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I call CRS to rellocated my high limit personal citi card CL to my new upromise personal citi card two days ago. Since it had been two days, I decide to call. I call three times and got three difference answer from CRS about the CL transfer.
First CRS claim that citi bank won't allow any CL rellocation since 5/25/2007. So my request is denied.
Second CRS told me it might take fews more days to process my request. Obviously he don't know anything.
Third CRS told me my request is denied because i got 0% BT promotion in upromise card which cause the request been denied.

I just wondering if anyone encounter this issue? I plan to ask for another relocation and if that fail, i will close one account and move entire CL to the upromise card.

Update 1:
It seen like "wait for 24-48 hours" mean not approved. Last time i relocate my CL of my citi card, it only take two hour to show on my account.
I request another relocation this morning, CRS waa nice and told me it will be done in 24hours. However, I check back in 5 hours, still no change. Seen like they are pretty tough this time. I going to wait for another 24 hours, then call to consolidate two account. Hopefully that will ok.

Update 2:
I try to rellocate from Dividend to diamond, diamond to upromise and dividend to upromise, all of the request got denied. I end up consolidate diamond to Upromise. I don't want to consolidate my dividend since i have it since 2002. The last CRS claimed that the "new policy" stated that you can not rellocated to account that have BT APR <3%. But she suggest me to consolidate.

Update 3:
Most of people have trouble rellocate the CL to the account with APR <2.99%. There is still ok to consolidate your account. So, please ONLY report if you are able to rellocate CL to any account with promotion rate. Some of the CRS will told you to "wait for 24 hrs" and that's doesn't mean it approved. Please report ONLY if you actually see the CL been rellocated.


Update 4:
Some members had sucessfully did the retention reallocation. That's seem to be the only way to rellocate currently.



I don't like the sound of it. Hopefully not true.


Well I was successful in reallocating from an Citi Dividend to an Citi Diamond that has 0% BT to improve my utilization.

This was on Mar 25.

I had to call twice because I got a clueless CSR the first time and she said you cannot reallocate credit limit. I said OK, then hang up, and called again and the next CSR had it done in a minute.


My experience last month is that they either can do it immediately or it won't happen regardless of what they promise. I suspect their computers are down a lot.


About a month ago I also had to call several times to get to a CSR who would perform the reallocation. Once I did, it was done within 24 hours.

And it was also for the 0% for life deal...


I reallocated $9k with Citi yesterday over the phone without any problem at all. I think your rep just doesn't know how to do it...


I had 3 cards reallocated last month, no issues.... They were even nice enough to mess up and not take 13k off one of the cards =)


I made six Citi personal credit line reallocations in May. Eleven total attempts were needed. "Approved in 24 hours" always meant not approved. I never had success when I could hear the CSR typing excessively, like an email. I never had success reallocating a revolving credit line without closing it. Calls on a Saturday did not work as well as calls on a Sunday.

I did reallocate to an AMEX diamond credit line, with a zero fee, zero % offer. I also had no problem reallocating a line from a higher interest rate card to a lower one.

My last two reallocations were after May 25.


six rellocation of CL with eleven attempt? That's seen troublesome. Average two attempt for each rellocation. I am wondering how long apart for disapproved to approved for a rellocation?


Three of those attempts were failures trying to convince them to reallocate a revolving credit line.


retire35 said: Three of those attempts were failures trying to convince them to reallocate a revolving credit line.

Pardon my ignorance, but what is a revolving credit line? I thought every credit card was a revolving credit line.

I looked it up and it said "a credit line that can be borrowed from again once it is repaid". Once I repay my credit cards my "available credit" goes up by the amount paid. I consider it a revolving credit line.


I faced a similar problem but everything worked when I decided to leave 2 K on my old card (instead of 1 K). Sometimes they have minimum credit limit required on some cards. So try to leave at least 2-3 K on your old card.


I think the csr's are on crack. I just did a reallocation from one card citi elite pp to citi plat select appreciation plus card to get a 52k 2.99% for life and no bal transfer fee. It was done 10 minutes later when I logged on to my account. Also I have about 90% util on my other cards via a AOR I did.


Except for business-->personal and personal-->business (and any Discover Card), I am probably in the high 90%+ range for reallocation attempts.

What I find most amusing is how friendly and easy reallocation between Merrill Lynch, Charles Schwab, and Fidelity is considering they are supposed to be bitter brokerage rivals. I'm surprised they didn't write a "fire-wall" into the contract even though all are issued through FIA.


2 days ago I requested $18k transferred from AA (leaving $1k) to AT&T; got the dreaded 24-48 hour notice from first Indian rep.
Called back same night, got India then transferred to "account specialist" not indian - again 24 - 48hr answer.
Called just now & non india read the notes on my account, went away for a few minutes to check with "specialist" again - came back and said request was denied because I'm attempting to transfer to a 0% card. She said my only option is to close the AA in order to reallocate, which I won't do. So...
Looks like I'm screwed, since my account is already notated for any future reps.


ScootyPuffSr said: retire35 said: Three of those attempts were failures trying to convince them to reallocate a revolving credit line.

Pardon my ignorance, but what is a revolving credit line? I thought every credit card was a revolving credit line.

I looked it up and it said "a credit line that can be borrowed from again once it is repaid". Once I repay my credit cards my "available credit" goes up by the amount paid. I consider it a revolving credit line.


I'm myself am not entirely sure of the definition of "revolving credit line". But it seems that Citi Hilton and Premier Pass Elite are revolving credit lines. This is visible on the online account information. I had the most difficultly reallocating revolving credit lines.

Perhaps these are charge cards that you don't have to pay all at once, rather than credit cards? (I know, it doesn't make sense). Both cards are geared towards travel.

I also find that citi grants higher limits with revolving credit lines.


ScootyPuffSr said: retire35 said: Three of those attempts were failures trying to convince them to reallocate a revolving credit line.

Pardon my ignorance, but what is a revolving credit line? I thought every credit card was a revolving credit line.

I looked it up and it said "a credit line that can be borrowed from again once it is repaid". Once I repay my credit cards my "available credit" goes up by the amount paid. I consider it a revolving credit line.


Welcome to Citi world. "Revolving line" concept applies to cards that have no hard limit. You can spend above and beyond your available credit card limit without penalty, but you have to pay it off to the level below the limit right away. Citi has several cards like that and transferring CL from/to them is quite painful.

Another concern is branded Citi card vs. any other. Just because they are both personal, doesn't mean you can transfer between them.


hguy229 said: I faced a similar problem but everything worked when I decided to leave 2 K on my old card (instead of 1 K). Sometimes they have minimum credit limit required on some cards. So try to leave at least 2-3 K on your old card.

In April I attempted to reallocate between Citi cards unsuccessfully. I was trying to move all but 1k from my AA to another card.

When I called back a few days later, I asked why the reallocation had failed. The CSR claimed I could not reduce the CL of my Platinum AA card below 2k. I told her to leave 2k and it was done instantly.


Wow, I have 40+ cards and have only had to reallocate 4 times/year. What do you do that you are reallocating to and from a card within a week?


I reallocated (reclaimed?) $17k (full CL) from citi dividend -> mtvU. They said they won't allow reallocation, however they can "consolidate" as I wanted the old dividend card a/c closed.


AA's minimum line is 2K - if you want to keep it open, that is. If you leave it with 2K to begin with, you probably have no issue at all.

TheGMan said: 2 days ago I requested $18k transferred from AA (leaving $1k) to AT&T; got the dreaded 24-48 hour notice from first Indian rep.
Called back same night, got India then transferred to "account specialist" not indian - again 24 - 48hr answer.
Called just now & non india read the notes on my account, went away for a few minutes to check with "specialist" again - came back and said request was denied because I'm attempting to transfer to a 0% card. She said my only option is to close the AA in order to reallocate, which I won't do. So...
Looks like I'm screwed, since my account is already notated for any future reps.


Premier Pass Elite also has a 2k minimum.


donthvname said: AA's minimum line is 2K - if you want to keep it open, that is. If you leave it with 2K to begin with, you probably have no issue at all.

*sigh* That would be great information for the master reallocation thread too. Assuming it's the 2K glitch & not the 0% factor, the problem will be finding a rep to cooperate, with decline notes already on the account.


got the 0% Universal card last week, called to activate and asked to reallocate from citi diamond and premier pass elite to the Universal leaving $500 at each account, they moved from diamond but not the premier

called couple days later talked to Indian rep and resubmitted the premier request

nothing happened for couple days so i called again and the American lady said premier requires $2000 minimum line, so i moved a figure that's not a whole number, like $3999.xx, she said it would go through in couple hours

nothing happened after couple days, so i called today, got an Indian rep, he said it was denied because you have to move a whole number amount!! i got fed up so i just asked to close the premier and consolidate, and it happens like that, no waiting, new credit line shows up right away online


I reallocated to Universal card week of 05/07 and no issues.


World MC cards have 2000 minimum if you keep them open. If you decide to close it via consolidation, the full credit line can be consolidated.

FWIW, it is actually much better than Visa Signature, which is 5000 minimum line to maintain account.

Why in the world someone decides to move something that is .xx is beyond me.


donthvname said:

Why in the world someone decides to move something that is .xx is beyond me.



i had a balance, that was the amount to reallocate in order to keep exactly $2000 minimum on the transfer from account, i didn't know they had that strange rule


AH! I called Citi a couple days ago and asked them to reconsolidated some of my credit lines post AOR. I wanted to pull 7000 from the 8000 on my AAdvantage card and 4500 from my platinum card and put it towards my Drivers (6800) edge card for a total of 18300 or something. They told me no problem.. that it would be complete in a couple days. No change yet, called them earlier tonight. They said wait. Both AMEX and Chase relocation happened instantly. Looks like i've been lied to. 2k min on AA card eh? I guess i'll call them tomorrow and switch some stuff up. Any suggestions?


I was able to move 10k from a Dividend MC and 13k from a Dividend Visa both to a Diamond 0% for life MC.

The CSR was even able to tell me how much minimum I had to keep on each card. $500 min limit on both cards.

I ended up with a 29k 0% for life card. This card funded my house extension.


DjPiLL said:
I ended up with a 29k 0% for life card. This card funded my house extension.


Hope you have a HELOC to flip this debt to if needed!


Move a round number, say, 3700 or 3800, even 3900, would work and you just have 2100 on the other card - what is the difference between 2000 and 2100 in the whole picture?

Sometimes you really have to use common sense - the computer system is not designed to handle this type of transaction down to the penny... because the chance of happening is almost nil, until, of course, someone decided to ask for such!

bondo123 said: donthvname said:

Why in the world someone decides to move something that is .xx is beyond me.



i had a balance, that was the amount to reallocate in order to keep exactly $2000 minimum on the transfer from account, i didn't know they had that strange rule


UGH, this is a very disturbing data point:

My coworker was approved for a Diamond Preferred Awards MC thru Citi and she was trying to reallocate her credit line to her Citi Driver's Edge, the CSR put er on hold to talk with sup...and they have made a new policy as of 5/1 that you cannot reallocate on new cards with 0% offers. The Diamond Preferred Awards MC has a 3% BT fee and $250 cap!!!

Anyone else finding similar experiences???


Correct, the cash/point rebate cards have $500 minimum. The reason I know was one time I applied a Diamond card (back when they offered 10K TY pts), that was the No.4 or 5 cards opened in a 3 month period. The CSR called to ask me to re-allocate some line from the existing Dividend card which had 20+K. I said no, she said then I could only give you $500 credit line. I said fine as all I wanted was the 10K bonus. Rec'd 40K total TY pts in 4 months by going thru various TY Network linked cards. Hindsight, I should have said yes, so the cancelled DIA would not show on my report as having $500 limit.

DjPiLL said: I was able to move 10k from a Dividend MC and 13k from a Dividend Visa both to a Diamond 0% for life MC.

The CSR was even able to tell me how much minimum I had to keep on each card. $500 min limit on both cards.

I ended up with a 29k 0% for life card. This card funded my house extension.


Sounds true as there are sporadic reports thruout FW about this new development - you can definitely thank the AORers for that.

Try to consolidate the old card to the new one - that is to close the old card via consolidation method - see if that would still work.

Also how long a history you have with Citi probably also plays a role.

Mikawl said: UGH, this is a very disturbing data point:

My coworker was approved for a Diamond Preferred Awards MC thru Citi and she was trying to reallocate her credit line to her Citi Driver's Edge, the CSR put er on hold to talk with sup...and they have made a new policy as of 5/1 that you cannot reallocate on new cards with 0% offers. The Diamond Preferred Awards MC has a 3% BT fee and $250 cap!!!

Anyone else finding similar experiences???


donthvname said: Correct, the cash/point rebate cards have $500 minimum.

Premier Pass is a point card, the limit for it is NOT $500.

And people reallocate to 0% BT even when they do not do AOR, it's just common sense.


RushnRockt said: donthvname said: Correct, the cash/point rebate cards have $500 minimum.

Premier Pass is a point card, the limit for it is NOT $500.

And people reallocate to 0% BT even when they do not do AOR, it's just common sense.


PP & PPE already discussed on this thread - these and the AA are the 2K minimum we have known so far. And I think they are World MC as well.

The cash rebate/point rebate cards I refer to, are those that are not in the "world" class, and not travel-related type - thought it was obvious... sorry for not pointing that out.

Unless you need to carry a balance, or using the BT to pay other cards, otherwise 0% does not mean much. I got the 0% offer everytime I close an account with Citi, turned them down each time. Dont carry a balance, no need to use BT to pay off other cards, too impatient to wait for a year (and the monthly maintenance come with it) to gain some extra money, .... all these add together makes 0% useless to me, even it is common sense you would want o% on your card... but if that is a feature never comes into play then why bother?

On the other hand, the AORers definitely kill the 0% no fee offerings, for those who actually need it, not for extra income, but need it to help paying down higher rate loans or whatever.


HappyGuy said: DjPiLL said:
I ended up with a 29k 0% for life card. This card funded my house extension.


Hope you have a HELOC to flip this debt to if needed!



Why would you say this? In case they somehow kill the offer on me?

I do have a HELOC to cover it. But I actually have the cash in hand to cover this. I said to myself... why should I deplete my emergency fund to pay for this when I can get some nice interest-free money from Citibank.


On the other hand, the AORers definitely kill the 0% no fee offerings, for those who actually need it, not for extra income, but need it to help paying down higher rate loans or whatever.

Interesting that you think a couple dozen or a couple hundred people "definitely" have shifted the policies of a 270 billion dollar company that is wildly profitable.

I think you give me too much credit. It is flattering none the less.

By the way, I'm also the reason why food costs so much. You see I buy a lot of food on sale and drive down the margins at the grocery store.

I'm probably responsible for global warming too. Ooops.

One other thing, if I buy a plasma TV and new car I can't afford and run up CC debt then I "need" no fee BTs? But if I'm a hard working person just trying to save a little extra for retirement and donate the rest to charity then I'm not deserving of the BTs?

It is opinions like yours that make me glad we are a free market society rather than a command economy where people like you can dictate what people "need".


On the phone now... Whoops, not any more! I just consolidated my PremierPass card onto my UPromise card. I wasn't interested in reallocating since the PP card won't show the CL on the reports. Less than 30 seconds once I got connected with an "Account Specialist".


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ext doesn't matter, I just told them I received the letter, and they just did it for me.




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