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cardjuggler
- Senior Member
posted: Jan. 25, 2007 @ 10:52p
Isifhan said:I wasn't planning on BTing any of the Business cards as I wanted to use those to boost my overall credit and help towards utilization. However, if the CC companies wouldn't count those as a part of my overall credit utilization when looking at the 50/70 rule then I would probably re-evaluate. The whole point of bus. cards (for an AOR) is that they don't appear on your personal credit report! So, they're useful for "hiding" a BALANCE, and worthless for lowering utilization.
Also, AFAIK, CitiProfessional is "mostly" a personal card, i.e. I think it shows on your personal credit report. But there's some chance it doesn't count towards the "2 Citi apps" limit (that most but not all have hit; noting that some co-branded cards may also fall outside that). |
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Isifhan
- Member
posted: Jan. 26, 2007 @ 10:10a
tashayar said:
1. Just checked card offers and if you click on the link for Citi Prof, then click "back" you will get a popup (make sure you have enabled popups) for an offer with 15,000 ty pts and still the $40 through cardoffers.
Tried that and I get an error message (can't display page) when I hit apply. Hopefully this will resolve itself soon. Thanks for the heads up on the Charles Schwab, the AMEX Gold and the nano link, will forgo the tiger direct as it does seem like too many people are having issues.
As far as the business cards go I didn't realize that they don't help with your overall utilizaiton I just knew that they don't count against your personal credit...I guess they go hand in hand though. I may have to re-evaluate which business cards I apply for then as some of them had uncapped BT's and were not 0% I was just going for the rewards. Ok, well thanks again guys. |
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tashayar
- Senior Member - 4K
posted: Jan. 28, 2007 @ 6:48p
Isifhan said:
Tried that and I get an error message (can't display page) when I hit apply. Hopefully this will resolve itself soon. Thanks for the heads up on the Charles Schwab, the AMEX Gold and the nano link, will forgo the tiger direct as it does seem like too many people are having issues.
Just tried clicking on the popup to apply and it directed me here.
Don't use that link or you wont get the cardoffers bonus but it does appear to be working now. Just told a friend about it. |
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Isifhan
- Member
posted: Feb. 2, 2007 @ 9:18p
Just had a strange/disconcerting experience, didn't think it waranted another thread though. Received a hard pull on my credit from what I thought was my HSBC savings account application yesterday. I was kind of peeved b/c I didn't think there would be a hard pull, but I didn't think any more of it.
Log into my yodlee account and find a new chase credit card that wasn't there before...hmm, go to my chase account and sure enough there was a Chase card opened with a 5k limit. Well, I certainly didn't open it up especially with this AOR coming up.
It turns out that HSBC did not do a hard pull (pull was listed as First USA bank) to open the account, so more than likely it was due to this new credit card that I never signed up for.
So I closed the new credit card but am wondering if/how much this will impact my AOR in any way. I'm still quite confused on how a card that I never applied for would appear on my account. |
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taxmantoo
- Ancient Member
posted: Feb. 2, 2007 @ 10:54p
Isifhan said: Log into my yodlee account and find a new chase credit card that wasn't there before...hmm, go to my chase account and sure enough there was a Chase card opened with a 5k limit. Well, I certainly didn't open it up especially with this AOR coming up.
The FUSA pull was indeed for a Chase card. Did you apply for the $150 Sony card statement credit last month? |
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Isifhan
- Member
posted: Feb. 2, 2007 @ 11:08p
taxmantoo said:
The FUSA pull was indeed for a Chase card. Did you apply for the $150 Sony card statement credit last month?
No. The pull was done on 1/31, same day as I opened the HSBC thus why I thought it was that at first. To my knowledge I didn't apply for any card that's why I'm perplexed and a bit worried. I talked to fraud protection at Chase and all they could tell me was that the card was applied for and sent out on 1/31. The only thing that I did in relation to my chase credit card account was apply for a CLI on my existing card from 11k to 30k which was done ~1/17. |
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WalStMonky
- Happy Member
posted: Feb. 2, 2007 @ 11:23p
You should have requested they move the 5k line to your 30k card!
Did you ask the nice CSR to what address the new card was sent? |
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Isifhan
- Member
posted: Feb. 2, 2007 @ 11:42p
WalStMonky said:You should have requested they move the 5k line to your 30k card!
Did you ask the nice CSR to what address the new card was sent?
Doh, no I did not, I was so thrown by the whole thing I didn't even think of asking where it was sent. Since I had it canceled would it be possible to call up fraud protection again and see where it was sent or is that pretty much done now? Ditto for the reallocation, they actually asked me if I wanted to do that and I said no b/c I just didn't know where the hell it came from and just wanted everything shut down heh. |
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WalStMonky
- Happy Member
posted: Feb. 3, 2007 @ 12:16a
Actually the address to where that card is headed might tell you what you need to do. If it's going somewhere you don't know you might really need those fraud alerts. If it's going to a relative's or an ex-friend's you still need to address it but I guess I think that might be something you'd want to handle differently. If it's headed to your home you'll want to verify with the USPS that a change of address order hasn't been placed on your mail. And if none of the above maybe you have a sleepwalking problem? I guess you want the fruad alert in any case.
I hope you figure it out. Chase fraud is open 24/7 if I'm not mistaken. I'm sure you won't be the last person to call back with a subsequent question...this morning. |
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PolarDude
- Senior Member - 1K
posted: Feb. 3, 2007 @ 1:41a
WalStMonky said:Actually the address to where that card is headed might tell you what you need to do. If it's going somewhere you don't know you might really need those fraud alerts. If it's going to a relative's or an ex-friend's you still need to address it but I guess I think that might be something you'd want to handle differently. If it's headed to your home you'll want to verify with the USPS that a change of address order hasn't been placed on your mail. And if none of the above maybe you have a sleepwalking problem? I guess you want the fruad alert in any case.
I hope you figure it out. Chase fraud is open 24/7 if I'm not mistaken. I'm sure you won't be the last person to call back with a subsequent question...this morning.
Maybe it was an identity theft, but he could redirect it to his house, and report the first one stolen! I wouldn't cancel it, but a fraud alert would help, although slow down instant approvals, and (does a fraud alert mean a denial at some places?) I would be very mad if it was an ID thief. He should find out where the card was sent, and check out the address. I remember seeing a website where you can post an address, and free vigilante type spies will go there and check it out for you. I can't remember what site it is though!  |
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WalStMonky
- Happy Member
posted: Feb. 3, 2007 @ 7:42a
I find it amusing that I'd keep the credit line, and you'd keep the account. I must admit my first inclination would be to get rid of that thing like it was infected garbage so can hardly blame OP as I think that's human nature. At minimum you'd have to ask Chase to reissue the account number. If it is ID theft, it seems that this AOR thing can nip it in the bud in more ways than one.
I'd really be concerned about the redirected mail. I ponder from time to time how easily one can file a change of address order with the USPS and how a clever identity thief could exploit that. Yes, online you have to use a credit card with either the new or old address but considering how darn easily one can change the billing address of an account with online access that's not that much of a protection. Paper trail you say? ID thief I counter, how likely is it that this is the first account he's stolen? Also I think you can still fill out the paper form and send it in without ID. Hopefully this isn't what happened as OP will be in for a major annoyance if those little yellow address correction labels go back to people who automatically change the address (Chase for one), not to mention all the unrelated mail he would lose. Reminds me of having my wallet stolen, my biggest concern was my driver's license. Wouldn't you know I was out of town and scheduled to fly that same day. It's a royal pain to get on a flight nowadays without proper ID. Yes, it can be done but it took almost two hours and a very thorough search before it happened. Though thankfully the search didn't have KY jelly involved. |
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Isifhan
- Member
posted: Feb. 3, 2007 @ 8:47a
Well I appreciate all the help. I called fraud protection again and they verified that it was sent to my address. I'm going to the post office to see if there was an address change placed on my residence. I dunno maybe I do have a sleep credit card ordering problem but I really don't think I applied for the cards even though all signs are pointing to the fact that I did.
I don't know how this will affect my AOR. I didn't ask them to put a fraud alert on my account because if they did that then all applications would be under review w/ my social security number and if they see an influx of applications it would raise flags, so I just asked them to close the card. I'm going to give it a few weeks and see if anything else squirly happens, which sucks b/c I wanted to do my AOR next Friday, but better to be safe than app happy. Thanks again to all who gave their advice. |
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WalStMonky
- Happy Member
posted: Feb. 3, 2007 @ 10:21a
Actually, you might consider doing your AOR sooner. Having a pile of brand new inquiries can foil an ID thief by itself. It was balance transfers in progress that foiled the id thief who attempted to hijack my wife's credit in 2001. The balances were being shown on the credit report twice as the payors had sent off to the payees, but the payees hadn't yet updated. Those were much less sophisticated times as we didn't hide the debt before requesting the transfers. I'll never forget that fellow's name either. Lonnie Mack, same as the bass player for the Doors near the end. Poor Lonnie, all those apps and no free money. Had he not tried during that particular window his efforts likely would have paid off. It really is a not often mentioned benefit of taking your credit to the limit. |
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Isifhan
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posted: Feb. 8, 2007 @ 9:34a
Well the mystery chase card appeared in my mail so I don't know maybe I applied for this somehow although I still don't think I did but with the evidence pointing to yes what can you do. Anyway the card was cancelled and torn up when I got it in the mail. So, with the identity theft issue put to bed I commenced with my App-O-Ramma. Results posted in OP. |
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grendhal
- Addicted Member
posted: Feb. 8, 2007 @ 9:51a
i second the juniper card tip. i received my highest non-business lines from them. also, i eneded up applying for the second card two weeks after my initial AOR (17 apps total) and was still approved with almost as a high a limit as the 1st juniper card i applied for during the AOR.
PolarDude said:Barclays/Juniper is one I noticed your missing, also Wamu, and there may be others. Also, since you plan to invest to get interest income, that could pass for a business if you want to try for those. People have gotten approvals with $0 business income as long as they PG it, and have decent credit. The trans union score is a FAKO, but if those accounts you have are old enough, it should be high. |
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Isifhan
- Member
posted: Feb. 8, 2007 @ 10:34a
grendhal said:i second the juniper card tip. i received my highest non-business lines from them. also, i eneded up applying for the second card two weeks after my initial AOR (17 apps total) and was still approved with almost as a high a limit as the 1st juniper card i applied for during the AOR.
Woops, missed this somehow. Noted and applied for. Updated in OP. Thanks again! |
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cardjuggler
- Senior Member
posted: Feb. 9, 2007 @ 11:18p
grendhal said:applying for the second {Juniper} card two weeks after my initial AOR (17 apps total) and was still approved with almost as a high a limit as the 1st juniper card i applied for during the AOR. Great tip! I had forgotten that no time period was mentioned on my "2 at once" rejection. They reject the second "while your initial application is pending" but go on to say "Please feel free to apply again once we have responded to your initial application." I guess I should have done so! |
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Isifhan
- Member
posted: Feb. 15, 2007 @ 6:53p
Well I'm starting to get cards in as well as denial letters. I was denied all three of my Chase cards which was somewhat surprising. I did however learn, I have a chase checking account with $2,000 "overdraft" protection which Chase counts as a credit card surprisingly enough. When I called customer service they sighted the fact that I have $32k worth of exposure with them.
So it looks like that in combination with the mystery card put a halt to further credit with Chase at this time which is bad as I don't have a 0% Chase card currently. So I have $30k of credit sitting on an unusable card which is annoying. |
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little4ce
- Senior Member
posted: Feb. 27, 2007 @ 7:30p
Why do I get the feeling that this was a bit of unthought aor? Did you find your credit scores before applying? Did you look to see how many and where hit the credit inquiries, have you heard of B? Did you call CA about the inq?
Can you post some results with the actual transfers?
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Isifhan
- Member
posted: Feb. 27, 2007 @ 7:57p
little4ce said:Why do I get the feeling that this was a bit of unthought aor? Did you find your credit scores before applying? Did you look to see how many and where hit the credit inquiries, have you heard of B? Did you call CA about the inq?
Can you post some results with the actual transfers?
Not sure why you think this. If you read the post credit scores are one of the first things listed. I had one credit hit in 2005, then a mystery credit card which I didn't believe I applied for from Chase were the only two credit inquries prior to the AOR. Also the credit hits I listed further down the post. Not sure if you read it all the way through but you may want to re-read. Have I heard of B? Not sure what you mean. As of yet I haven't transfered any money as (again if you read through the post) I wanted to complete the initial purchases for rewards, pay them off then proceed with the BT's. |
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