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I did a proper financial calculation and indeed it's not worth it. As others have mentioned, buying those stamps days before the hike is an OK short-term gain but you're better off doing other things with your money.

(If you're really doing a lot of eBay shipping you're probably better off buying a mail scale, I would think).


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xpguy said:This is a good investment if you buy up all the forever stamps before the next rate increase (say the day they announce a rate hike to 43 cents)
...then sell them for 42 cents or 2 for 83 cents.


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In the reviews that I read, there is the possibility that "Forever" is not going to last very long. Perhaps 5-6 years at the most.

I expect that USPS will pull the rug out from under people who are buying large amounts of these stamps, expecting to use them for many years in the future. Buyer beware.


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better put the money in s&p 500 fund .


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01LX said:xpguy said:This is a good investment if you buy up all the forever stamps before the next rate increase (say the day they announce a rate hike to 43 cents)
...then sell them for 42 cents or 2 for 83 cents.
Functionally, where would you do this? Selling online is pretty much out of the question, since shipping (oddly enough) would wipe out any gains. Standing on a street corner selling stamps for a cent profit each doesn't sound too rewarding, either.


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I never really paid attention to the stamps I was using, but I have a bunch of stamps I bought two years ago that just have "First Class Mail", with the year 2005 on them. There is no denomination on them. Do these "expire" (need to add the extra stamp)?


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stallion1031 said:tooshy said:Of course the post office will be the big winner...every which way. No thank you.

I dunno, stamps and mailing things seems like a pretty good deal. For 41c someone will come to my house and pick up an envelope. Then they will deliver that envelope anywhere in the US. I wouldn't deliver something down the street for 41c.
Neither would I.

I see my remark has made a few POSTAL...lol

I love our postal service and getting free samples in the mail as well, but looking at it from what's good for my pocketbook, buying stamps ahead of need is so lame, and even with the inducement of a forever price it still does not make the purchase an investment. I'm already losing 5% on prebought stamps. I need an average of 2+ stamps per month. How clever, they won't need to bother with penny, two penny or three penny stamps like before. +1 for the USPS I thought FWers like to float on others not have others float on them.

Furthermore, based on the business model that is USPS, I'd say 41c is the correct price. Don't believe for a second that you are getting an astounding bargain. Why don't you carry that logic and say what a bargain airfare is...after all I couldn't construct a plane and fly myself 3000 miles across the sea for under $300!!


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tooshy said: I thought FWers like to float on others not have others float on them.

For the amount that I spend in stamps they can have the float, I'll take the convenience. Sheesh, it seems like only last year that I was stuck getting 2 cent stamps to make my 37 centers work. Wait, it was just last year. I'll likely never even own a 39 cent stamp, just end up using 3 stamps to mail letters until sometime in 2008. Anyway, it's about time they did this.


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WalStMonky said:tooshy said: I thought FWers like to float on others not have others float on them.

For the amount that I spend in stamps they can have the float, I'll take the convenience. Sheesh, it seems like only last year that I was stuck getting 2 cent stamps to make my 37 centers work. Wait, it was just last year. I'll likely never even own a 39 cent stamp, just end up using 3 stamps to mail letters until sometime in 2008. Anyway, it's about time they did this.
True, I'll take the convenience too and I think it is awfully smart of the USPS to finally do something about the annoying penny, two penny, three penny stamps depending on the amount of the lastest increase. But to buy MORE stamps as an investment is what this thread is about...to that I still say no thank you. I'm still irrationally miffed about giving my money to USPS ahead of the 2+ stamps I need each month when I buy a book of stamps. But that's just me...


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tooshy said: after all I couldn't construct a plane and fly myself 3000 miles across the sea for under $300!!

No, but you can put yourself in a box and mail it with the USPS for much less.


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tooshy, they do sell singles. I bought 5 39s + 2 2 centers for $1.99 on a Chase card last month.


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I agree with Tooshy. I bought a packet of stamps (20?) two years ago. I'm still working on using them up. The price has changed, what, twice already?

As a convenience I'd gladly purchase these stamps so I'd never have to worry about my stamps being out of date.

However, as an investment I don't think this is a very good idea.


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frootmall said:But if the cost of a forever stamp is the same as the cost of a regular stamp, it makes sense to buy forever stamps instead of regular stamps. You are no worse off buying them and in case you have any left over when the rate goes up, you save the cost of extra postage. It also makes sense to buy what you'll need for a few months just before the rate goes up, since you'll recoup your investment in a short time.

But given historical rates of postage increase, you would not have made out very well stocking up for the long term.


Good point.


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RootGears said:I never really paid attention to the stamps I was using, but I have a bunch of stamps I bought two years ago that just have "First Class Mail", with the year 2005 on them. There is no denomination on them. Do these "expire" (need to add the extra stamp)?
Yes, they do.
They are only valid for the amount that the were sold for.
Here is a chart showing what all of the non-denominated stamps are worth. It's become confusing since they stopped putting letters on them.

Interestingly, the Breast Canser Semi-Postal has been an unofficial forever stamp. It costs 45 cents (6 cents are donated to breast cancer research). The official rules say that it is only worth what a one-ounce letter cost to mail at the time you bought it and if the rate goes up you have to pay additioal postage, but people have noticed that the design of the stamp has not changed through the last several rate hikes.


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There are a couple of surprises in the new rates that have not gotten a lot of publicity. There will be three different First Class rates: letters (41 cents for the first ounce), flats (80 cents for the first ounce) and parcels ($1.13 for the first ounce). And while the rate for additional ounces falls from 24 cents to 17 cents, there is a big surprise when a letter exceeds 3.5 ounces: it must be classified as a flat (if under 3/4 inch thick) or a parcel (if over 3/4 inch thick). (See Section 221.)


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10 - 20 years from now, will people still be using stamps?

This looks like the USPS trying to cash in like the US Mint with their blasted new coins every other year...


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Slugabed said:10 - 20 years from now, will people still be using stamps?

Who uses stamps today...seriously???


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Swailcat said:Slugabed said:10 - 20 years from now, will people still be using stamps?

Who uses stamps today...seriously???

I do every once in while. mostly for mail in rebates. i started paying all of my bills online a while ago.


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Swailcat said:Slugabed said:10 - 20 years from now, will people still be using stamps?

Who uses stamps today...seriously???


I do. I make handmade cards, hand write a personal note, and send them in the mail. I know many will disagree, but for some situations an e-card/e-ChristmasNewsletter/e-vite is just not the same. Sometimes a nice piece of personal mail just brightens your whole day.

I will probably buy (and use) the forever stamp.


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Nastygrams are still much more effective when written and mailed.


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