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damn it, this ignore thing only works in modern view. there, fixed it.


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psychtobe said:damn it, this ignore thing only works in modern view. there, fixed it.

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ifyouhavetoask said:Dow 2,500 is a certainty. Should happen right about the time $2,500 gold arrives
Preserved for kamalktk to add to his list.


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psychtobe said:damn it, this ignore thing only works in modern view. there, fixed it.
It's a plot to get people to go modern. But I don't see why people ignore IYHTA, the comic value alone is worth it.


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kamalktk said:psychtobe said:damn it, this ignore thing only works in modern view. there, fixed it.
It's a plot to get people to go modern. But I don't see why people ignore IYHTA, the comic value alone is worth it.

I have mixed feelings. Entertaining, yes, but it's somewhat painful to watch such hubris ad nauseum.


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Kinda funny we were talking about DOW going back to 7k back in Aug, and then the market went crazy again to 10.1k. I think there is a good chance the market is going back up to 12k before coming back down. There is something I can share with people on this forum that if you have the market tools, please take a look at the gains during the past two month. It seems from our analysis that every time the market look like its going to fall someone or something jump in and market take a 180 turn. I am going through some trading records of large S&P companies to see who was doing all the trading since the trading volume has been going down every since this rally begin back in March.

Anyways, for my 2 cents I don't think the market will go down to 2.5k, no, unless we start WWIII. But I think there is more downside right now then up. Since we can't keep the rate any lower than zero, I do see more problem for us in the next six month. Market might reach 7k by or before next March, but I do see the market will recover to 10k with in a year and this time around it will stay above 10k.

Message edited by: hope69 on 2009-10-30 18:35:01 CDT
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I hate working all day away from the computer and then seeing so much red in the markets. Glad it was at least a pay-day.


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denbo32 said:As long as we close above 102.5 on the SPY I don't think we in trouble yet. This week has been a bit odd, but not ready to cause panic.... but it close.I'm curious, what did you use to derive the 102.5 number?


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govenar said:denbo32 said:As long as we close above 102.5 on the SPY I don't think we in trouble yet. This week has been a bit odd, but not ready to cause panic.... but it close.I'm curious, what did you use to derive the 102.5 number?

Pretty much that the close on 10/2 it was actually 102.49 but you get the idea.


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kamalktk said:psychtobe said:damn it, this ignore thing only works in modern view. there, fixed it.
It's a plot to get people to go modern. But I don't see why people ignore IYHTA, the comic value alone is worth it.
Yes, the comic value is worth it

Gold is only up $30 an ounce today

Kinda difficult to see the green shoots, when they are covered in gold dust

Meanwhile, the 3-year Treasury is holding firm at a 0.01% return

Looks like the perfect recipe for an economic recovery.

Message edited by: ifyouhavetoask on 2009-11-03 13:13:11 CST
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ifyouhavetoask said:

.... Meanwhile, the 3-year Treasury is holding firm at a 0.01% return





the 3 year is at 1.46% --- do you just make crap up to try to be funny?

 


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Message edited by: germanpope on 2009-11-03 23:13:57 CST
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Believe she meant 3 month treasury.

Fed meeting Weds. Anything can happen.


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The 9.5% productivity gain is pretty impressive. That should lead job recovery. In addition to the still depressed inventory levels, the Q4 growth has more room to surprise on the upside than downside.


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nycll said:The 9.5% productivity gain is pretty impressive. That should lead job recovery. In addition to the still depressed inventory levels, the Q4 growth has more room to surprise on the upside than downside.

Me thinks that productivity gain was due to large number of job firings.

Also, the remaining employed got really afraid of losing their jobs, and started working harder.

Message edited by: BetterBrainBureau on 2009-11-05 23:29:17 CST
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BetterBrainBureau said:nycll said:The 9.5% productivity gain is pretty impressive. That should lead job recovery. In addition to the still depressed inventory levels, the Q4 growth has more room to surprise on the upside than downside.

Me thinks that productivity gain was due to large number of job firings.

Also, the remaining unemployed got really afraid of losing their jobs, and started working harder.
Exactly. But that won't last long before one of the two things will happen: 1. amount of work continue to rise making companies hiring more people, or 2 amount of work drops to recession levels so companies will make do with existing people without much more additional layoff. I think the evidences (long inventory, pent up capital investment, good corp earnings, normalized capital market) strongly suggest no. 1.


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if that 9.5% was true I would be worried about unemployment in the future. If we got that more efficent over the last few months then why hire more.

But I do agree a large % of that is due to just firing of people. I don't think that can hold long term. Firing people will always boost that number short term.


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Fbone said:Believe she meant 3 month treasury.

Fed meeting Weds. Anything can happen.

Yes, the 3-month.


Hmmm, 10.2% unemployment... and that's just the official lie number

Gold topped $1,100 this morning.

The Florida pension plan is being investigated by the SEC for fraud
I wonder when they'll get around to the other 49 state pension funds??? And then the mutual funds??? And then the 401k plan administrators??


The abyss is near


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ifyouhavetoask said:The abyss is nearIt always is...and yet never actually arrives. Why is that?


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ifyouhavetoask said: .... And then the 401k plan administrators??


The abyss is near

I am always confused by your reference to 401k's.
A 401k is a retirement plan which can be made up of a variety of investments.
the administration of a 401k is separate from the performance or the type of investments in it.

What does your thesis that equity investments in the United States are way over-levearaged, overvalued, and ready for crash have to do with a retirement plan administrator?

 

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Message edited by: germanpope on 2009-11-06 09:58:50 CST
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