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s0ssos
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posted: Apr. 26, 2007 @ 8:52p
TheeeeChosenOne said: "Schwab Bank reserves the right to modify or discontinue the ATM fee rebate at any time. Note: Unlimited ATM rebates do not include fees imposed by merchants for POS transactions or currency exchange fees for international ATM withdrawals."
This doesn't sound too promising. Most int'l ATMs I've been to charge a fee of some sort.
Does this mean cash advances from an ATM machine and/or straight up ATM withdrawal?
that's not true. most international ATM's DO NOT charge a fee. if you are getting charged fees, you obviously don't know where to look. |
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Gizmogeek
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posted: Apr. 26, 2007 @ 9:03p
abaliga said:Searched and didn't find a post for this one yet.
Everyone with a Schwab Bank Investor Checking™ account automatically earns 4.25% APY, regardless of your balance
* No account minimums * Free checks * No monthly service charges * Free bill pay * No ATM fees * FDIC insured
Linky
Yahoo Article
From the Schwab site - "There is no fee to open and maintain an account at Schwab. Other transaction or service fees may apply."
In their list of fees it says: Minimum Balance Requirement for Schwab One® Account is $2,500. Otherwise a $12.50 charge per quarter.
Does this apply to the new checking account too? |
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hoxbox
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posted: Apr. 26, 2007 @ 9:22p
Gizmogeek said:abaliga said:Searched and didn't find a post for this one yet.
Everyone with a Schwab Bank Investor Checking™ account automatically earns 4.25% APY, regardless of your balance
* No account minimums * Free checks * No monthly service charges * Free bill pay * No ATM fees * FDIC insured
Linky
Yahoo Article
From the Schwab site - "There is no fee to open and maintain an account at Schwab. Other transaction or service fees may apply."
In their list of fees it says: Minimum Balance Requirement for Schwab One® Account is $2,500. Otherwise a $12.50 charge per quarter.
Does this apply to the new checking account too?
"Minimum to Open $0 ($1,000 minimum balance is waived for Schwab One brokerage accounts when you open both an Investor Checking account and a Schwab One account.) Fees There is no fee to open and maintain an account at Schwab. Other transaction or service fees may apply. Please refer to the Charles Schwab Pricing Guide, including any amendments to the guide, for more details on fees."
I interpret this as you can maintain $0 in brokerate and $0 in checking and not get charged any fees at all. Unless I'm told different otherwise this deal would suck...
Edit: I used opened an account online, need to mail in one check to get account open... |
Message edited by: hoxbox on 2007-04-26 21:32:05 CDT
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idealguru
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posted: Apr. 26, 2007 @ 10:15p
techboyds said:verruckterBaum said:(FWF secret of the day): It isn't available, but if you are actually a customer, have an account, and go to apply for the ATM Visa card. The application is right there to apply for the AMEX. I believe you must be logged in at the time.
This is true. I just did it a couple of weeks ago, and have received the fee free Gold cards. It is also true that they can be used as ATM cards, though I have not actually done so myself, yet. You have to pay $40 for Membership Rewards, which I didn't, but since all the normal benefits of a Gold card apply, it's pretty nice.
There is a flat fee to use the gold card as atm ($5 i think...) |
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Dunbar
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posted: Apr. 26, 2007 @ 11:14p
Is there any way to get a cashier's check if you need one? Also, can you download banking transacations directly from Quicken for free? |
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ps2roy
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posted: Apr. 27, 2007 @ 6:57a
You can download into Quicken for free. |
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CoffeeEater
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posted: Apr. 27, 2007 @ 7:47a
craig10x said:ShiZZAh said:can anyone tell me if this is possible?
Lets say I just withdraw $20.00 from any atm. some atms, especially the ones at casinos have huge rate hikes ive seen $15.00 withdrawal charges. so i withdraw 20.00 only from a casino atm and schwab will pay me back $15.00? NO WAY they will lose so much money! Couldnt schwab's competitors organize all their employees and keep doing this and make schwab go bankrupt? thats probably a long shot but still wouldnt this make schwab lose money?
Casinos in Las Vegas charge $15 atm surcharges? really? it's that high? yikes...well, if they do, that's very unusual practice..most atms i have seen, charge a maximum of $2 for each withdrawal...and some less...in my area (NYC) we even have alot of 99 cents atm machines...like in Mcdonalds and in our huge chain of Duane Reade drug stores.....
No, they don't. I've been to tons of casinos in AC and Vegas and I've never see an ATM fee over $4. In AC, they are mostly $3. In Vegas, they are mostly $4 (with some being $3).
I did see $6 at a gentlemen's establishment, but never at a casino. |
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craig10x
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posted: Apr. 27, 2007 @ 9:08a
thanks for the info coffeeeater...i didn't think that sounded right...i figured it was probably higher then the norm, but what the other poster mentioned sounded really outrageous.... |
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markkundinger
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posted: Apr. 27, 2007 @ 9:34a
This really high fees are probably using "cash advance" machines to make a pull out of your debit card using the POS purchase system, after you've tapped out regular ATM withdrawal capability. Almost as bad a rip as doing a cash advance off a credit card.
Incidentally, I don't know what the max ATM withdrawal is on the Schwab Bank debit card, but I was able to pull $2000 a few weeks ago (and was surprised that it worked).
Finally, this is probably just my ignorance about debit card usage in general, but I don't know what happens with the POS surcharges that are sometimes applied to PIN-based purchases at the store (45 cents at a gas station, etc). I have a hunch those get hidden in the purchase price and are not refunded. |
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Xeon852
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posted: Apr. 27, 2007 @ 10:09a
FWIW, a double hard-pull on EQ for me.
Creditor Name Date of Inquiry Credit Bureau C SCHWAB 04/27/2007 Equifax C SHWAB 04/26/2007 Equifax |
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mpkb
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posted: Apr. 27, 2007 @ 10:39a
chrisjs said:Looks good. I don't see any details about how to make (paper) deposits...if that's even possible with this account.
Edit: If you click through Deposit Accounts > Checking it says: "Deposits for the Schwab Bank accounts are not accepted at any Charles Schwab & Co. branches. However, deposits to your Schwab Bank Investor Checking account can be made by transferring funds from your Schwab One brokerage account and by mailing deposits to Schwab Bank."I called to ask them about this. What this means is that you make paper deposits at a branch into your brokerage account. You can then electronically transfer the funds into your checking account. |
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ss315
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posted: Apr. 27, 2007 @ 11:27a
I wonder if Fidelity has changed its policy with using the semi-sweep: I emailed them about using Select MM for bill pay and they said:
"All transactions, including payments made through the BillPay feature, are processed through your core account. Fidelity Select Money Market (FSLXX) is not an available core account option. In addition to the core cash position, you can hold FSLXX outside of the core account. However, if funds are held in a money market mutual fund separate from the core, you will need to move this money to the core account to cover any bill payments. Likewise, when you have money in the core cash position that you want to place in the money market fund, you would need to enter an order to buy that amount of the money market fund."
If this is indeed there new policy, I think the Schwab account is a no brainer--especially b/c of ATM rebates. I would hate for an important bill not to get paid because of ambiguity around which account funds bill pay. |
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Dman081
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posted: Apr. 27, 2007 @ 11:32a
ss315 said:I wonder if Fidelity has changed its policy with using the semi-sweep: I emailed them about using Select MM for bill pay and they said:
"All transactions, including payments made through the BillPay feature, are processed through your core account. Fidelity Select Money Market (FSLXX) is not an available core account option. In addition to the core cash position, you can hold FSLXX outside of the core account. However, if funds are held in a money market mutual fund separate from the core, you will need to move this money to the core account to cover any bill payments. Likewise, when you have money in the core cash position that you want to place in the money market fund, you would need to enter an order to buy that amount of the money market fund."
If this is indeed there new policy, I think the Schwab account is a no brainer--especially b/c of ATM rebates. I would hate for an important bill not to get paid because of ambiguity around which account funds bill pay.
This has always been the official word from them. In my experience, though, they have no problem automatically selling a portion of your FSLXX to cover withdrawals. The only thing that is not automatic is moving money into FSLXX. However, since the APY of the core account is the same or higher than Schwab, I'm sticking with Fidelity.
One thing I don't think has been mentioned...Fidelity accounts are not FDIC insured, only SIPC. In reality not much of a difference. But, its still nice to have. |
Message edited by: Dman081 on 2007-04-27 11:34:30 CDT
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dolmar
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posted: Apr. 27, 2007 @ 11:40a
Dman081 said:One thing I don't think has been mentioned...Fidelity accounts are not FDIC insured, only SIPC. In reality not much of a difference. But, people still should understand if they go with Scwabb they are slightly more protected from once in a lifetime bank defaults.
Man you posted the same statement in 2-3 other threads and always get flamed for it. FDIC insures your money in the event the bank goes under, loose money on there investments, or flat out steals your money. SIPC only covers your money in the event your broker or brokerage house steals your money. If you buy any investments(including a MMF) that blows up you are not covered. You get $0.
I dont understand why you need to have the same thing explained to you more than 1X or why you need to keep making the statement that FDIC and SIPC are basically the same when they are not even close. |
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craig10x
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posted: Apr. 27, 2007 @ 12:04p
While SIPC does not cover "market losses" (the stock market's effect on your share value) it does cover the available assets for loss, should your brokerage company go bankrupt...which essentially, is the same as FDIC protection.... In other words, whatever your funds are currently valued at...that amount is protected against the brokerage company "going under"...They don't protect you from a fraud situation...so make sure you stick with "reputable" brokerage firms...they will protect you if that reputable firm becomes insolvent, and help recover your asset losses!
From the SIPC Website:
Our 35-Year Track Record for Investors The Securities Investor Protection Corporation is the investor's first line of defense in the event a brokerage firm fails owing customers cash and securities that are missing from customer accounts. From the time Congress created it in 1970 through December 2004, SIPC has advanced $570 million in order to make possible the recovery of $14.2 billion in assets for an estimated 624,000 investors. Although not every investor is protected by SIPC, SIPC estimates that no fewer than 99 percent of persons who are eligible have been made whole in the failed brokerage firm cases that it has handled to date. |
Message edited by: craig10x on 2007-04-27 12:18:54 CDT
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dolmar
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posted: Apr. 27, 2007 @ 12:26p
craig10x said:While SIPC does not cover "market losses" (the stock market's effect on your share value) it does cover the available assets for loss, should your brokerage company go bankrupt...which essentially, is the same as FDIC protection.... In other words, whatever your funds are currently valued at...that amount is protected against the brokerage company "going under"...
Wrong again. If you brokerage company goes under and you have 10K shares of X. All SIPC does is grantee you still have 10K shares X. X can be a stock, MMF, Bond, any type of investment. If X is worth $0 that is too bad for you they wont grantee the price of X ever. If your money is investment in Y Brokerage account MMF. And they buy VRDN for the fund and are too stupid to redem those VRDN in a timely matter and are the last one with thoses issues and by the time they try to redem them to underwriter there redemtions forces the underwriter under. Then your brokerage houses has 2 choices either they can break the MMF( Ie return less than $1 per share to all investors) or make good on thoses bonds themselfs but SIPC would do nothing for you.
The only time SIPC would cover cash in your brokerage account was if it was not invested in anything and just ideling in your brokerage account earning no interest at all and the brokerage unit went under and your cash was stolen.
I guess you missed the section on "What is Covered":
When SIPC gets Involved
When a brokerage firm fails owing customers cash and securities that are missing from customer accounts, SIPC usually asks a federal court to appoint a trustee to liquidate the firm and protect its customers. With smaller brokerage firm failures, SIPC sometimes deals directly with customers.
So if you have MMF position you get thoses shares ie if thoses shares are worth $0 then you get nothing. As Cash is univested money sitting idel in the brokerage account. |
Message edited by: dolmar on 2007-04-27 12:38:17 CDT
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Gizmogeek
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posted: Apr. 27, 2007 @ 3:55p
hoxbox said:Gizmogeek said:abaliga said:Searched and didn't find a post for this one yet.
Everyone with a Schwab Bank Investor Checking™ account automatically earns 4.25% APY, regardless of your balance
* No account minimums * Free checks * No monthly service charges * Free bill pay * No ATM fees * FDIC insured
Linky
Yahoo Article
From the Schwab site - "There is no fee to open and maintain an account at Schwab. Other transaction or service fees may apply."
In their list of fees it says: Minimum Balance Requirement for Schwab One® Account is $2,500. Otherwise a $12.50 charge per quarter.
Does this apply to the new checking account too?
"Minimum to Open $0 ($1,000 minimum balance is waived for Schwab One brokerage accounts when you open both an Investor Checking account and a Schwab One account.) Fees There is no fee to open and maintain an account at Schwab. Other transaction or service fees may apply. Please refer to the Charles Schwab Pricing Guide, including any amendments to the guide, for more details on fees."
I interpret this as you can maintain $0 in brokerate and $0 in checking and not get charged any fees at all. Unless I'm told different otherwise this deal would suck...
You wrote "There is no fee to open and maintain an account at Schwab. Other transaction or service fees may apply."
What does this mean? In their pricing guide they list the "Minimum Balance Requirements and Charges" and the charge for balances below $2500 is $12.50 every three months.
Perhaps "service" fees and "charges" aren't the same. Why are they so vague. Perhaps to confuse us...or perhaps to fool us? |
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