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faztcobra said:So just for clarification, I could take a AMEX BT check into BofA (my institution) and just write 'BofA' into the "pay to" line and then "for acct xxxx" and that's it?

From my little book of AMEX IN:NYC promotional checks:

"Checks made payable to cash, yourself, for deposit only, or to a brokerage account or similar asset account, or for purposes of making mortgage or insurance payments will be treated as Cash Advances"

I would be concerned that pay to BofA "for acct xxxx" could be considered 'for deposit only'. I wrote the check to my wife's name and deposited it into her checking account. She has a different last name, so there can be no confusion. I actually got a call from AMEX fraud dept asking me to confirm that I wrote the check.


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r0man said:faztcobra said:So just for clarification, I could take a AMEX BT check into BofA (my institution) and just write 'BofA' into the "pay to" line and then "for acct xxxx" and that's it?

From my little book of AMEX IN:NYC promotional checks:

"Checks made payable to cash, yourself, for deposit only, or to a brokerage account or similar asset account, or for purposes of making mortgage or insurance payments will be treated as Cash Advances"

I would be concerned that pay to BofA "for acct xxxx" could be considered 'for deposit only'. I wrote the check to my wife's name and deposited it into her checking account. She has a different last name, so there can be no confusion. I actually got a call from AMEX fraud dept asking me to confirm that I wrote the check.
YES, this is exactly the case with AMEX:

1) DO NOT WRITE THE CHECK TO YOUR BANK WITH ACCOUNT #
2) Do write the check to ANY other individual (they can even be a joint account holder with you and this is ok, i have done it)
3) Do call AMEX and tell them what you are doing. YOU WILL GET A FRAUD CALL WHEN WRITING A BIG CHECK TO ANOTHER PERSON IF YOU DO NOT CALL AND TELL THEM WHAT YOU ARE DOING BEFOREHAND!

Sorry for the caps, but this AMEX situation is very touchy and I don't want other's to screw it up and get a cash advance rate. I will update my OP with more of this AMEX info.


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I didn't see anything about Principal Bank on your summary, so I'll add my $0.02. I called them to request BT checks, but they've stopped sending any out. They offered to put the money straight into my checking account. It's not electronic, they're mailing my bank a check with my name/account number on it. I don't know if that's policy, or because I have a small, hometown bank. BoA did a direct deposit with no problems, so it may just be policy.


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1) DO NOT WRITE THE CHECK TO YOUR BANK WITH ACCOUNT #
2) Do write the check to ANY other individual (they can even be a joint account holder with you and this is ok, i have done it)
3) Do call AMEX and tell them what you are doing. YOU WILL GET A FRAUD CALL WHEN WRITING A BIG CHECK TO ANOTHER PERSON IF YOU DO NOT CALL AND TELL THEM WHAT YOU ARE DOING BEFOREHAND!

Would I be able to write the check to my Citi HELOC account?

Thanks,

Sammy


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sammy1224 said:Would I be able to write the check to my Citi HELOC account?Sammy, I would think this is not a good idea since your HELOC is in your name and that is pretty much the equivilant of writing a AMEX check to your checking account that is in your name. So I would say no, do not do it, it is too much risk. You can call AMEX and ask them if you want, but my two sense is no.

Barefool: As for principal, they have turned down me, my mom, and my dad all for excessive inquiries (my dad even applied to them first). They must get a delayed credit report or have some subsequent reporting method. Regardless, I have not gotten to the BT stage with them and have no advice to offer other than to call in and see what you can do. (Also, BOA is always great about consolidation and direct deposit, partly I think b/c thier reps get commissions based on BT's). From here on out, I have scratched Principal bank off any future AOR's.


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^^^You've got to be kidding. According to that thinking there would be no credit account that could be paid using an AMEX card.


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MikeR397 said:sammy1224 said:Would I be able to write the check to my Citi HELOC account?Sammy, I would think this is not a good idea since your HELOC is in your name and that is pretty much the equivilant of writing a AMEX check to your checking account that is in your name. So I would say no, do not do it, it is too much risk. You can call AMEX and ask them if you want, but my two sense is no.

Barefool: As for principal, they have turned down me, my mom, and my dad all for excessive inquiries (my dad even applied to them first). They must get a delayed credit report or have some subsequent reporting method. Regardless, I have not gotten to the BT stage with them and have no advice to offer other than to call in and see what you can do. (Also, BOA is always great about consolidation and direct deposit, partly I think b/c thier reps get commissions based on BT's). From here on out, I have scratched Principal bank off any future AOR's.

Actually, I made a 28.9k BT from my Chase HELOC to my AMEX IN:LA back in February, and had absolutely no problems. It took about 1.5 weeks. I used the 15 digits HELOC account number, not even a 16-digit debit card number over the HELOC.


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barefool said:I didn't see anything about Principal Bank on your summary, so I'll add my $0.02. I called them to request BT checks, but they've stopped sending any out. They offered to put the money straight into my checking account. It's not electronic, they're mailing my bank a check with my name/account number on it. I don't know if that's policy, or because I have a small, hometown bank. BoA did a direct deposit with no problems, so it may just be policy.

Principal sent me blank BT checks about 6 weeks after my application. I didn't request them.

Message edited by: lhendricks92 on 2007-07-30 13:22:00 CDT
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dragoon976 said:Actually, I made a 28.9k BT from my Chase HELOC to my AMEX IN:LA back in February, and had absolutely no problems. It took about 1.5 weeks. I used the 15 digits HELOC account number, not even a 16-digit debit card number over the HELOC.
I'm not surprised it worked ... though it still may be against AMEX terms (if HELOC is a "mortgage").


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In my mini AppORama, I applied for a BankOfAmerica Platinum Plus and a Chase card among other cards.

I was able to get 12K BT'd from BofA credit card to my checking account with BofA. I have a total limit of 15K. The money is in my checking account now.

I also have a 13K limit on my Chase card. I have tried all the options for BT - using the convenience check that came with the card, it seems that it will be considered as Cash Advance. Then, I asked them to BT 11.5K to my debit card. I told them it is a secured credit card. They were not able to do so as their system did not allow them to do so.

So now, I have come up with the following plan. I will have Chase BT 11.5K to my BofA credit card. So, it will be like I paid BofA some of their money back. Then again I will have BofA credit card account transfer 11.5K to my checking account.

Is this doable?

Thanks.


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neednowallet said:In my mini AppORama, I applied for a BankOfAmerica Platinum Plus and a Chase card among other cards.

I was able to get 12K BT'd from BofA credit card to my checking account with BofA. I have a total limit of 15K. The money is in my checking account now.

I also have a 13K limit on my Chase card. I have tried all the options for BT - using the convenience check that came with the card, it seems that it will be considered as Cash Advance. Then, I asked them to BT 11.5K to my debit card. I told them it is a secured credit card. They were not able to do so as their system did not allow them to do so.

So now, I have come up with the following plan. I will have Chase BT 11.5K to my BofA credit card. So, it will be like I paid BofA some of their money back. Then again I will have BofA credit card account transfer 11.5K to my checking account.

Is this doable?

Thanks.
Yes, this is an option (see point number five in the OP, also notice I did this exact thing with GE money). However, call Chase again. Thier included check is a BT check even if you write it to yourself. Makesure you get someone's name/number when you verify this, but my guess is a CSR gave you misinformation. You should not have to waste your time laundering the $ through BOA.

Message edited by: MikeR397 on 2007-07-31 19:57:03 CDT
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MikeR397 said:The AMEX: IN:New York , IN: Chicago , and IN: LA all have 6 month 0% BT with no fees. I used the online CLI and went from 3.2k to 10.2k (only asked for 10.2 first time) and on second card when from 2.6k to 24.9k just like that! (reported HHI was 220k though, this appears to be AMEX's main criterion when deciding on CLI)

How much did you ask for on the 2nd card? In my experience, I was issued an initial line of 11.9k, asked for $35k believing it would likely approve closer to $25k. WHAMMY! "Congratulations. You have been approved for $35,000." Point being, I should have asked for $1,000,000 rather than a paltry $35,000!!

I called AMX to request BT checks to "pay my brother the money I owe him." After placing me on a brief hold while he checked my account, the first rep said "I could send you checks but they would not be BT 0% rather treated like a standard purchase." No thanks I said. He then offered info that aftr 90 days of being open, offers of 0% checks are often available. After confirming MikeR397's experience posted in this thread, I called back and spoke with Joy 3 minutes later @ 6:31 pm (her rep number 49421). She said she would send promo checks to my address on file. She explained they'd be good for VISA, M/C, Individuals all at the promo rate. Not good for myself, brokerage houses, online gaming, etc.


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lhendricks92 said:barefool said:I didn't see anything about Principal Bank on your summary, so I'll add my $0.02. I called them to request BT checks, but they've stopped sending any out. They offered to put the money straight into my checking account. It's not electronic, they're mailing my bank a check with my name/account number on it. I don't know if that's policy, or because I have a small, hometown bank. BoA did a direct deposit with no problems, so it may just be policy.

Principal sent me blank BT checks about 6 weeks after my application. I didn't request them.


I'm seconding barefool's experience. I called PRICIPAL (1-877-875-8078) to request a BT yesterday (Sunday) and they said they "no longer send checks". Since I don't want to wait 6 weeks for checks per lhendricks92's experience, I had them send $9600 (69% utilization) to my existing Citi Platinum Dividend Select card for eventual credit balance refund.


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jackcrawfish said:MikeR397 said:The AMEX: IN:New York , IN: Chicago , and IN: LA all have 6 month 0% BT with no fees. I used the online CLI and went from 3.2k to 10.2k (only asked for 10.2 first time) and on second card when from 2.6k to 24.9k just like that! (reported HHI was 220k though, this appears to be AMEX's main criterion when deciding on CLI)

How much did you ask for on the 2nd card? In my experience, I was issued an initial line of 11.9k, asked for $35k believing it would likely approve closer to $25k. WHAMMY! "Congratulations. You have been approved for $35,000." Point being, I should have asked for $1,000,000 rather than a paltry $35,000!!

I called AMX to request BT checks to "pay my brother the money I owe him." After placing me on a brief hold while he checked my account, the first rep said "I could send you checks but they would not be BT 0% rather treated like a standard purchase." No thanks I said. He then offered info that aftr 90 days of being open, offers of 0% checks are often available. After confirming MikeR397's experience posted in this thread, I called back and spoke with Joy 3 minutes later @ 6:31 pm (her rep number 49421). She said she would send promo checks to my address on file. She explained they'd be good for VISA, M/C, Individuals all at the promo rate. Not good for myself, brokerage houses, online gaming, etc.
I am sure you could milk the AMEX CLI button for a lot more than we are doing, however, be aware that anytime you hit 25k CL on a single card with them (be it CLI or consolidation), the chances of an FR seem to skyrocket. This is why I played it safe(r) with 24.9k as I'm not sure they will like a law student having over 40k of credit with them and putting down his family's HHI, not his own. If you can prove your income and arn't worried about it, sure shoot for the sky with the CLI. The worst they would do likely is just lower your CL (but they still shouldn't be able to make you pay back the BT prematurely if you already got it deposited).

Message edited by: MikeR397 on 2007-08-06 08:53:59 CDT
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good info. thanks!

Mitch007
"If you got rum, I got room."


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Data Point regarding BofA. I just got the Iowa World Points card (for the 25,000 free points/$250).

Upon reading T&C NOTICE OF FUTURE CHANGES TO YOUR NEW CREDIT CARD AGREEMENT. They are restructuring the definition of BT, Cash Advance or Purchase. As of Nov. 10, 2007, a Cash Advance includes:
"by transfer of funds to a deposit account initated by us at your request ("Direct Deposit"). A Direct Deposit does not include an Overdraft Protection Cash Advance or a same day online funds transfer.

They also define BT: "Balance Transfer" means a transfer of funds to another creditor initiated by us at your request.

I do not know if this is going to apply to all BofA cards. In the past, I have successfully had BoA directly ACH a BT to my BoA checking account, as a BT. As I read their soon to be instated policy, such action will now be viewed as a Cash Advance.

Has anyone else received this pamphlet stating this change as it applies to other BoA cards? It was a snap before to get a BT to cash with BoA. Guess they caught on.


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rainman01 said:Just found out that Citibank credit cards have an ONLINE option to request for a credit balance refund. As others have suggested in another thread, it is possible to BT from a CC that requires transfer to another credit card to BT to a Citibank credit card. Has anyone tried this? I'm wondering how long it takes to get the credit refund and also what is the largest refund they would issue without raising flags? Thanks!

To follow up on my earlier post, I got the $22K check (on $4K line) from citibank 1 month after I requested the refund. Details here.


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lippyroa said:BoA - Will Direct Deposit into a Checking Account using Routing & account numbers. They informed me, they will NOT direct deposit into a Savings account.

They did a BT for me into savings.

Message edited by: searcherz on 2007-08-09 23:36:57 CDT
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Can I direct deposit into USAA account or does it have to be a BOA checking?

thanks!


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r0man said:rainman01 said:Just found out that Citibank credit cards have an ONLINE option to request for a credit balance refund. As others have suggested in another thread, it is possible to BT from a CC that requires transfer to another credit card to BT to a Citibank credit card. Has anyone tried this? I'm wondering how long it takes to get the credit refund and also what is the largest refund they would issue without raising flags? Thanks!

To follow up on my earlier post, I got the $22K check (on $4K line) from citibank 1 month after I requested the refund. Details here.

And props to you for pointing someone to the information!

*I'm not just saying that because I started that thread! LOL!*


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