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craig10x
- Senior Member - 3K
posted: Jun. 23, 2007 @ 9:06a
and (besides ways of doing all those ach debits easily) what exactly do they consider to be an auto-debit? would any monthly transfer to an outside bank by ach be considered one?
Or would only a bill paying type auto-debit work (such as when you set up for your cable company to automatically pay your bill with your credit or debit card)????
Or, if you wanted to do direct deposit instead of auto-debit....how would you know if any bank ach transfer i would count? (perhaps only real DD would work with them)? |
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DavidScubadiver
- Frivolous Member
posted: Jun. 23, 2007 @ 9:40a
SUCKISSTAPLES said:I dont understand why all the hype???
there are DOZENS of these "reward checking" accounts out now that pay 6% and have ATM refunds, require checkcard usage, etc. It seems they all got the memo from some banking consultant to start offering this.
The bankdeals blog and credituniondeals.com mention several places offering this same basic product.There may be tons of these bank deals but they invariably require you to go to a branch in some other state to open them. Or they are not available to out of staters period. Believe me, I've tried and gotten many a letter apologizing for the inconvenience. This one does not have the restriction. |
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DavidScubadiver
- Frivolous Member
posted: Jun. 23, 2007 @ 9:42a
For me, 10 debit card transactions is a no-braineir as my office cafeteria takes credit cards and I eat lunch every day. |
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DavidScubadiver
- Frivolous Member
posted: Jun. 23, 2007 @ 9:58a
remmymom said:3.5 stars from bauer. would anyone put mroe than the insured amount in this?Make it a POD account and name your mom, dad, brother or sister, or children and grandchildren and you get $100k in insurance for each living beneficiary. That should cover most of us! |
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glxpass
- Senior Member - 3K
posted: Jun. 23, 2007 @ 12:57p
A couple of other things I learned from the pleasant CSR I spoke with:
1. I already mentioned the hard pull.
2. The statement cycle runs from the 16th to the 15th, so time your transactions (to meet the check card requirement and ACH or DD requirement) appropriately.
3. Their toll-free number (it was previous in-state only, but the CSR said it should work out-of-state now too -- it does, at least from California) is: 1-877-484-5725. Of course, I found out about this after a lengthy phone conversation.
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remmymom
- Senior Member
posted: Jun. 24, 2007 @ 9:18a
"Make it a POD account and name your mom, dad, brother or sister, or children and grandchildren and you get $100k in insurance for each living beneficiary. That should cover most of us! " ----------------------------------- not me unless i can do it for pets  |
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DavidScubadiver
- Frivolous Member
posted: Jun. 24, 2007 @ 9:18a
The bill pay service they have is not free -- 3 bucks a month plus 30 cents per transaction up to three. But if you pay 4 bills or more a month, the service is free. It is a nice interface allowing you to sign up for E-bills and to pay multiple bills all from one page (you must make payments 4 business days in advance of due date). Meeting the 3 bills a month can be pretty tough especially if you're already automating bill-pay by authorizing direct-debit from this or any other account.
It looks like they may not offer a way to "link" outside bank accounts (like SalemFive in that respect), but I've not confirmed that -- just did not appear to be an option in reviewing their internet banking demo here. Personally, I can't wait to get my form to notarize and I hope this bank keeps their rates up -- though I don't have high hopes in that regard considering their posted savings and cd rates are pretty awful. |
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DavidScubadiver
- Frivolous Member
posted: Jun. 24, 2007 @ 9:21a
remmymom said:"Make it a POD account and name your mom, dad, brother or sister, or children and grandchildren and you get $100k in insurance for each living beneficiary. That should cover most of us! " ----------------------------------- not me unless i can do it for pets Unfortunately, pets do not count. Only your spouse, child, grandchild, parent or sibling. (In-laws, cousins, nieces and nephews do not count). But even if its just you, $100k is a nice chunk of change to earn 6.01% on in a checking account! |
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craig10x
- Senior Member - 3K
posted: Jun. 24, 2007 @ 9:42a
I see from the demo that they use Fundsxpress for their online banking interface....my bank uses the same interface, which recently was re-designed and is a terrific one (i like it even better the boa's which up to then was my favorite online banking)....Fundsxpress usually includes external bank transfer capabilities (it does with my bank), so it may well have it...you should call or e-mail them and check about that.
Fundsxpress is also in "real time" similiar to BOA, and is usually linked to the superior "checkfree" bill pay...
PS: that is a point i always wonder about all these "Rewards Checking" type products...since most of the banks that offer them have mostly very low rates on all their other products, it does kind of make you wonder how long they will maintain the super high rate of 6%.....
Otherwise seems like a very good deal...especially with the fundsxpress interface....other then the ol' pain in the neck 10 debit card transaction requirement.... |
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DavidScubadiver
- Frivolous Member
posted: Jun. 24, 2007 @ 10:22a
craig10x said:I see from the demo that they use Fundsxpress for their online banking interface....my bank uses the same interface, which recently was re-designed and is a terrific one (i like it even better the boa's which up to then was my favorite online banking)....Fundsxpress usually includes external bank transfer capabilities (it does with my bank), so it may well have it...you should call or e-mail them and check about that.
Fundsxpress is also in "real time" similiar to BOA, and is usually linked to the superior "checkfree" bill pay...
PS: that is a point i always wonder about all these "Rewards Checking" type products...since most of the banks that offer them have mostly very low rates on all their other products, it does kind of make you wonder how long they will maintain the super high rate of 6%.....
Otherwise seems like a very good deal...especially with the fundsxpress interface....other then the ol' pain in the neck 10 debit card transaction requirement....I bank primarily with first internet bank of indiana and have done so for years and years. They use the same bill-pay interface, but only relatively recently let you link external accounts and do so only with restrictions (i.e., 25k monthly limits and $5.00 fee for outgoing transfers. In reading Toledo's terms and conditions it only refers to accounts at their institution and makes no refernce to external links, but its no big deal. I am happy to initiate pulls from outside or to write a check if need be.  |
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DaveHanson
- Senior Member - 6K
posted: Jun. 24, 2007 @ 12:50p
DavidScubadiver said:I bank primarily with first internet bank of indiana...but only relatively recently let you link external accounts and do so only with restrictions (i.e., 25k monthly limits and $5.00 fee for outgoing transfers.It isn't recent, they've done it for several years (I've used mine for 5 years), and you can get the monthly and limits massively increased by calling and asking.
The $5 out is a bummer, and its interest rates are mediocre, but other that that it's tough to beat. |
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DavidScubadiver
- Frivolous Member
posted: Jun. 24, 2007 @ 1:05p
DaveHanson said:DavidScubadiver said:I bank primarily with first internet bank of indiana...but only relatively recently let you link external accounts and do so only with restrictions (i.e., 25k monthly limits and $5.00 fee for outgoing transfers.It isn't recent, they've done it for several years (I've used mine for 5 years), and you can get the monthly and limits massively increased by calling and asking.
The $5 out is a bummer, and its interest rates are mediocre, but other that that it's tough to beat.Tough to beat unless this Bank of Toledo pans out! Good to know FIB's monthly limits can be adjusted. Should have thought to ask myself! |
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DavidScubadiver
- Frivolous Member
posted: Jun. 25, 2007 @ 10:31a
I see that 6 of their 19 employees are part-time (5 part-time tellers and 1 part-time bookkeeper). I'm thinking it will take a while for them to get the accounts set-up. But I have nonetheless E-mailed their president with a series of questions which should be of general interest -- when I get a response, I will post the Q/As. |
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DamnoIT
- Senior Member - 4K
posted: Jun. 25, 2007 @ 11:03a
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dolmar
- Senior Member - 4K
posted: Jun. 25, 2007 @ 11:49a
craig10x said:Fundsxpress is also in "real time" similiar to BOA, and is usually linked to the superior "checkfree" bill pay....
Wow more made up facts you post. Fundsxpress offers a full turn key online banking solution to banks which includes the following from then own web page "Bill Payment and Presentment". Here is a pic of there interface which also includes E-Bills like BOA. As a matter of fact E-Bills is offered by both Checkfree and Metavante the 2 largest online bill payment processors around so just because 1 site offers E-Bills does not mean it using checkfree back end.
Just like Checkfree and Metavante they offer both "good funds" model or a "float model" as there bill payment options to banks. The only way to tell if a bank uses Checkfree over another processor for sure is if they have "Powered By Checkfree Logo" on there web page or are listed on Checkfree Master list of clients found here.
Just for your information Bank of Toledo is not listed on Checkfree list of partners but tons of small banks are listed. So it is not a mistake |
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DavidScubadiver
- Frivolous Member
posted: Jun. 25, 2007 @ 12:28p
dolmar said:craig10x said:Fundsxpress is also in "real time" similiar to BOA, and is usually linked to the superior "checkfree" bill pay....
Wow more made up facts you post. Fundsxpress offers a full turn key online banking solution to banks which includes the following from then own web page "Bill Payment and Presentment". Here is a pic of there interface which also includes E-Bills like BOA. As a matter of fact E-Bills is offered by both Checkfree and Metavante the 2 largest online bill payment processors around so just because 1 site offers E-Bills does not mean it using checkfree back end.
Just like Checkfree and Metavante they offer both "good funds" model or a "float model" as there bill payment options to banks. The only way to tell if a bank uses Checkfree over another processor for sure is if they have "Powered By Checkfree Logo" on there web page or are listed on Checkfree Master list of clients found here.
Just for your information Bank of Toledo is not listed on Checkfree list of partners but tons of small banks are listed. So it is not a mistakeI suppose that is helpful information. However, bill pay is not really a significant feature on a checking account paying 6.01%. Its an added perk, but not really necessary IMHO. Especially since they require one to schedule a payment 4 business days in advance, I would not do that with any cc bill in any event, as they let one schedule payments from a linked account on the day the payment is due. The real question is, will they actually process account applications from out-of-towners, or will they send a letter apologizing for the inconvenience and advise at that time that the account is only open to locals.
Still can't figure out why a bank would want to discriminate on the basis of geography. Money is money, is it not? |
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Grobe
- Senior Member
posted: Jun. 25, 2007 @ 3:36p
DavidScubadiver said:Still can't figure out why a bank would want to discriminate on the basis of geography. Money is money, is it not?
This type deal is only profitable to the bank under a limited number of circumstances. The bank is reimbursed by Visa or MC for each debit transaction. So to be profitable these reimbursements must be greater than the extra interest paid. So if local customers are averaging 15 debit transactions with an average checking account balance of $3,000 it could well be profitable (along with the additional loan/mortgage sales to these customers). But non-local customers doing the minimum 10 debit transactions and having an average bank balance of $50,000 plus are very likely unprofitable.
So I am thinking this deal will shortly be withdrawn or greatly modified. |
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craig10x
- Senior Member - 3K
posted: Jun. 25, 2007 @ 3:52p
dolmar, you better stop calling me a lier, or you will be reported to the moderators....i hope you admirers of dolmar are realizing what a vicious and egotistical person he is....and will take his comments with a rather large grain of salt....
I tried to provide some helpful information..i didn't say i knew for a fact that this particular bank uses checkfree...but i do know that fundsxpress is a real time interface, and that often, banks that use their interface are also connected with checkfree bill pay....i did suggest people interested in the account, and want to use those features, should check with the bank to find out for sure.... |
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DavidScubadiver
- Frivolous Member
posted: Jun. 25, 2007 @ 8:23p
Cut it out you two. Your posts are so far off topic as to be well-suited for a different thread. Now go try and open an account with Bank of Toledo and report back when they either tell you its not available to out of towners, or when they accept your application! |
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scripta
- Senior Member - 1K
posted: Jun. 26, 2007 @ 3:33a
If should be apparent to the subscribers of this thread -- it is being very actively watched. Some of the posts were actually on topic. Much like this one. The readers should know they're being watched, and any attempt to voice their opinion will be suppressed. |
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