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Jackcrawfish Inaugural App-o-rama | Paid AOR Early | 2.0 Launch = Aug 18, 2008 Archived From: Finance

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I still haven't seen the parent/employee lines "settle down" per my CitiBiz Post. Should I call?

Also FYI... I was mistaken in my understanding of successful reallocation from personal PPE.

I reallocated the Business Premier Pass card - not the personal PPE. I have no record of applying for the BIZ Premier Pass but I do have record of the personal PP Elite. This is why I misrepresented the reallocation. Sorry all, for the mix up.

I didn't even try to reallocate the personal PPE to CitiBiz. I simply called to consolidate the line to my high daily use PlatDivSelect card ($75 annual fee on the PPE and such).

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Sure, calling about the lines couldn't hurt. Who knows, maybe my "settling down" coincided with a statement cycle or something.

Thanks for clarifying on personal PPE (PPPE?) vs. business PP (BPP?). I don't fee so bad about giving up on my own PPPE.

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I called 08/20
Rep was confused by why the lines did not match up. She said she couldn't adjust lines. She referred this manager for review (uh-oh). Sd to check this in the morning.

I called 08/21
lines for both parent and card accounts now show 18,500. My Professional (7.5k) and Business PP (2.0k) disappeared from the parent account. I called and spoke with "Glo" and she said those lines are being worked. She saw that the lines have been reduced on the Prof and BPPass cards 8/16 and it "should settle down soon." (her words exactly).

When I asked why the $3,500 from the UNIVERSAL settled more quickly, she could not say for certain. I didn't bother explaining the parent account saw the 2 missing increases while the child account did not - I am assuming the corrections are being made....we'll see

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I called again (4PM cst). Different rep had to get his account manager to override. The rep promised w/in 3-5 days I'd see $28,000 line.

By 9PM I saw the new line and immediately "uncorked" with a check to self $27,160. woo-hooo !!!!

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The AMX check deposited to spouse's brand new HSBC checking account posted 08/21. I inquired via email as to when those funds could be accessed. Here is the response:

  • Your deposit for $25,640.00 posted to your account August 21, 2007. Check deposits typically take 2 to 5 business days to clear with the funds becoming available in increments over that time period. Check deposit availability is at the branch's discretion and may depend upon the deposit amount and the location of the bank of which the check was written against (out-of-state vs. in-state).

I hope to get these funds directly over to FNBO by EOM however..... there is a disclaimer on FNBO's site regarding linked accounts. "You represent, warrant and agree that: (1) you shall not enroll an external account that anyone else owns or has an interest in; "

My question is: Irrespective of their policy, should I link my wife's account to FNBO anyway (my name is nowhere on the account)? Shuld I attempt a transfer from her account to mine? Will [linking]-[transferring from] her account raise flags at FNBO and will they close my account down? Or merely remove the link to hers?

I'm still noob material... thoughts anyone? A few links already researched were this post and and this one

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jackcrawfish said:My question is: Irrespective of their policy, should I link my wife's account to FNBO anyway (my name is nowhere on the account)? Shuld I attempt a transfer from her account to mine? Will [linking]-[transferring from] her account raise flags at FNBO and will they close my account down? Or merely remove the link to hers?
Not to fuel the FNBO paranoia but I don't think that's a good idea. Aside from pissing off FNBO if Cashedge decides you're up to no good it could affect a lot more accounts.

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I have no advice on FNBO, but I don't usually recommend making a BT deposit directly into a checking account, unless it's bearing a good interest rate. That's because a large check can routinely have the first $5k put on hold for 2/5 days, but the amount over $5k can be put on hold for an additional five or so days. We're talking about two weeks here.

Since I'm lucky enough to have a Fidelity branch in town, I just deposit there and it goes in the money market (holds before withdrawal are about 4 days). If not that, I'd deposit to a local high yield savings account with citibank. Failing that, I'd just mail the deposit directly to whichever institution I wanted it to get to, with the idea that losing a couple days in the mail is better than losing a couple weeks in the checking account.

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kittenmittens said:jackcrawfish said:My question is: Irrespective of their policy, should I link my wife's account to FNBO anyway (my name is nowhere on the account)? Shuld I attempt a transfer from her account to mine? Will [linking]-[transferring from] her account raise flags at FNBO and will they close my account down? Or merely remove the link to hers?
Not to fuel the FNBO paranoia but I don't think that's a good idea. Aside from pissing off FNBO if Cashedge decides you're up to no good it could affect a lot more accounts.

Thanks, kitten. Your link had fantastic information related to ACH transfers and "transfer paralysis" which I had previously not read. green.

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markkundinger said:I have no advice on FNBO, but I don't usually recommend making a BT deposit directly into a checking account, unless it's bearing a good interest rate. That's because a large check can routinely have the first $5k put on hold for 2/5 days, but the amount over $5k can be put on hold for an additional five or so days. We're talking about two weeks here.

Since I'm lucky enough to have a Fidelity branch in town, I just deposit there and it goes in the money market (holds before withdrawal are about 4 days). If not that, I'd deposit to a local high yield savings account with citibank. Failing that, I'd just mail the deposit directly to whichever institution I wanted it to get to, with the idea that losing a couple days in the mail is better than losing a couple weeks in the checking account.
Agreed. Savings would have been better than checking.

(1) My wife had zero accounts soley in her name at the beginning of my AOR. (2) Concern from AMX that if I deposited a BT check into a joint account that bore my name anywhere, the check would be treated as CASH ADVANCE. (i know, MikeR - you said the rep was wrong but I played by the more conservative of rules with this one). So, I opened a checking (oops) account in her name soley (in hindsight I should've opened a savings).

  • There have been more than a few "I-should've-done-this" type of strategy blunders on my part with this first run. I'll add my learnings to the OP later this week.

Thanks, Mark for your response.

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Per MikeR397, AMX calls you regardless of fair warning:

RECAP
08/16 I contacted AMX via secure-mail regarding check to spouse:

    Customer (myid@yahoo.com) 08/16/2007 03:34 PM
    FYI.... I paid fname lname $24,560 with check #3000. Since this is the first transaction from this account, I wanted to inform you to honor this check once the creditor deposits the funds to their account.

    Response (P. Anand) 08/17/2007 04:05 AM
    I appreciate your time and effort in informing us that you have submitted a check on the amount of $24,560.00 and would like this check to be approved....Rest assured, I have added this information on our records so that the check gets approved when it is received by the concerned department....

08/21 AMX Check to spouse deposited to her HSBC checking account
08/22 AMX now shows reduction in available credit by amount deposited
08/23 10am CST received call from AMX verified address, last 4 of SSN, and AMX offered to whom the check was written to.

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Pulaski sent a letter declining my application for credit.

  • The reason given was: Unable to verify employment.

This was caused, I'm sure, by the fact I listed my own work number as the employer phone and when they called asking for verification I foolishly panicked and said, "please hold." I came back on the line after 30 seconds, apologized for the hold and transferred the call to the main front desk believing they would in turn give the Pulaski rep to HR. Either by employer (a)won't do verifications or (b) Pulaski thought the hold and transfer spiel was phony and the "front desk" was perhaps a friend in on "the game" of acquiring credit. I don't think I'll pursue this one as I've heard nothing but B-A-D things regarding Pulaski (cyberkost's experience here and here).

I also received a CLI declined letter from M&T (Elan) for the following principal reason: Missing Authorized Officer signature

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HSBC checking account for spouse name only finally cleared AMX check I wrote to her for $25,640 (8th biz day since posting to HSBC). I immediately Xferred from her sole HSBC acct to our joint HSBC acct and finally to my sole HSBC acct. Inititated Xfer from my sole HSBC acct to FNBO.

I was playing it safe; following the rules AMX gave me (see this post).

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markkundinger said:I have no advice on FNBO, but I don't usually recommend making a BT deposit directly into a checking account, unless it's bearing a good interest rate. That's because a large check can routinely have the first $5k put on hold for 2/5 days, but the amount over $5k can be put on hold for an additional five or so days. We're talking about two weeks here.

At my bank, Union Bank of CA, they will put holds on BT checks over $10K that I physically bring in. However, large electronic deposits from CC issuers have no hold period.

-Pak

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jackcrawfish said:HSBC checking account for spouse name only finally cleared AMX check I wrote to her for $25,640 (8th biz day since posting to HSBC). I immediately Xferred from her sole HSBC acct to our joint HSBC acct and finally to my sole HSBC acct. Inititated Xfer from my sole HSBC acct to FNBO.

I was playing it safe; following the rules AMX gave me (see this post).
But what else do you expect from The Space Monkeys

My bank does not hold checks, regardless of any amount, ever. They make the funds available the next day every time. (Fifth Third Bank)

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Whoah, check holds are a common issue with deposits made at many banks, and to some extent, they're good policy by the banks (to avoid check kiting). That isn't too space monkey-ish.

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I concur with markk....er on this one.

I am curious to learn of how FNBO calc's the interest for the account (days since funds available or days since funds posted to FNBO)? Any datapoints on this one???

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From the monstrous FNBO thread, their account disclosures say they pay based on "collected balance", but FWF questions to CSRs have implied they pay off nominal ledger balance.

I'll find out in 3 days on my own account, as I made both check and ACH deposits.

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5.84 APR = 6.00 APY... My statement showed $161.74 in interest earnings...Based on ledger balance, my own calculation shows as follows:

interest=(APR/365 days) "X" days ledger balance "X" ledger balance
$20.53=(0.0584/365)...................1.........................128339.73
$48.57=(0.0584/365)...................3.........................101179.73
$16.19=(0.0584/365)...................1.........................101180.73
$43.82=(0.0584/365)...................4..........................68466.00
$8.47=(0.0584/365)....................1..........................52916.00
$10.57=(0.0584/365)....................2..........................33016.00
$13.61=(0.0584/365)....................5..........................17011.00
$0.00=(0.0584/365)..................1.............................1.00
$161.75

So then it is in fact based on ledger and not available balance....

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Saw the FAKO pain with EQ today. Balances beginning to report now with a 21 point drop at that bureau (111 point drop since beginning of AOR).

Interestingly, EX reported the 64,100 line from AMX and my score dropped 19 points.

When requesting CLI's for accounts which pulled TU on the front-end, would it be safe to assume TU on the backend as well? I may pull the trigger and CLI request for the NAT'L City card once the Inq falls off(personal utilization might be helped).... BRCLYSBANKDE did fall off today... I may ask for CLI for the business account (for realloc during 2.0 in 2008)....

Thoughts anyone? Threads anyone?

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Detailed game plan from OP moved here (too cluttered as OP)

The Plan 8/10--------------------------------------------------The Plan "2" 8/13--------------------------------------------ACTUAL 9/10
AMX......... $28,845 45% fee=0 6 mo--------AMX......... $25,640 40% fee=0 6 mo-----AMX......... $25,640 40% fee=0 6 mo
NATLCITY..$9,000 60% fee=0 6 mo--------NATLCITY..$12,750 85% fee=0 6 mo------NATLCITY..$12,750 85% fee=0 6 mo
WELLS......$9,900 60% fee=0 6 mo--------WELLS......$14,685 89% fee=0 6 mo------WELLS......$9,000 55% fee=0 6 mo
---------------------------------------------*****PULASKI....$TBD up to 89% fee=0 6 mo

    -------$47,745 0 fee 6 mo investment......................$53,075 0 fee 6 mo investment.........$47,390 0 fee 6 mo investment

BOA............ $17,000 85% fee=0 12 mo----BOA............ $17,000 85% fee=0 12 mo------BOA............ $15,500 78% fee=0 12 mo
PRINCIPAL.. $9,600 69.1% fee=75 12 mo---PRINCIPAL.. $9,600 69.1% fee=75 12 mo--PRINCIPAL.. $9,600 69.1% fee=75 12 mo
CHASE........$5,623 60% fee=75 12 mo-----CHASE..............$0 0% fee=0 12 mo----------CHASE..............$0 0% fee=0 12 mo
CITI..............$18,600 60% fee=0 12 mo-------CITI.............$20,000 85% fee=0 12 mo-----CITI.............$20,000 85% fee=0 12 mo

    -------------$50,823 150 fee 12 mo investment.......$46,600 75 fee 12 mo investment..............$45,175 75 fee 12 mo investment

    -----------$98,568 ~~ 47% GLOBAL UTIL...........$99,675 ~~ 49.7% GLOBAL UTIL.............$92,565 ~~ 48.8% GLOBAL
    +Bizcrd|$74,950 ~~ 97% ..................................$82,545 ~~ 96%..................................$90,900 ~~ 90%

TOTAL =====$173,518 invested.....................................$182,220 invested...............................$183,465 invested
================================"X" 4.0% APY after tax ~~~ $7,000========"X" 4.0% APY after tax ~~~ $5,500

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