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Yeah, that's just an enormous amount of inquiries. I didn't even have half of that number of inquiries... AFTER I did my AOR. Also, I didn't notice before how all of your current accounts were kind of staggered over a few months, which also isn't very good. I felt before like it was possible to have a decent small AOR if you nuked your balances and pushed your score higher, but now I'm pretty sure you shouldn't even be considering an AOR for quite some time.

I'd start triple pulling to bump inquiries ASAP, wait a long time, and look into any possibilities of CLI without a hard pull with your current accounts. Chase will always hard pull on CLI requests, but I'm not sure on the rest. You could try the AMEX crack strategy I posted before, but I wouldn't do that until you've bumped a ton of those inquiries off.


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I'm not sure if its true or not, but I read somewhere here on FWF (I can't find it, and its been awhile) that if you're deployed overseas, you need a BoA account. I'm not sure if its the military won't pay you, or something else. Anyone here wanna chime in on this?


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DiabloD3 said:I'm not sure if its true or not, but I read somewhere here on FWF (I can't find it, and its been awhile) that if you're deployed overseas, you need a BoA account. I'm not sure if its the military won't pay you, or something else. Anyone here wanna chime in on this?

Why does that matter to you? Are you military? Are you deployed overseas?

not that your answers matter.... the RUMOR you were told is false...

BoA is an OPTION for those deployed... and they provide SERVICES like those found in US banks, because BoA is the current CONTRACTOR that supports these efforts. Before FURTHERING the rumor, you could have done a quick Google search... within the first few returns, you would have seen this:

Military Banking

As far as you keep calling it a Monoploy.... contracts are awarded after competition... appearently BoA had the best offer.

And now, since you keep changing the topic, and have not been too forthcoming with all your info, I am stepping out of the conversation... with 1 last fragment of advice:

Be patient, because TIME is the only thing that will help you in an AOR... your scores need to recover, your INQs need to drop off, and your current accounts need to AGE!

Tech
US ARMY (Retired)


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I want to confirm something: Experian is not effected by bumpage, and TrueCredit, PrivacyGuard, CreditKeeper, and PrivacySource all can generate daily bumps?

Edit: As for myFICO reports, RPTDSP20 is 20% off any report until May 31st.

Edit 2: Apparently Juniper does soft pulls four times a month. Although this means they can ratejack you quickly, this could assist in bumping, right? Thread on CB about it

Edit 3: Capital One has a magic phone number that you can call and get CLIs apparently. Thread on CB about it


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Argh! Why does Citi tempt me /now/! They sent me an application for a credit card, and I know I'm going to be denied for it!


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Seems like OP is going to ignore all the help he asked for...

OP, Please change your title to "Diablo's DBA (Death by Applications)"... or "Why can't I get a credit card; I've ignored everyone's advice???"


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Hold up Technologist, at no point did I say I'm going to apply for it. Citi is tempting me, but I must say no. And its really hard too. BTW, Technologist, could you possibly answer my above question about bumping services? I'm finding conflicting information, and I'm not sure which ones still currently offer daily bumps.


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DiabloD3 said:

How long does it take for inquiries to no longer effect my score? And how much can bumpage remove some of these in the next 6 months?


You answered your own question... 6 months. Depending on which service(s) you use wiull determine how much faster you can bump them off.

Again, TIME is you friend.... one of the biggest things going against you is CL age... then low limits...

Now, answer my questions... Why does the rumor about BoA and military bother you... and why hate BoA so much? Why does that matter to you? Are you military? Are you deployed overseas?


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Sorry Tech, I meant this question:

I want to confirm something: Experian is not effected by bumpage, and TrueCredit, PrivacyGuard, CreditKeeper, and PrivacySource all can generate daily bumps?

I don't mind paying for two or three of those for a few months if they allow me to daily bump, I'm just not sure which ones do it/still do it.

And its not that I hate BoA, its just that they look like a bank that I don't want to deal with. What really made me dislike them was when they lost customer information. Now, probably they've fixed those problems, but I still dunno.

If you guys still deal with them after all the problems they cause, then I may or may not consider them for a card, depending or not if they have any worth pursuing.


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At least part of my question has been answered by this recent post, PrivacyGuard is out.

Also, has anyone noticed PrivacyGuard, CreditKeeper, and PrivacySource are all currently down? Are they all the same service but with different names?


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DiabloD3 said:I'm not sure if its true or not, but I read somewhere here on FWF (I can't find it, and its been awhile) that if you're deployed overseas, you need a BoA account. I'm not sure if its the military won't pay you, or something else. Anyone here wanna chime in on this?

That's sort of true.... They force everyone to have an illegal goverment travel card. Your employer can't legally force you to get a CC in your own name and currerntly it is DOD policy to do this with the Govt travel card. The flip side is that it isn't BOA policy rather a DOD one. I saw a story a year or so back in the AF times about a major and lt colonel that were forced out of the Air Force for refusing the goverment travel card.


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Chimeer, thats even worse than I thought. Yuck.


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chimeer said:DiabloD3 said:I'm not sure if its true or not, but I read somewhere here on FWF (I can't find it, and its been awhile) that if you're deployed overseas, you need a BoA account. I'm not sure if its the military won't pay you, or something else. Anyone here wanna chime in on this?

That's sort of true.... They force everyone to have an illegal goverment travel card. Your employer can't legally force you to get a CC in your own name and currerntly it is DOD policy to do this with the Govt travel card. The flip side is that it isn't BOA policy rather a DOD one. I saw a story a year or so back in the AF times about a major and lt colonel that were forced out of the Air Force for refusing the goverment travel card.


ummm, you have never been in the military, have you??

DoD Policy is the same as law... it is based on law, backed by CFR (code of Federal Regulations, etc.).

While REGULAR employers can't do certain things, DoD is exempt from some of those things... like OVERTIME! Could you imagine someone complaining that they haven't had a day off in 5 weeks, because they are in the middle of a WAR?

Your Regular employer can't hand you a weapon and tell you to go shoot at people... but the military can... does that make that illegal???

For more info on the travel card, and how BoA is the current contractor for this, go HERE!

There are all sorts of exemptions to the policy, to include someone's POOR finances...

Using this card actually HELPS young soldiers GET and KEEP good credit scores... BoA approves them easily, because they know the money is going to be repaid by DoD... it is almost as good a getting a secured CC. And DoD saves money, because they ONLY have one company to pay... cutting down on payment times and infrastructure costs...

Again, quit reading too much into the evil BoA... I happen to think they are pretty good, and have been banking with them (or predecessors) for 20+ years, without issue.


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Technologist, I already said I'll consider a card from them for the AOR, I just haven't looked through what they offer yet.

In further updates, my Eq score as of the 20th is now 631 according to myFICO ScoreWatch, my Sony card was added to my report, though ScoreWatch doesn't include balance decreases, so my actual score could still be higher... at least, from what I can tell how ScoreWatch works.


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Update: I managed to convince Chase to move $500 from my Sony card to my Amazon card. This may or may not increase, decrease, or do nothing to my credit score. This was not AOR oriented, I just simply use my Amazon card more than my others due to the rewards. How I got past the 6 month age CL move rule I don't know.


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You REALLY need to go back to Stage -3. Do some more research. Ask in the AOR sticky. Take your time, and rewarded you will be.. yes.


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charliek, its not that I didn't do my research, I'm just planning it a little early. I'm sitting and waiting until my scores climb back up, which may or may not be in 6 months.


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DiabloD3 said:At least part of my question has been answered by this recent post, PrivacyGuard is out.

Also, has anyone noticed PrivacyGuard, CreditKeeper, and PrivacySource are all currently down? Are they all the same service but with different names?


To answer my question, yes, they're all the same service. The webapp frontends look all the same, and two of them mention Trilegiant/Affinion by name. The only options that were left were AMEX's CreditSecure (which I apparently can't get because I don't own an AMEX card), and TrueCredit (which I can't get because TransUnion is trying to force me to go through some long drawn out process involving my 'government ID', a utility bill, and a fax machine. I don't own a fax machine, I don't have any utilities in my name, and I don't think I want them anywhere near my ID).

So, bumping inquiries off to increase my score is out. I'll have to wait 6 months the hard way.


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Update: As of May 27th, myFICO ScoreWatch says my Eq score is 640, up from 631 the 20th.


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Update: Ex is up to 638, TU is up to 635 as of May 30th

TU inqs in the past six months are still at 8
Ex inqs in the past six months are still at 6

TU and Ex both list $0 on my CapOne, $0 on my Amazon, and my new Sony; but my HH has not updated and neither has WaMu.


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