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Why are some planning to keep cash in the mySmart Cash account? Does the self funded overdraft protection only apply to checks and cash has to be available in the mySmart Cash account for ATM withdrawls?

Why bother setting up BillPay and checking again on the new account? You could just use the BillPay and checks that are tied to your brokerage account. Still seems like a ridiculous amount of complication instead of just offering some ATM rebates.


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fyleow said:Why are some planning to keep cash in the mySmart Cash account? Does the self funded overdraft protection only apply to checks and cash has to be available in the mySmart Cash account for ATM withdrawls?

Why bother setting up BillPay and checking again on the new account? You could just use the BillPay and checks that are tied to your brokerage account. Still seems like a ridiculous amount of complication instead of just offering some ATM rebates.
That's a reasonable solution. Yes, self-funded overdraft applies to ATMs.

I mostly think it will be cleanest to have all outgoing money run through the account, to maximize future flexibility (since, for example, you can easily change the order from which accounts overdraft protection is drawn, but not which investments in a single account). That also minimizes the cash sitting in the checking account: if I have any there, any check, billpay or ATM access will use it up. If you try to keep using billpay, checks, etc. out of both, that can get confusing, but if you use the mySmart only for ATMs, then, when you look at the brokerage account history, you'll know that's what every transfer to the other account was for.


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From the rep I spoke with, it sounded like they wanted to be able to say "FDIC insured" on their banking product. Probably a big catch for a lot of people. At this time, I am going to hold off setting up the account. I just don't see the benefit in my case.


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It looks like a catch. I called and there is no fee for overdraft protection and they accept direct deposit. Now anyone confirm if i can use FSLXX as my core account. I can even get the $100 bonus plus the visa card. Sweet deal


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pyro123 said:It looks like a catch. I called and there is no fee for overdraft protection and they accept direct deposit. Now anyone confirm if i can use FSLXX as my core account. I can even get the $100 bonus plus the visa card. Sweet deal

You don't need to use FSLXX as your core account. If you have money in FLSXX Fidelity will automatically sell to cover your negative balance.

Is there a way to deposit checks written out to me to the mySmart Cash account? The FAQ doesn't cover this topic. Looks like I'll have to keep my BofA checking account around to deposit checks unless there is a way to mail it to Fidelity or something. Could it be done at another institution's ATM?


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pyro123 said:Now anyone confirm if i can use FSLXX as my core account.It can't be your core account, but you can leave most of your money sitting in it.

The core account for a mySmart account is always the FDIC-insured bank account. You can set up the overdraft protection feature to automatically draw from another account if necessary to cover any debit to your account (including at an ATM). If you hold FSLXX in the mySmart account itself, they will probably let you spend the money in FSLXX, but that's not an official guaranteed feature. But if you have a second brokerage account, and THAT account is invested in FSLXX, and the mySmart account is set to use that account for overdraft, then you can have your cash sitting where you want and get ATM rebates.


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fyleow said:Is there a way to deposit checks written out to me to the mySmart Cash account? The FAQ doesn't cover this topic. Looks like I'll have to keep my BofA checking account around to deposit checks unless there is a way to mail it to Fidelity or something. Could it be done at another institution's ATM?You can deposit them at a Fidelity branch, if you have one nearby. You can do it by mail, though accepting third-party checks may be an unofficial feature.


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LH2004 said:pyro123 said:Now anyone confirm if i can use FSLXX as my core account.It can't be your core account, but you can leave most of your money sitting in it.

The core account for a mySmart account is always the FDIC-insured bank account. You can set up the overdraft protection feature to automatically draw from another account if necessary to cover any debit to your account (including at an ATM). If you hold FSLXX in the mySmart account itself, they will probably let you spend the money in FSLXX, but that's not an official guaranteed feature. But if you have a second brokerage account, and THAT account is invested in FSLXX, and the mySmart account is set to use that account for overdraft, then you can have your cash sitting where you want and get ATM rebates.


Major drawback is that you need to maintain a $2000 balance in the FSLXX. The core account like FCASH,FTEXX,FMOXX and tax-free municipal funds have lower yield around 3%apy and no minimum. Since i am in the high tax bracket 28%fed and 6.37%state, still beats charles schwab 4.25% checking yield or Salem5Direct 5.0% yield. But by how much?


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FSLXX typically yields around 5% or more. mySmartCash APY is only 3.50%, so depending on your balance, you lose out on interest vs. the occasional ATM rebates.


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pyro123 said:LH2004 said:pyro123 said:Now anyone confirm if i can use FSLXX as my core account.It can't be your core account, but you can leave most of your money sitting in it.

The core account for a mySmart account is always the FDIC-insured bank account. You can set up the overdraft protection feature to automatically draw from another account if necessary to cover any debit to your account (including at an ATM). If you hold FSLXX in the mySmart account itself, they will probably let you spend the money in FSLXX, but that's not an official guaranteed feature. But if you have a second brokerage account, and THAT account is invested in FSLXX, and the mySmart account is set to use that account for overdraft, then you can have your cash sitting where you want and get ATM rebates.


Major drawback is that you need to maintain a $2000 balance in the FSLXX. The core account like FCASH,FTEXX,FMOXX and tax-free municipal funds have lower yield around 3%apy and no minimum. Since i am in the high tax bracket 28%fed and 6.37%state, still beats charles schwab 4.25% checking yield or Salem5Direct 5.0% yield. But by how much?


Tax free municipal funds DO have minimums and they are higher than FSLXX. I'm in California and that one has a $5000 minimum with minimum deposits of $250. I'm not sure if the minimums are waived if you use it as a core account though. The New Jersey Municipal fund (FNJXX) has a 7 day yield of 3.17%. Based on your tax bracket the muni would yield 4.7%.

You can check using Morningstar's Calculator

LH2004 said:You can deposit them at a Fidelity branch, if you have one nearby. You can do it by mail, though accepting third-party checks may be an unofficial feature.

Sounds like a plan. Not too many branches around me but good enough for those odd checks I receive once in awhile.


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fyleow said:

Tax free municipal funds DO have minimums and they are higher than FSLXX. I'm in California and that one has a $5000 minimum with minimum deposits of $250. I'm not sure if the minimums are waived if you use it as a core account though. The New Jersey Municipal fund (FNJXX) has a 7 day yield of 3.17%. Based on your tax bracket the muni would yield 4.7%.

You can check using Morningstar's Calculator

LH2004 said:You can deposit them at a Fidelity branch, if you have one nearby. You can do it by mail, though accepting third-party checks may be an unofficial feature.

Sounds like a plan. Not too many branches around me but good enough for those odd checks I receive once in awhile.


If you look at return sheet of FNJXX, they post the Tax Equivalent Yield of 5.36%. How do they come up with this w/o my tax brackets and differs from Morningstar calculator.. I checked FSKXX 3.4% and yields 5.12 using the calculator. I think i found me a keeper except i have to confirm the fees. I believe you must open the core acct with a minimum but there is no restrictions afterwards.


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Tax-exempt muni MMFs are the core of choice at Fidelity. When they're used as core, there is no minimum. Fidelity's "after-tax" numbers on those funds says they assume maximum federal and state tax rates.


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LH2004 said:I mostly think it will be cleanest to have all outgoing money run through the account, to maximize future flexibility (since, for example, you can easily change the order from which accounts overdraft protection is drawn, but not which investments in a single account). That also minimizes the cash sitting in the checking account: if I have any there, any check, billpay or ATM access will use it up. If you try to keep using billpay, checks, etc. out of both, that can get confusing, but if you use the mySmart only for ATMs, then, when you look at the brokerage account history, you'll know that's what every transfer to the other account was for.
I have opened the account but so far have not made any changes to my billpay or shifted any money around. I have the same thought as you, in that this could quickly get messy, especially when I currently already have direct credits and debits (ACH) to my existing brokerage account.

I see two options:

1. Use the mySmartCash just for ATM. The balance in mySmartCash can be kept to $0. Continue using my existing brokerage account for billpay and direct debits and credits.

2. Move all my non-core MMF to the mySmartCash account. Also move all billpays and direct debits and credits to the mySmartCash account. Then effectively, I only have one account (mySmartCash) to worry about.


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scanchain said:1. Use the mySmartCash just for ATM. The balance in mySmartCash can be kept to $0. Continue using my existing brokerage account for billpay and direct debits and credits.

This way would seem to offer the least transactional complexity. I would only recommend running ALL withdrawals through smartcash if you really wanted to do the complicated lh2004 method of smartcash + cash account + margin account. Even then, you could still direct all your deposits towards the cash account.


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How is FSLXX compared to a Money Market account? The APY of GMAC Bank's Money Market Savings is 5.3% and it is FDIC issured.


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lzman said:How is FSLXX compared to a Money Market account? The APY of GMAC Bank's Money Market Savings is 5.3% and it is FDIC issured.

I'm not sure why you can't do the math yourself. FSLXX's numbers are available on the website and every major finance webpage. It varies but currently it is about 5.17% APY.

I don't need ATM rebates so I'm not signing up for this. I discovered how great Fidelity was after I already had GMAC so I keep just enough for the rent (check) and ATM witihdraws and I've never come close to going over the $6/month.

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As far as being all fussy about FSLXX and core accounts...I've earned under $5 this year from my core account (i.e. it is almost always zero). Yet I've paid over $250,000 in "bills" this year using bill-pay. Official or not, I have several CSRs (their names and references number) stating that this is the "proper" operation for non-margin accounts.

Clearly I've "swept" or "autosold" $250,000+ so far this year and never had a single problem. I think all the worry is over-hyped. All this while keeping my core at $10 or less.

GMAC is great for *certain things* and Fidelity core+FSLXX is great for *certain things*. I could never have paid all my bills in such an efficient (interest and fees) and non-time intensive manner with GMAC.


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I've tried researching the differences between FSLXX and FDRXX but for the life of me, I can't tell what the difference is, other than FSLXX pays .05% more interest than FDRXX. Is that the only difference, and should I sell all my FDRXX and buy FSLXX or is it not worth it ?

Also, do both FSLXX and FDRXX qualify as MMF for the funding accounts.

Also, has anyone else noticed that in the portfolio section, on the dropdown for the MySmart Cash Account, it has the options for buying stocks and mutual funds? Does the MySmart Cash account allow for those purchases ?

Thanks in advance...


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joe20001 said:I've tried researching the differences between FSLXX and FDRXX but for the life of me, I can't tell what the difference is, other than FSLXX pays .05% more interest than FDRXX. Is that the only difference, and should I sell all my FDRXX and buy FSLXX or is it not worth it ?

Also, do both FSLXX and FDRXX qualify as MMF for the funding accounts.

Also, has anyone else noticed that in the portfolio section, on the dropdown for the MySmart Cash Account, it has the options for buying stocks and mutual funds? Does the MySmart Cash account allow for those purchases ?

Thanks in advance...

Unless things have changed (or I am mistaken), it is my understanding that FDRXX can only be held in retirement accts. In that case, then no real difference. Otherwise, you can't buy FDRXX so you should stay in FSLXX.


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Maybe I missed it, but is this a hard or soft pull.


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