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DavidScubadiver
- Frivolous Member
posted: Jul. 5, 2007 @ 3:33p
retire35 said:Will this bank be able to handle paying out large sums of interest? According to Bankrate :
"For the three months ended March 31, 2007, the bank recorded net income of $135.00 thousand"
I see the terms of the deal changed by the end of summer, removing out-of-state clients.I will let you know, but I suspect they have the ability to make interest payments as advertised, though you may very well be correct and the rate may be short-lived. I seriously doubt they will "kick out" anybody who is already in, which is why I was so quick to apply. But I can see the rate dropping or a "cap" being placed on the balances earning the higher rate. I'd be unhappy if they limited the rate, but in truth, if it were limited to 25,000 I'd still use the account as my primary checking account.
Founded in 1927, STATE BANK OF TOLEDO, THE is a state-chartered commercial bank, which, as of March 31, 2007, reported $87.6220 million in total assets. At that date, loans and deposits held by the bank amounted to $61.4140 million and $70.5630 million respectively. Net worth, the difference between total assets and total bank liabilities, was determined to have been $6.9010 million which was 7.88% of total assets, as of March 31, 2007. For the three months ended March 31, 2007, the bank recorded net income of $135.00 thousand which represented a return on average assets (ROA) of 0.62%. Year earlier first quarter results amount to a net profit of $305.00 thousand, or a 1.50% annualized ROA. An ROA of at least 1.0% is deemed satisfactory in accordance with banking industry standards. The industry ROA for the first quarter of 2007 approximated 1.3%. |
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GroveStreetOG
- Senior Member
posted: Jul. 5, 2007 @ 3:43p
76hhma said:Debit transactions: It is more controllable to do PIN-based debit transactions (if counted toward the required ten transactions) in terms of timing (ensuring they fall within the current-month period) and amount (immeidiate debit of exact amount).
Account open: It is best to open the account right after the closing date (say the 15th), thus one gets a free-ride for one full months without the ACH/debit requirements.
Auto-deposit/debit: It has to be initiated from other parties (not from the local billpay); e.g., utility bills, direct deposit, (say) GMAC-deposit/debit, etc.
Practice: Start small with a few hundred dollars and push in big money only until one gets fully familiarized with the banks' rules and regulations on the ten transactions/auto debit-credit requirements. It is not funny to end up earning 0.25% interest rate for the month
Hope this helps. Good idea about practice, but check on the amount required to earn interest, I think it has to be $1000. If you don't put in enough money to meet the threshold, you lose a little interest, of course, but perhaps more importantly you also lose the benefit of the practice.
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76hhma
- Senior Member - 10K
posted: Jul. 5, 2007 @ 3:53p
GroveStreetOG said:
Good idea about practice, but check on the amount required to earn interest, I think it has to be $1000. If you don't put in enough money to meet the threshold, you lose a little interest, of course, but perhaps more importantly you also lose the benefit of the practice. I thought it was $100 minimum initial deposit to earn 6.01% interest and no general minimum balance requirement (similar to Danversbank)? David, please confirm if possible? |
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DavidScubadiver
- Frivolous Member
posted: Jul. 5, 2007 @ 3:59p
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GroveStreetOG
- Senior Member
posted: Jul. 5, 2007 @ 4:19p
I was wrong. I saw the $1000 provision in "Hometown Advantage checking" and thought I had seen in in "Hometown Rewards checking" |
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mariojm
- Senior Member - 2K
posted: Jul. 5, 2007 @ 7:24p
I'll explain the details of my reward checking at a local credit union; not sure if and how they apply to the Hometown Reward Checking but maybe it helps. For the first month, all requirements to receive the rate were waived. I get an email when my statement closes showing me a summary if I fulfilled the requirement, i.e. how many auto ACH transfers posted and how many card transactions I had. For the first month, my two trial deposits from HSBC were counted as auto ACH transfers.  |
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thecpa
- Member
posted: Jul. 8, 2007 @ 10:35a
Does anybody know what CRA they do the hardpull on? |
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nymgiants
- Addicted Member
posted: Jul. 8, 2007 @ 2:01p
thecpa said:Does anybody know what CRA they do the hardpull on? for me it was Equifax |
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DavidScubadiver
- Frivolous Member
posted: Jul. 9, 2007 @ 7:32p
Well, the next step was uneventful. I had registered for internet banking before my paperwork was received (they send you your account info together with paperwork that needs signing and notarization) and I received an E-mail today saying I was approved for online access -- however, when I went to log on it told me my account was deactivated because they sent a letter requesting a signature. I have a feeling I jumped the gun a bit, and hopefully when they get my paperwork today or tomorrow it will be processed and I'll be able to log on and see what's what. |
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DavidScubadiver
- Frivolous Member
posted: Jul. 11, 2007 @ 8:23a
As of today, Toledo Bank has now cashed my opening deposit. So at least I know they are taking my money. Unfortunately, as of yesterday I could not log on to my account as they were indicating that my account was not yet authorized for internet banking (some error message about sending a letter requiring a signature -- I don't know if that's as SECOND letter or if they were still waiting to get my first -- I will call them tomorrow once I have my user name and password handy. I have previously stated that my usernames and passwords are computer generaged and that I cannot access my accounts without my roboform program. It resides on a thumb drive, on my work laptop, and my home desktop. So I figured I'd pretty much always have my passwords. Unfortunately, yesterday I brought my laptop home and this morning I forgot I did so as I've never brought it home before...and my thumbdrive is home as well. If there is a fire and my desktop, laptop and thumbdrive are destroyed before I get home, I will have quite a tangle of financial accounts to untie and explain to lots of CSRs that I have no idea what my username is, no idea what my security answers are and no idea of what my passwords are. Fortunately, I can still access one of my accounts because I havent changed the sign on credentials to randomly generated ones. I guess that's my safety-valve and security risk--I can pull money into that account from most of my others....which means I have to plug that security hole and then put a copy of my encrypted passwords in a safety deposit box. Or just leave my laptop in the office (with the encrypted passwords here). (deleted stray sentence referenced below) |
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76hhma
- Senior Member - 10K
posted: Jul. 11, 2007 @ 8:31a
David: Hope we did not lose communications even here at FWF (In any case, I...)  What a drag for your opening account with this bank. I opened mine (local Danversbank) within thirty minutes (everything good to go). Then received my debit card and follow-up PIN in the next three days. Lesson learned: Open this type of rewards checking account locally (if at all possible), as most of these banks specify. |
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DavidScubadiver
- Frivolous Member
posted: Jul. 11, 2007 @ 10:31a
76hhma said:David: Hope we did not lose communications even here at FWF (In any case, I...) 
What a drag for your opening account with this bank. I opened mine (local Danversbank) within thirty minutes (everything good to go). Then received my debit card and follow-up PIN in the next three days.
Lesson learned: Open this type of rewards checking account locally (if at all possible), as most of these banks specify.Certainly, I'd do it locally if I could have! This has not been too terrible. My money is there earning the interest, which is what counts! |
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stfs
- Senior Member
posted: Jul. 11, 2007 @ 4:35p
76hhma said:Debit transactions: It is more controllable to do PIN-based debit transactions (if counted toward the required ten transactions) in terms of timing (ensuring they fall within the current-month period) and amount (immeidiate debit of exact amount).
Account open: It is best to open the account right after the closing date (say the 15th), thus one gets a free-ride for one full months without the ACH/debit requirements.
Auto-deposit/debit: It has to be initiated from other parties (not from the local billpay); e.g., utility bills, direct deposit, (say) GMAC-deposit/debit, etc.
Practice: Start small with a few hundred dollars and push in big money only until one gets fully familiarized with the banks' rules and regulations on the ten transactions/auto debit-credit requirements. It is not funny to end up earning 0.25% interest rate for the month
Hope this helps. Yes, that helps. Has anyone confirmed whether only debit or credit transactions count toward the 10 or both counts? Auto-debit can be a pull from an external account? e.g. Capone, BoA? I think I'll keep Salem Five as my checking account and use this as another HY interest earning account rather than my primary checking until I see how long the rate will last. The check card transactions have been abit too much trouble with other accounts so what pushes this to the top for me was the no upper limit requirement for deposit. In case, these perks change anyone knows whether there is a penalty for early closing? |
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DavidScubadiver
- Frivolous Member
posted: Jul. 12, 2007 @ 8:57a
Decided to call a CSR about my funny error message, and they were perplexed by it and said they would re-enable my internet access. After putting me on hold she indicated that, yes indeed, they need the form for internet access ALSO signed and they had sent it out to me, so I suppose that should arrive today or tomorrow. She said that they are still working out the kinks in the process and thought that maybe they will send the internet form together with the account opening and debit forms, together in one package. I said that would be nice and save some postage. In any case, when I opened the account you could not enroll for electronic statements (necessary for the higher interest) until AFTER you get an account number, and that account number is received in the mail (requiring the two signatures being notarized). Then, after signing up for internet banking they send out the additional paperwork. I suppose its just an added layer of security. But they have my deposit and I continue to be very hopeful because they are so darned nice. |
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DavidScubadiver
- Frivolous Member
posted: Jul. 13, 2007 @ 7:24p
I'm just updating the summary so you can all see the process of getting the account up and running. |
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76hhma
- Senior Member - 10K
posted: Jul. 13, 2007 @ 8:30p
David: If you opened the account right after the statement period (say 16th of July), you should have the full "grace period" till 15th August. Since you opened the account on 9th July, your grace period will be cut short, only from 9th to 15th (not till 12th). Hopefully your debit card has arrived or will arrive soon to do the 10 required transactions for the August statement period. Anyhow, you can experiment a bit to get the hang of it. |
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DavidScubadiver
- Frivolous Member
posted: Jul. 13, 2007 @ 8:40p
76hhma said:David: If you opened the account right after the statement period (say 16th of July), you should have the full "grace period" till 15th August. Since you opened the account on 9th July, your grace period will be cut short, only from 9th to 15th (not till 12th). Hopefully your debit card has arrived or will arrive soon to do the 10 required transactions for the August statement period.
Anyhow, you can experiment a bit to get the hang of it.Thank you. But the E-mail I received reads as follows: "For the cycle beginning 7/09/07 and ending 7/12/07 you qualified for the interest earned and a refund of your ATM fees." So it looks like they made my statement cycle from the day of my initial deposit to the 12th. If my debit card does not arrive with at least 10 days to make my 10 transactions I will be a bit upset. I am also wondering why the ACH trial deposits did not show up as ACH Credits. In any case, I can't wait to get access to the account on the internet and to get my card so I can indeed "get the hang" of the program. I really want to do all of my checking in one place and this seems like a great spot to do it. |
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DavidScubadiver
- Frivolous Member
posted: Jul. 17, 2007 @ 11:57a
Just a note to read the quick summary as I revised it. This is a great checking account and the extra grace period they offered due to the delay in receiving the debit card is awesome because I can confirm what sorts of ACH transfers count toward the minimum, etc., and make sure I have it all worked out for the month when I have no grace period. Very pleased with their customer service. Banking interface could be better (i.e., there is no ability to link accounts from within the site). |
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mm04
- Member
posted: Jul. 24, 2007 @ 9:43a
"In order to receive the 6.01% rate, you must make a minimum of 10 debit card purchases per month" All of my purchases are always made with credit cards that pay CashBack. Does anyone have any ideas on how to meet this requirement via automated means? (i.e. online) |
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DavidScubadiver
- Frivolous Member
posted: Jul. 24, 2007 @ 10:47a
mm04 said:"In order to receive the 6.01% rate, you must make a minimum of 10 debit card purchases per month"
All of my purchases are always made with credit cards that pay CashBack. Does anyone have any ideas on how to meet this requirement via automated means? (i.e. online)If you can't use the debit card 10x a month you're probably better off not using this account. Personally, I am willing to give up the credit card rewards for a combination of 10 breakfasts and lunches in any given month. Think of the convenience of tghis checking account and you will no doubt agree. |
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