UPDATE: Part 2 now Underway. Check it out here:
Thisguy's 2-part AOR - Part 2 - Planning Kickoff 10/15/07
Thanks to everyone who helped out with the first round of apps in my wife's name. I completed them this morning 35 apps in about 3.5 hours. She did one by phone. Most were deferred for now with a few acceptances. I am going to update the post with the results and will continue to update as more info comes in. Some of my links needed to be updated so I will try to do that as well. So far approvals have resulted in pretty good credit lines so I am hoping this will be very successful. Can't wait to start on round two.
In order to keep the current organization by issuer, I will be putting a number in front of each card to denote the order in which I applied for them and I will fill in results under each entry.
Some stats:
Business Applications Submitted: 16
Total Applications Submitted: 34
Instant Business Approvals: 1
Total Instant Approvals: 5
Total Business Approvals: 14/16 (Final)
Total Approvals: 28 / 34 (Final)
Total Instant Business Approval Lines: $10K
Total Instant Approval Lines: $85K
Total New Business Lines: $284.7K+
Total New Lines: $535.7K+
Running Total of all available lines: $706,770
+ mine currently ($315.7) ==> $1,022,470 Household
Thanks again!
Original Post with Updates (7/5/07):
Hi all,
I am getting ready to kick of a two staged AOR
Round one: My Wife
Round two: Me
This is basically our second big AOR. Our first big one was a year and some months ago and then we did a mini-AOR about 8 months or so ago to re-up.
Our goal is to get more 0% money to replace the money we’ve had to pay back as the previous offers expired and pick up some bonuses along the way where possible.
We are trying to hit up as many as possible while staying within the maximum number of applications per lender.
I would love feedback on the plan and or any great offers that I may have overlooked. My wife will be applying first since I have paid off most of her balances and then with the new cash infusion we will pay down some of mine to make my credit profile juicy and attractive. I will focus first on my wife’s scenario.
HHI: $140K
AGE: early 30s
School loan (wife’s name only) $55K
Credit Scores (TU(inquiries) / EXP(inquiries) / EQ(inquiries)) : 779(1) / 767(3) /759(13) (6/11/07)
See below for credit score impact and resulting inquiries
We do have a mortgage but it is in my name only
Mortgage (my name only) 3rd year of 30 balance = $227K
Wife’s Existing lines:
Personal:
Card Name / Age years / Balance / Credit Limit / Utilization
WAMU Visa / 1 / 0 / $30K / 0.0%
Discover / 14.4 / 0 / $6K / 0.0%
ATT Univ. Rewards / 1.2 / 13769 / $28.3K / 48.56%
BoA World Points / 5 / 0 / $1K / 0.0%
BoA Platinum Visa / 5.2 / 10590 / $21.4K / 49.49%
Chase / 3 / 0 / $1K / 0.0%
Chase / 3 / 0 / $1K / 0.0%
Chase / 4 / 0 / $1K / 0.0%
Chase / 2 / 0 / $54.4K / 0.0%
Chase Amazon / 4 / 0 / $4.6K / 0.0%
Capital One Platinum / 1 / 0 / $12K / 0.0%
USAA Plat Cash Rwrd/ 1 / 0 / $25K / 0.0%
USAA Plat Cash Rwrd/ 1 / 0 / $34K / 0.0%
Citi Diamond Rewards/ 1 / 0 / $500 / 0.0%
Citi Platinum Select / 3 / 0 / $770 / 0.0%
AMEX Blue Cash / 4 / 0 / $20K / 0.0%
Business:
Advanta Plat Business / 1 / 7550 / $10K / 75.5%
Other:
Victoria’s Secret / 6 / 0 / $1K / 0.0%
No other debt
Total available lines: $251,970
Total balance: $31,919
Total Utilization: 12.67%
Planned applications:
AMX 2-max Bus 2-max Pers
25> AmexIn:Chicago 6mo 0% NBTF
Approved 7/10/07 - $2K limit
26> Starwood Preferred Guest Business 15K SPG Points
Instant Approval $10K When card arrived credit line was $50,700!!!!
DNA> Simply Cash Bus 0% purchases for 12 mo
Did not apply since 0% is on purchases only
27> Gold Deltaa Sky Miles Business 15K Miles
Approved 7/4/07 - $22,500
33> HHonors AMX targeted offer
Instant Approval $10K - CLI to $24,500 7/14/07
36> USAA AMX targeted offer 12mo 0% NBTF
Phone Application - Instant Approval $25K
Consolidated part of credit from other accounts to reach $60K and did a $30K BT
Bank of America 2-max
7> BOA platinum 0% for 12mo NBTF
Approved - $30K
8> BOA Business Visa Platinum 0% for 12mo NBTF
Approved - $25K Limit
Closed - combined with business power rewards visa for total $50K Limit
9> BOA Business Power Rewards 0% for 9mo 3%BT fee no cap :(
Approved - $25K Limit
10> NEA World Points 0% for 12mo $30Fee
Approved 7/22/07 - $2500 Limit
HCBC 2-max
DNA> Mastercard after prequal 6-12 mo 0% $75 fee
Did Not Apply - Concerns about multiple HSBC cards /apps
DNA> Targeted offer Orchard Bank 2% CB 400max/yr 0%6mo 5% fee
Did Not Apply - Pre-Qual offered only a card with an annual fee of $39
Juniper 2-max
11> Bank Atlantic Business 0% 15 mo $75 fee
Deferred
Approved 7/21/07 - $40K limit !!
21> National Parks 0% 12 mo max 50
Approved 7/5/07 - $5K
20> US Air 6mo 0% max 50 5-10K miles
Approved 7/5/07 - $20K
WAMU
30> WAMU ESPN 0% 6mo NBTF
Instant Approval $10K - BT with application for $9,500. Will attempt to reallocate from existing WAMU line to raise limit and possibly add to BT
Chase 2 bus, 2 pers
1> Chase Home Improvement / 0%, 12 months, $75 fee
Deferred
Approved 7/27/07 - $1K Limit
2> Chase Business Rebate Visa / 0%, 12 months, $75 fee
Deferred
Approved 7/21/07 - $10K Limit
3> Chase Business Mariott / 20K Mariott Points, free night, first year free
Deferred
Approved 7/21/07 - $25K limit
4> Chase Personal Mariott 20K free night first year free
Deferred
Approved 7/27/07 - $20K limit
Citi limit 2 personal 2 bus, affiliates don’t count
5> Citi Upromise 0% 12 months NBTF
Deferred
Declined - oustanding balance with another creditor high compared to CL. None were over 50%. Still negotiating they said they need another credit report and it's too late now ![]()
12> Citi Prof 0% 12mo NFBT +$15KTY
Deferred
Declined - oustanding balance with another creditor high compared to CL. None were over 50%.Probably won't argue this since we could apply again another time and use referral which I forgot to use this time
13> Citi Business 0% 12mo NTBF 15K TY points
Approved 7/5/07 - $20K Limit
14> Citi Bus AA $75 after 1st year 20K miles with $750 purchases in 4 mo
Approved 7/21/07 - $8K Limit
15> Citi AA $75 after 1st year 20K miles with $250 purchases in 4 mo
Deferred
Declined - too many apps
16> Citi Hilton 15K miles no fee
Instant Approval $25K
17> Citi Business PremierPass 0% 12mo NBTF $75 after first year 15K TY points
Approved 7/14/07 - $7500 Limit
18> Citi premier pass elite 0% 12 months nbtf $75 after first year 15K TY
Declined - too many applications
Discover
22> Discover Miles 0% for 12mo max $75
Approved 7/12/07 - $8K limit
23> Discover business 0% for 12 months NBTF with application
Approved 7/11/07 - $6K limit
Pulaski Bank
DNA> Pulaski Visa Gold 0%6mo NBTF
Did Not Apply - Feedback made me think it wasn't worth it
Capital One
34> Preferred no Hassle Miles Business 0% 12mo NBTF?
Approved - $7K
35> Visa Business Platinum No Hassle Cash 0% 12mo NBTF?
Declined - Application for other card already in progress. Must only be allowed one bus app at a time
Others
24> RBS Kroger 1-2-3 0%/12mo/2% fee up to $60
Declined pending verification - must call
Approved 7/21/07 - $7K Limit
DNA> **--Out for Now--**State Farm Good Neighbor Visa: LINK 0%/9mo/no fee (apply for BT within 30 days)
Did Not Apply - Feedback made me think it wasn't worth it
31> M&T Bank - Business Card / 0%, 6 months, no bt fee
Approved - $10K Limit - BT $9,500 in progress
28> National City Visa Business / 0%, 6 months, no bt fee + 5K points
Deferred - They faxed me an application that my wife had to sign and date and return. Request $50K line
Approved - $9K Limit - Called to request CLI to $25K they upped it to $35K
29> National City Visa Personal / 0%, 6 months, no bt fee + 5K points
Approved - $14K Limit
37> Old Navy card - We've wanted one since all the coupons require using one. This was a late entrant.
Had to call to verify information still outstanding the mentioned they only allow $300 limit?
Looks like this is run by GE Money. Got another letter stating that they could still not verify information even after we called and provided all requested info
Declined - "Could not verify information" I'm not going to waste any more time on this one
32> Principal 12mo 0% max 75 or if that link doesn't work Try this one
Approved $15K
TrueCredit Credit Scores before and After
Credit Scores (TU(inquiries) / EXP(inquiries) / EQ(inquiries)) : 779(1) / 767(3) /759(13) (6/11/07)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 779(1) / 767(3) / 767(13) (7/2/07 - Date of applications)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 765(9) / 759(7) / 741(24) (7/3/07)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 768(7) / 759(7) / 741(24) (7/4/07)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 766(8) / 759(7) / 738(25) (7/5/07)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 765(9) / 759(7) / 738(25) (7/6/07)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 766(8) / 759(7) / 738(25) (7/7/07)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 765(9) / 759(7) / 738(25) (7/8/07)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 765(9) / 759(7) / 738(25) (7/9/07)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 762(10) / 752(7) / 717(26) (7/17/07)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 765(9) / 744(7) / 717(26) (7/18/07)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 736(10) / 734(7) / 688(26) (7/19/07) (new accounts and one BT beginning to show
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 736(10) / 722(7) / 688(26) (7/21/07)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 722(10) / 722(7) / 688(26) (7/23/07)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 718(10) / 707(7) / 689(26) (7/26/07)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 708(10) / 707(7) / 684(26) (7/27/07) (showing $145K in debt ~ $90K BT)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 701(10) / 697(7) / 684(26) (8/1/07) (showing $145K in debt ~ $90K BT)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 703(9) / 697(7) / 684(26) (8/3/07) (showing $145K in debt ~ $90K BT)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 694(9) / 697(7) / 677(26) (8/8/07) (showing $165K in debt ~ $111K BT)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 694(9) / 697(7) / 684(26) (8/18/07) (showing $165K in debt ~ $111K BT)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 694(9) / 697(7) / 691(23) (8/20/07) (showing $165K in debt ~ $111K BT)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 690(9) / 688(7) / 693(19) (8/22/07) (showing $175K - 193K in debt ~ $121K - 139K BT)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 698(7) / 685(7) / 699(17) (8/23/07) (showing $175K - 203K in debt ~ $125K - 153K BT)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 700(4) / 685(7) / 701(15) (8/26/07) (showing $203K - 214K in debt ~ $153K - 164K BT)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 701(4) / 685(7) / 706(13) (8/30/07) (showing $203K - 214K in debt ~ $153K - 164K BT)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 701(4) / 685(7) / 710(13) (8/31/07) (showing $203K - 214K in debt ~ $153K - 164K BT)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 708(1) / 685(7) / 710(13) (9/4/07) (showing $203K - 214K in debt ~ $153K - 164K BT)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 706(2) / 685(7) / 709(13) (9/8/07) (showing $203K - 214K in debt ~ $153K - 164K BT)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 706(2) / 685(7) / 709(13) (9/11/07) (showing $203K in debt ~ $153K - 164K BT)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 708(1) / 685(7) / 715(11) (9/26/07) (showing $190K in debt ~ $140K BT)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 708(1) / 685(7) / 720(9) (9/27/07) (showing $190K in debt ~ $140K BT)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 708(1) / 685(7) / 723(8) (9/30/07) (showing $190K in debt ~ $140K BT)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 715(1) / 691(7) / 728(6) (10/1/07) (showing $190K-224K in debt ~ $140K-174K BT) Not sure why the jump in balance on Exp and corresponding score increase??
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 715(1) / 691(7) / 733(4) (10/3/07) (showing $190K-224K in debt ~ $140K-174K BT)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 715(1) / 691(7) / 737(2) (10/4/07) (showing $190K-224K in debt ~ $140K-174K BT)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 715(1) / 691(7) / 743(1) (10/7/07) (showing $190K-224K in debt ~ $140K-174K BT)
Credit Scores (TU / EXP / EQ) : 715(1) / 691(7) / 743(1) (10/14/07) (showing 224K in debt ~ 174K BT)
Resulting AOR Inquiries:
Creditor Name Date of Inquiry Credit Bureau
FIA CSNA 07/17/2007 TransUnion
CITIBANKNA 07/16/2007 Equifax (savings account app to open with CC - fee is OK if charged it is a calculated risk)
NCBK-NCCS 07/06/2007 TransUnion
GEMB/OLDNY 07/04/2007 Equifax
AMEX 07/03/2007 TransUnion
CAPITAL ONE BANK 07/02/2007 Experian
BANK OF AMERICA 07/02/2007 Experian
INFIBANK 07/02/2007 Experian
AMEX 07/02/2007 Experian
FIRST USA 07/02/2007 Equifax
CHASE 07/02/2007 Equifax
CITI 07/02/2007 Equifax
FIA CSNA 07/02/2007 Equifax
CITI USA 07/02/2007 Equifax
CBUSA/CBSD 07/02/2007 Equifax
CITI 07/02/2007 Equifax
KROGER 07/02/2007 Equifax
CAPONEBANK 07/02/2007 Equifax
ELANFINSVC 07/02/2007 Equifax
USAA SB 07/02/2007 Equifax
GEMB/OLD NAV 07/02/2007 TransUnion
I’ve put a lot of work and research into this so far but now I am hoping for feedback on the proposal. I’m sure you guys and gals have some great ideas, other don’t miss deals, or thoughts that will help this be a successful AOR. I will be travelling for the next couple of days so I will update / respond in about a week. I am looking to launch this AOR as soon as the credit report shows the current balances with <50% utilization.
Thanks in advance for your help!!
Thisguy


