me what best fits my need. Has anyone else received a 2nd card or called after getting this message to try to get another card?


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nymgiants said:Tried to access Equifax via the credit watch gold that I had signed up for. Got an error message. I called Equifax and was told that my report was full and they can not retrieve the report and that there is nothing they can do, so i cancelled the service despite them first trying to tell me I can't.It seems my Equifax file was too long and TrueCredit also got locked up, the only way to correct was for Equifax to "trim" the report, which the representative told me was an automated process.Yesterday I called and told the rep that I cannot access the report and told her that 3 of the hard inquiries should not be there. She told me should would take care of it.

Today I was able to pull up the report and the 3 Hard inquiries are still there. However, when i compared this report to the one I was prviously able to pull. more than 100 Soft inquiries were removed. This puts a big dent in the attempt for bumpage, as it is going to take 2-3 months before I can get back to the level where the hard inquiries will be bumped.
This is commonly referred to as "choppage" over at CreditBoards and is a well documented problem over there when you use Equifax Credit Watch Gold.


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Question on the PNC biz card...it didnt look like you can apply for that one with just a SS#...how did you apply?

I also just did an AOR and got all deferrals...as the results start coming in, I havent had any declines...I have 40 or so credit accounts so it must be a lot harder to get instant approval as the numbers increase...My citi PP card called and only giving me 2k limit since I have so many accounts with citi...


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maddybeagle said:Question on the PNC biz card...it didnt look like you can apply for that one with just a SS#...how did you apply?

I also just did an AOR and got all deferrals...as the results start coming in, I havent had any declines...I have 40 or so credit accounts so it must be a lot harder to get instant approval as the numbers increase...My citi PP card called and only giving me 2k limit since I have so many accounts with citi...


I used my ss# for pnc, but that one is deferred so we'll see. I have 24 open showing before aor-2, not counting my biz cards, which may explain the low cl so far


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A sole proprieter is allowed to use SSN as his business tax id. Foolish to do so, but legal.


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