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markkundinger
- Senior Member - 2K
posted: Jul. 18, 2007 @ 5:19p
Well, that's interesting, it does look like it will be a seperate "checking account" that can link to multiple different fidelity accounts. From my own narrow desire for a "unified account", this is disappointing, but the ability to spiderweb it with multiple Fidelity accounts is pretty cool. I also like the apparant ability to sweep cash both in and out of the smartcash checking. |
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scanchain
- Senior Member
posted: Jul. 18, 2007 @ 5:29p
If the mySmart account yield is less than that in the brokerage account, I would leave all the money in the brokerage account and set the trigger threshold to zero, since it appears that the self funded overdraft should take care of any debits in the mySmart account anyway. |
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craig10x
- Senior Member - 3K
posted: Jul. 22, 2007 @ 7:38p
stook2001, you were very fortunate to get a CSR on chat that had even that much advanced information about this new Fidelity product, as i have chatted with two seperate csrs recently, and neither one has any information at all about it (other then it was coming soon)....I really hope it does launch on Aug 1st, as i can't wait to check it out!  I've had my brokerage with Fidelity for a long time (and they are top-notch) and it would be great to do all your banking with them, also...key points for me (for this to be good) is: 1) decent apy on checking account 2) no balance requirements 3) unlimited atm rebates....if it really has all that, this could be outstanding...  |
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StartingMoney
- Senior Member
posted: Jul. 22, 2007 @ 10:15p
craig10x said:stook2001, you were very fortunate to get a CSR on chat that had even that much advanced information about this new Fidlelity product, as i have chatted with two seperate csrs recently, and neither one has any information at all about it (other then it was coming soon)....I really hope it does launch on Aug 1st, as i can't wait to check it out! 
I've had my brokerage with Fidelity for a long time (and they are top-notch) and it would be great to do all your banking with them, also...key points for me (for this to be good) is: 1) decent apy on checking account 2) no balance requirements 3) unlimited atm rebates....if it really has all that, this could be outstanding...  If Fidelity can offer a decent checking APY, no min balance, and unlimited ATM rebates I will move all of my checking/savings balances to Fidelity beginning 8/1. |
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vkva
- Ancient Member
posted: Jul. 22, 2007 @ 11:51p
Even though they have no official announcement yet, they have updated their Glossary pages with "mySmart" phrases. Please scroll down to mySmart... on this page. |
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craig10x
- Senior Member - 3K
posted: Jul. 23, 2007 @ 11:03a
yes, startingmoney, you...me...and a lot of others here, i'm sure....Fidelity is a "class act" and it would be great (and very convenient) to be able to do all your banking along with your investments  |
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pagladasu
- Member
posted: Jul. 24, 2007 @ 3:20p
  http://personal.fidelity.com/products/checking/?bar=c I think this will be available from 1st Aug ... Jus talked to a rep. Funny part is ... he didn't know about this link  |
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dragoon976
- Member
posted: Jul. 24, 2007 @ 3:31p
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bejota3
- Member
posted: Jul. 24, 2007 @ 3:41p
Here's a better link: Fidelity mySmart Cash Account http://personal.fidelity.com/accounts/aong/sca_learn.shtml.cvsr 3.50% APY - cool No ATM Fees & 3rd party fees refunded - HOT! |
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Clocks
- Senior Member
posted: Jul. 24, 2007 @ 4:09p
dragoon976 said:pagladasu said:  http://personal.fidelity.com/products/checking/?bar=c
I think this will be available from 1st Aug ... Jus talked to a rep. Funny part is ... he didn't know about this link 
After reading that, I can't help but wonder what exactly is the benefit to this over what Fidelity's current customers have. Any current Fidelity customers agree?
Sounds like they give you fee standard checks. I am not sure I get that now. |
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ScootyPuffSr
- Senior Member - 2K
posted: Jul. 24, 2007 @ 4:09p
*yawn* I thought Fidelity was pretty good as it was. Outside of Dolmar's servants and Dolmar's valets does any typical FWFer really use cash? I sometimes have the same $20 bill in my wallet for a month or more. I'll keep my GMAC 5.3% to write (the rent) checks and for the $6/month refund which is $6 more than I use every month. I'll keep my FSLXX for the 5.17% rate and instant access to securities. I guess free ATM rebates isn't a big enough draw to put money in at 3.5%. I can't believe the fervor this is causing. |
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dpid
- Ancient Member
posted: Jul. 24, 2007 @ 4:44p
ScootyPuffSr said:*yawn* I'm thought Fidelity was pretty good as it was. Outside of Dolmar's servants and Dolmar's valets does any typical FWFer really use cash? I sometimes have the same $20 bill in my wallet for a month or more.
I'll keep my GMAC 5.3% to write (the rent) checks and for the $6/month refund which is $6 more than I use every month.
I'll keep my FSLXX for the 5.17% rate and instant access to securities.
I guess free ATM rebates isn't a big enough draw to put money in at 3.5%. I can't believe the fervor this is causing. I think its a great deal, but I don't see how its hot. Schwab Bank offers its checking account for 4.25% and ATM rebates too. The things fidelity has going for it are the mileage bonus and cash bonus for opening the account and money market rates at 5.xx% As for using cash, I try to limit my use of cash because once i take it out, its so hard to identify where i spend it. Situations with friends at restaurants where its easier to split a tab with cash or at bars to pay the bartender right there instead of waiting to sign. I recently went to a jazz club and the bartender notified me that they only accept AMEX or cash. First time ever I heard accepting AMEX but not visa or mastercard. |
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ChinaMeng
- Member
posted: Jul. 24, 2007 @ 5:04p
I think you guys are not understanding the benefit of Fidelity's Self Funded Overdraft Protection. Basically you can have $1 sitting in your 3.5% MyCash account and everything else sitting at 5.xx% in a Fidelity Money Market account. Whenever there is a debit on your Fidelity checking account, the cash will automatically be withdrawn from the 5.xx% Fidelity Money Market account. So the interest rate should be pretty competitive (even better than Charles Schwab's 4.25%) I might be wrong, but I think that is how it works.
mySmart Cash ManagerSM Self Funded Overdraft Protection
As part of mySmart Cash Manager, Self Funded Overdraft Protection helps fund mySmart Cash AccountSM debit requests if the debit requests (i.e., from a debit card, direct debit, Fidelity BillPay®, check disbursement, wire, or other cash transactions) exceed the mySmart Cash Account's available cash balance. * If there is inadequate cash in the mySmart Cash Account, mySmart Cash Manager Self-Funded Overdraft Protection looks for sufficient funds to cover the debit request in the first Fidelity Funding Account. Self-Funded Overdraft Protection looks for available cash, available margin loan, and non-core money market positions in your first Funding Account. If there are enough available funds to satisfy the debit request, Self Funded Overdraft Protection moves them to your mySmart Cash Account and satisfies the debit request. * If there are insufficient funds to satisfy the debit request in your first Fidelity Funding Account, Self Funded Overdraft Protection earmarks any available funds and then searches the second Fidelity Funding Account for the difference. If sufficient funds are found, Self Funded Overdraft Protection moves them to your mySmart Cash Account and satisfies the debit request. If there are insufficient funds to satisfy the debit request in your first and second Fidelity Funding Accounts, mySmart Cash Manager Self Funded Overdraft Protection looks for the difference in your third Fidelity Funding Account, and then your fourth, etc., until enough funds are found to satisfy the debit request, or there are no more Fidelity Funding Accounts. * If there are insufficient funds to satisfy the debit request in your entire Fidelity Funding Account hierarchy, mySmart Cash Manager Self Funded Overdraft Protection does not move any money, and the debit request is processed in the same way as other insufficient fund transactions. |
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ScootyPuffSr
- Senior Member - 2K
posted: Jul. 24, 2007 @ 5:11p
ChinaMeng said:I think you guys are not understanding the benefit of Fidelity's Self Funded Overdraft Protection.
Basically you can have $1 sitting in your 3.5% MyCash account and everything else sitting at 5.xx% in a Fidelity Money Market account. Whenever there is a debit on your Fidelity checking account, the cash will automatically be withdrawn from the 5.xx% Fidelity Money Market account. So the interest rate should be pretty competitive (even better than Charles Schwab's 4.25%)
I might be wrong, but I think that is how it works.
I already do that with bill-pay and writing checks from my core account which is always zero and my FSLXX which auto-triggers to cover. I may be missing something but the only real benefit to me would be the ATM rebates. However, I guess I'm the only one who doesn't take advantage of it and already has a $6/month 5.3% account which beats a 3.5% account anyway. |
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ChinaMeng
- Member
posted: Jul. 24, 2007 @ 5:22p
ScootyPuffSr said:ChinaMeng said:I think you guys are not understanding the benefit of Fidelity's Self Funded Overdraft Protection.
Basically you can have $1 sitting in your 3.5% MyCash account and everything else sitting at 5.xx% in a Fidelity Money Market account. Whenever there is a debit on your Fidelity checking account, the cash will automatically be withdrawn from the 5.xx% Fidelity Money Market account. So the interest rate should be pretty competitive (even better than Charles Schwab's 4.25%)
I might be wrong, but I think that is how it works.
I already do that with bill-pay and writing checks from my core account which is always zero and my FSLXX which auto-triggers to cover.
I may be missing something but the only real benefit to me would be the ATM rebates. However, I guess I'm the only one who doesn't take advantage of it and already has a $6/month 5.3% account which beats a 3.5% account anyway. Right, but this will not be a 3.5% account but a 5.17% account (or whatever rate FSLXX is) |
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kittenmittens
- Frivolous Member
posted: Jul. 24, 2007 @ 5:47p
ChinaMeng said:Right, but this will not be a 3.5% account but a 5.17% account (or whatever rate FSLXX is) But Scooty is talking about the smart cash account, not FSLXX, that's why he's referring to 3.5%. The "Self Funded Overdraft" is already in place right now they've just slapped a fancy name on it so they can sell it. This is great for folks that haven't read the fidelity thread here but only the ATM refunds (and FDIC insurance on the account nobody is going to keep their money in) are new features. I use cash all the time so I like the refunds but I wish they just added that to the core account. |
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scanchain
- Senior Member
posted: Jul. 24, 2007 @ 6:03p
ScootyPuffSr said:ChinaMeng said:I think you guys are not understanding the benefit of Fidelity's Self Funded Overdraft Protection.
Basically you can have $1 sitting in your 3.5% MyCash account and everything else sitting at 5.xx% in a Fidelity Money Market account. Whenever there is a debit on your Fidelity checking account, the cash will automatically be withdrawn from the 5.xx% Fidelity Money Market account. So the interest rate should be pretty competitive (even better than Charles Schwab's 4.25%)
I might be wrong, but I think that is how it works.
I already do that with bill-pay and writing checks from my core account which is always zero and my FSLXX which auto-triggers to cover. I have been doing this too using this "unofficial" feature. I guess MyCash just makes this feature "official". |
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markkundinger
- Senior Member - 2K
posted: Jul. 24, 2007 @ 6:25p
Well... I'm slightly disappointed. Sounds like they copied the annoying dual-account setup of Schwab. Sure, you could keep a zero-dollar mycash account (like I do with Schwab currently), and then you've got a 5.x% checking account with free ATMs. Or, in my case, if I'm willing to sacrifice the ATMs, I could just keep the Fidelity brokerage account, and still have a 5.x% checking account (checks are free btw) and just not mess with having two accounts out there. The sum might actually be less than the parts. |
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Yoroku
- New Member
posted: Jul. 24, 2007 @ 6:44p
It seems that a fraudulent debit request can trigger "the self-funded protection" and steal not only the cash but also the MMF. Does Fidelity email you upon such an automatic money move from FSLXX? Fidelity’s banking functions are impressive. Thank you the Fatwalleters for discussing them. Yoroku |
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craig10x
- Senior Member - 3K
posted: Jul. 24, 2007 @ 6:53p
I was just wondering what would happen if you had a zero balance in the My Smart Cash checking, and you went to an ATM to do a withdrawal....I understand that if you do a bill pay, or paper check is getting paid, fidelity will automatically sell shares of your 5% MM Fund to cover it, but if you do a withdrawal or debit card purchase with the Fidelity Debit Card, wouldn't the transaction be rejected? I would assume that the atm machine or the store's debit/credit card reader would just see the zero balance and reject the transaction...or am i wrong? So, wouldn't you still need to keep enough in Checking to cover such transactions? |
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