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stfs said:Has anyone done a 'qualified' ACH and what was it listed as?

I don't think there is such a thing as a "qualified ACH debit".

You are, however, required to meet a minimum of one ACH credit per cycle.


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dugggg said:stfs said:Has anyone done a 'qualified' ACH and what was it listed as?

I don't think there is such a thing as a "qualified ACH debit".

You are, however, required to meet a minimum of one ACH credit per cycle.

"1 ACH Debit/Credit" is required.


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DavidScubadiver said:dugggg said:stfs said:Has anyone done a 'qualified' ACH and what was it listed as?

I don't think there is such a thing as a "qualified ACH debit".

You are, however, required to meet a minimum of one ACH credit per cycle.


"1 ACH Debit/Credit" is required.

Yes, the previous poster was incorrect. From the website: "One Direct Deposit or ACH Auto Debit". If ACH it's debit not credit and some institutions doesn't recognize ACH credit from the same named account as direct deposit.


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DavidScubadiver said:
"1 ACH Debit/Credit" is required.

There appears to be a major discrepancy in the per-cycle ACH requirements.

1. The web page says "One direct deposit or ACH auto debit"

2. The written terms, enclosed in the welcome packet, say "Minimum of one ACH credit" and mention nothing about direct deposit or ACH debits of any kind

3. DavidScubadiver says "1 ACH Debit/Credit"


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DavidScubadiver said:stfs said:On the ACH debit, what was the transaction listed as in the Toledo account? Mine displayed under the debit column and the transaction description is 'GMAC Transfer xxxxxxxxxx'. Has anyone done a 'qualified' ACH and what was it listed as?why don't you think the GMAC transfer was not a qualified ach?

No reason except just being overly paranoid. I would feel better if it was listed as ACH Debit not just "Transfer".


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dugggg said:DavidScubadiver said:
"1 ACH Debit/Credit" is required.


There appears to be a major discrepancy in the per-cycle ACH requirements.

1. The web page says "One direct deposit or ACH auto debit"

2. The written terms, enclosed in the welcome packet, say "Minimum of one ACH credit" and mention nothing about direct deposit or ACH debits of any kind

3. DavidScubadiver says "1 ACH Debit/Credit"
Lol, you only NEED 1 so try and pay one of your credit cards from the credit card site, pulling from the reward account. But the "e-mail" summary that you will get end of cycle states whether you met the requirements and lists "1 ACH Debit/Credit" as a requirement. And the first month is a "freebie" so you'll see if it worked or not if you just do the one GMAC transaction (if this is your first month)


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dugggg said:DavidScubadiver said:
"1 ACH Debit/Credit" is required.


There appears to be a major discrepancy in the per-cycle ACH requirements.

1. The web page says "One direct deposit or ACH auto debit"

2. The written terms, enclosed in the welcome packet, say "Minimum of one ACH credit" and mention nothing about direct deposit or ACH debits of any kind

3. DavidScubadiver says "1 ACH Debit/Credit"

O.K. I looked at the welcome packet and you're correct about ACH credit. I'm going to call CS tomorrow and see what's going on.


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Don't call. Just send them an E-mail. They are very prompt in responding (next day latest). That way you have it in writing. And can share easier.


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dugggg said:There appears to be a major discrepancy in the per-cycle ACH requirements.

1. The web page says "One direct deposit or ACH auto debit"

2. The written terms, enclosed in the welcome packet, say "Minimum of one ACH credit" and mention nothing about direct deposit or ACH debits of any kind

3. DavidScubadiver says "1 ACH Debit/Credit"

With this type of Reward Checking account, it is prudent to set up a (payroll) direct deposit so that it is "automatic." Most banks are quite lenient toward what counts as ACH credit/debit and it's YMMV.

One needs to test it oneself instead of interpreting rules literally.


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76hhma said:dugggg said:There appears to be a major discrepancy in the per-cycle ACH requirements.

1. The web page says "One direct deposit or ACH auto debit"

2. The written terms, enclosed in the welcome packet, say "Minimum of one ACH credit" and mention nothing about direct deposit or ACH debits of any kind

3. DavidScubadiver says "1 ACH Debit/Credit"


With this type of Reward Checking account, it is prudent to set up a (payroll) direct deposit so that it is "automatic." Most banks are quite lenient toward what counts as ACH credit/debit and it's YMMV.

One needs to test it oneself instead of interpreting rules literally.
Sure that is prudent. Plus you want your paycheck earning as much interest as possible immediately so its a good idea anyway. I did it myself. But still wound up with 14 qualified transactions most of which I believe were mutual fund purchases. Seemed like everything counted but I have so many transactions its hard to say whether the gmac transfer itself counted. But for me its a no brainer. Direct deposit of my paycheck.


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I agree, direct deposit is the safest way to go.

Nevertheless, I did email Michele about the discrepancies. With hundreds of dollars per month of interest at stake, SBoT should be crystal clear (and consistent) in their requirements.


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Direct Deposit (as I mentioned before some institutions do not consider ACH credit as DD so this is not a 'safe' option; that leaves ACH debit) is not an option for early retirees such as myself so I'll e-mail per your suggestion instead of calling and see if everyone can all comes to a consistent solution.


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for what its worth, I was credited with 27 ACH's and can count 27 on my statement by excluding all account verifications and trial deposits and including a utility bill scheduled from my city's website, transfers to and from gmac, to ingdirect, from Obopay and to vanguard, the check printing charge, chase pulls and my paycheck.

This comports with my earlier post that trial deposits were not counted for my first cycle. Basically, everything else done electronically which is NOT a billpay scheduled from their service, or which is not done on the debit card appears to have qualified.

Note the statements cover periods slightly different from the "reward" period identified in their e-mail. But this is a no-brainer to qualify for.


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stfs said:Some institutions do not consider ACH credit as DD so... not an option for early retirees .

Yow, I did not realize this. I too am an ERee and I am setting up an automatic monthly withdrawal from my Vanguard IRA as the sole DD to SBoT.

It would be quite a bummer if that isn't considered a DD!


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dugggg said:I agree, direct deposit is the safest way to go.

Nevertheless, I did email Michele about the discrepancies. With hundreds of dollars per month of interest at stake, SBoT should be crystal clear (and consistent) in their requirements.
Sorry if double post. Blackberry issue. To be fair they give you the rate first cycle and tell you how many if not which transactions qualify. Basically you would have to try hard to not qualify if you do ANYTHING to cause money toi enter or leave the account using what anybody would call the ach system. Other than trial deposits made on your behalf but not by you.


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Regarding qualified ACH transactions, my Rewards Checking Monthly Summary shows "1 ACH Debit/Credit" as one of the requirements. The term "direct deposit" isn't even mentioned, which implies that direct deposit is a type of ACH transaction; it's the "ACH" part that's important. Interestingly, the one ACH Credit that was referred to on the Summary was a balance transfer from my Advanta Business credit card. For future ACH transactions, I set up an automatic ACH credit from another checking account to SBoT. That's also a rewards checking account, has the same 1 ACH credit/debit requirement, and the ACH debit to that account meets that bank's requirement. So you have an example of both a qualifying ACH credit and debit. Nevertheless, it'll be interesting to see if the e-mail confirms this.


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While we await at least one formal response from SBoT regarding the ACH requirement, I have several unrelated questions.

I have read every post in this forum so I know we have some data points already, but there hasn't been much info from readers who applied recently.

1. How long did the box of checks take to arrive?

2. How long did it take for the debit card to arrive?

3. How long did it take for the PIN (or PIN instructions) to arrive?


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dugggg said:While we await at least one formal response from SBoT regarding the ACH requirement, I have several unrelated questions.

I have read every post in this forum so I know we have some data points already, but there hasn't been much info from readers who applied recently.

1. How long did the box of checks take to arrive?

2. How long did it take for the debit card to arrive?

3. How long did it take for the PIN (or PIN instructions) to arrive?
I think we've all applied recently...the thread only started in July! Waiting for the debit card was the hardest thing and I expect it will continue to take 3 weeks. As for the Pin, FIRST you get a nifty Shazam instruction sheet that tells you WHAT the last four(?) digits of your "to arrive" card are, and it tells you to call and select your own pin (bonus!). You have but ONE chance to do this right so read the instructions carefully and don't be nervous pushing those buttons on the phone. You activate the PIN BEFORE you get the card or else risk the pin instruction sheet expiring. Goofy, but there you have it. Its all explained in painful detail when they send you your mail during the 3 week period it takes to get the card. Patience is a must for this account, but its worth it.


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DavidScubadiver said: Waiting for the debit card was the hardest thing and I expect it will continue to take 3 weeks. Patience is a must for this account, but its worth it.
3 weeks? What kind of rinky dink bank are they? Well I guess they are small at 87 million in total assets. Under performing also with Bankrate only giving them 2 Stars. With Danvers I had the debit card in 5 days. Also they get 4 stars and over $1.25 Billion in size. So in other words, "Nah Nah Nah Nah, My banks better than yours"


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scott1961 said:DavidScubadiver said: Waiting for the debit card was the hardest thing and I expect it will continue to take 3 weeks. Patience is a must for this account, but its worth it.
3 weeks? What kind of rinky dink bank are they? Well I guess they are small at 87 million in total assets. Under performing also with Bankrate only giving them 2 Stars. With Danvers I had the debit card in 5 days. Also they get 4 stars and over $1.25 Billion in size. So in other words, "Nah Nah Nah Nah, My banks better than yours"
Scott, I respectfully disagree with your assessment of things. Our billpay beats your billpay (I speak without knowledge of this, but I have a hunch), PLUS with their HOMETOWN focus, we can expect to be treated right. AND we have access to a community room which Danvers Bank, as I understand it, refuses to provide for its depositors, essentially, IMHO, taking the position, "screw the community".

That is not the sort of attitude a bank can hope to "cover up" by providing free ice cream. In fact, the free ice cream is a dead giveaway that something is fishy over at Danvers.

...thinking of starting a support group.


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