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i3ighead
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posted: May. 12, 2007 @ 6:45p
aandt1999 said:I was logging into my Citibank card online at www.citicards.com and noticed on the offers that cycle through (the 2nd offer) that they are offering the PremierPass card with a 25000 bonus, and 15 month BT (has 3%/$250 cap fee). Note it has a $75 annual fee. This still is a pretty good deal to get 25000 TY points, especially if you can find a way to avoid the annual fee. Originally link was not working but is working now.
Regarding the fee. I just swapped out my elite card (via a phone rep) to a regular one and they said that I would get a refund on the fee and that the TY pts will stay. Hope that helps. |
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jescruizin
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posted: May. 12, 2007 @ 7:44p
piyush123 said:Remember these will probably post as purchase points so you can match them with 25,000 flight points!!
Extremely hot deal in my opinion!
Forgive my ignorance....what does it mean when you state that the purchase points can be matched by flight points?
Can these "flight points" be used in any frequent flier program?
Thanks. |
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Nutwood
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posted: May. 12, 2007 @ 11:46p
tbuccelli said:Nutwood said:Its up and working. ok deal. dont forget theres 75.00 annual fee. Citi is tuff on waving it even if you cancel card shortly. but you still get 175.00 worth bonus thru TY network.
Just as an FYI, Citibank will waive the $75 fee if you have CitiGold.
Which card is the Citi Gold & does it have a fee ? |
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donthvname
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posted: May. 13, 2007 @ 12:01a
Citi Gold is NOT a card - it is a name for account management - you need to have 100K asset with Citi then you become Citi Gold, or if you have mortgage with Citk, your mortgage needs to be 250K, then you become Citi Gold. Just off the top of my head, but you can find details on Citi site.
Nutwood said:tbuccelli said:Nutwood said:Its up and working. ok deal. dont forget theres 75.00 annual fee. Citi is tuff on waving it even if you cancel card shortly. but you still get 175.00 worth bonus thru TY network.
Just as an FYI, Citibank will waive the $75 fee if you have CitiGold.
Which card is the Citi Gold & does it have a fee ? |
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donthvname
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posted: May. 13, 2007 @ 12:06a
When use PPE (or PP) to buy airline tickets, the actual miles you fly, become flight points. However, such flight points would not go to TY for redemption, until it is matched by purchase point, at 1:1 ratio. Once they are credited to your TY account, you can redeem it anyway you want as if they are the TY pt. No, you cannot use it for miles, but TY has a reward category for Travel. To better learn about how that works, either do a search here (numerous threads discuss how to maximize the value of your TY pts - by far is to redeem it for airline tickets), or go to TY site and read thru the Travel Reward section.
jescruizin said:piyush123 said:Remember these will probably post as purchase points so you can match them with 25,000 flight points!!
Extremely hot deal in my opinion!
Forgive my ignorance....what does it mean when you state that the purchase points can be matched by flight points?
Can these "flight points" be used in any frequent flier program?
Thanks. |
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donthvname
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posted: May. 13, 2007 @ 12:17a
ScootyPuffSr said: 1) I value $250 cash over 25K TY points. YMMV .
25K TY pts definitely = or >, sometimes much > than $250 cash.
For starter, you can redeem GCs which at the $100 and up level, is $1 to 100pt ratio.
Then, in many cases, a ticket to domestic US, incl Alaska, excl Hawaii, and to Canada from your home airport, would be worth more than $250. 25K gets you such ticket, though you need to pay tax and fee. In the worst cases posted, the ratio is 1.5c = 1pt. In the best cases posted, the ratio can go as high as 3c = 1pt. Such tickets also earn miles as basically TY buys the ticket on Expedia. A good illustration would be using the 25K pt for a flight to Alaska in summer time (usually costs $650 and up) If you save the TY pts and redeem for international flights, the value can go quite a bit higher - such as going Europe from West Coast, or going Asia from East Coast...
The above example is for Fixed-Point redemption option. If you choose Flex-Point, then the point is valued as exactly 1c = 1pt. |
Message edited by: donthvname on 2007-05-13 00:22:31 CDT
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tashayar
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posted: May. 13, 2007 @ 12:17a
Ooooooh, I was not planning to pull the trigger on another card but 0% for 15 months AND 25000 pts is just too sweet. Even with the $75 fee, it still means $175 in my pocket.
Decisions, decisions...
Thanks for posting all those links! |
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i3ighead
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posted: May. 13, 2007 @ 3:47a
tashayar said:Ooooooh, I was not planning to pull the trigger on another card but 0% for 15 months AND 25000 pts is just too sweet. Even with the $75 fee, it still means $175 in my pocket.
Decisions, decisions...
Thanks for posting all those links!
tell them to convert it to a free card after the pts post. |
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g10ny
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posted: May. 13, 2007 @ 4:06a
I already have the no-fee PPE card. If I'd like to jump on this one, but I am afraid that I'll get the same answer as the one I got when I tried to open the second Prof card "You already have the highest number of cards that can be issued to an individual", I mean I don't think Citi will open a second PPE card for me.
So I guess I'm out, the no-fee PPE is good enough for me to keep it. Bye-bye, 25K TY points! |
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markkundinger
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posted: May. 13, 2007 @ 5:16a
I guess this card would be really money for a frequent flyer. 25k points which can be redeemed for a spendy flight, but also, you can use the card to get a ridiculous effective CashBack percentage if you only use it on flights (up to the first 25k miles flown). That's equivalent of like another $200.
Ideally, you'd have another citibank card with a low/no fee balance transfer, and just realloacate credit and use that instead of the high-fee BT deal on this card. (Besides, floating a BT would make getting using the card for plane flights more difficult) |
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ScootyPuffSr
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posted: May. 13, 2007 @ 6:39a
coolbargains said:Well I have to disagree with Scooty on YMMV. Its not YMMV. You can obviously get 250 worth GC or else better off an expensive flight ticket worth more than 250 bucks.
You are certainly free to disagree. I fail to see how $250 in GC are more valuable than $250 in cash. Cash in my money market account earns interest. Gift cards do not earn interest.
Credit cards earn at least 2% back, Gift Cards earn nothing. Credit cards have consumer protections, gift cards to not. Gift cards have extended warranties and best value guarantees, gift cards do not.
I don't think it "obvious" at all that one SHOULD buy a more expensive flight just because one CAN. I have tried to find a ticket where I WANTED to go for over 2 years with TY points and I have yet to find one where I could redeem > $.01/TY point. |
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ScootyPuffSr
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posted: May. 13, 2007 @ 6:43a
donthvname said:ScootyPuffSr said: 1) I value $250 cash over 25K TY points. YMMV .
25K TY pts definitely = or >, sometimes much > than $250 cash.
For starter, you can redeem GCs which at the $100 and up level, is $1 to 100pt ratio.
For starters GC do not earn interest, cash does. For starters gift cards do not earn more rewards, credit cards that are paid with cash do. So at a minimum a $250 gift card is going to cost me at least $5 in foregone rewards.
For starters 25,000 TY points would get me 2 $100 gift cards and my other points would "rot" until I earned another 5,000 points. Cash would not, it would earn me 6% interest.
For starters cash can be used anywhere, gift cards cannot. For starters credit cards paid off with cash have extended warranties and dispute consumer rights, Gift Cards do not.
So I can't speak for you, but for me $250 >> $250 GC.
I did say, YMMV. |
Message edited by: ScootyPuffSr on 2007-05-13 06:44:55 CDT
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longhornjas
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posted: May. 13, 2007 @ 6:45a
i3ighead said: Regarding the fee. I just swapped out my elite card (via a phone rep) to a regular one and they said that I would get a refund on the fee and that the TY pts will stay. Hope that helps.
How long did you have the PPE card before you made the swap? |
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ScootyPuffSr
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posted: May. 13, 2007 @ 6:53a
25k points which can be redeemed for a spendy flight, but also, you can use the card to get a ridiculous effective CashBack percentage if you only use it on flights (up to the first 25k miles flown).
I was told that loop hole had been closed from several different sources. I was told that flght points can only be matched by purchase points, NOT account opening points.
I agree one earns a ridiculous amount of flight points per $ spent for plane tickets. However, in order to redeem those points you have to earn purchase points and the effective pt/$ is not that great in my opinion for PPE. |
Message edited by: ScootyPuffSr on 2007-05-13 07:18:17 CDT
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ahself
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posted: May. 13, 2007 @ 7:21a
ScootyPuffSr said:25k points which can be redeemed for a spendy flight, but also, you can use the card to get a ridiculous effective CashBack percentage if you only use it on flights (up to the first 25k miles flown).
I was told that loop hole had been closed from several different sources. I was told that flght points can only be matched by purchase points, NOT account opening points.
I agree one earns a ridiculous amount of flight points per $ spent for plane tickets. However, in order to redeem those points you have to earn purchase points and the effective pt/$ is not that great in my opinion for PPE.
Are you saying that you can only get the "fixed flight option" with 25k TY points if those points were accrued as purchase points? I haven't seen that anywhere in TY Network's Ts&Cs. It appears that they treat all available points in your balance the same...i.e. available to redeem for GCs, products, flights, etc. |
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ScootyPuffSr
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posted: May. 13, 2007 @ 7:42a
Are you saying that you can only get the "fixed flight option" with 25k TY points if those points were accrued as purchase points? I haven't seen that anywhere in TY Network's Ts&Cs. It appears that they treat all available points in your balance the same...i.e. available to redeem for GCs, products, flights, etc.
No, I'm not saying anything like that at all. Those 25K TY points are TY points and can be used any way that TY points can be used.
They are NOT, however, purchase points and therefore if you have 25K in flight points banked, waiting to be matched by purchase points, you can't (as I understand the rules) use THESE 25K TY points to pull the banked flight points into your TY point balance. |
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piyush123
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posted: May. 13, 2007 @ 9:02a
ScootyPuffSr said:Are you saying that you can only get the "fixed flight option" with 25k TY points if those points were accrued as purchase points? I haven't seen that anywhere in TY Network's Ts&Cs. It appears that they treat all available points in your balance the same...i.e. available to redeem for GCs, products, flights, etc.
No, I'm not saying anything like that at all. Those 25K TY points are TY points and can be used any way that TY points can be used.
They are NOT, however, purchase points and therefore if you have 25K in flight points banked, waiting to be matched by purchase points, you can't (as I understand the rules) use THESE 25K TY points to pull the banked flight points into your TY point balance.
Hmmm I did not know that. My last bonus posted as purchase points but the flight points have not shown up in my account yet. I will post here and let people know if I was able to bank the flight points to match the initial bonus. |
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piyush123
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posted: May. 13, 2007 @ 9:07a
In my opinion Thankyou Points are worth more than $.01. To put my money where my mouth is I will pay $ 650 for 60,000 points or $ 1,900 for 165,000 points.
PM me if any one is interested! |
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