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My only complaint with Indymac is that they keep rotating the accounts and you need to keep asking them to move your money into their latest highest rate account. This account will eventually be a low rate and another account will have the higher rate. This is the 3rd account change I've made with them.


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doglar said:My only complaint with Indymac is that they keep rotating the accounts and you need to keep asking them to move your money into their latest highest rate account. This account will eventually be a low rate and another account will have the higher rate. This is the 3rd account change I've made with them.

I like calling my branch and talking to some of the cute csr's.


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Well maybe I have another complaint. After my account was changed, and I verified other accounts to start transfers, I noticed there is a monthly limit of $25k inbound and outbound. So I am guessing, by the time 2 months go buy so that you can actually have $50k in it, the rate will not be worth it anymore. Oh well, I guess I just have to keep looking on where to go after 9/28 when FNBO is no longer at 6%.


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Are you trying to pull from Indymac? I don't use the website so I don't know of Indymac's ACH limits, as I do everything in branch. I'm sure you can push money in all you want, and they can't limit pushes in.

Also, I have talked to a branch rep, and confirmed that incoming wires are free. I'm sure there's no limits on wires, and they post same day. A good way to fund it would be to to wire money from a WaMu free checking account which has free outgoing wires.

But then, I guess it would be hard for you to get money out when the rate drops.

I also talked to a second branch rep. Confirmed that Cashier's Checks are free. The weird loose coins and currency supplied/deposited fees doesn't apply to personal checking accounts, applies to business accounts. You can get $1000+ in cash and there would be no fees.


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Like Sleepybum said if you push in/pull out via outside bank you shouldn't have a problem. I personally haven't used Indymac's system to push/pull since no one has reported how many days it takes. Etrade push of 100k showed up at Indymac the following day.


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Alright, I have received my box of free checks for the Internet First Rate Money Market account. I got only 30 checks, 2 books of 15 each. That's kinda lame... I got more deposit slips than checks.

Oh well, guess I won't be writing a check unless it's absolutely necessary. Luckily Cashier's Checks are free.

If anyone is interested, the ABA routing number is 322270288. Guessing that's the only one for Indymac since they only have branches in SoCal, and guessing the internet/phone accounts would use the same number.

Which branch do you bank at sushiosushi? I wanna check out the cute CSRs... Only been to the Santa Monica, Manhattan Beach, and Monterey Park branches so far.


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Anyone can confirm whether there will be a hard pull for opening their MMA account?


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I opened a CD in 2001 and an account in 2004 and these did not cause a hard pull, but these were a long time ago.


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no hard pull for me for CD's, checking, or MMA this year but of course YMMV.


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WEll reading the post earlier with the link to:
http://www.ocregister.com/news/percent-class-loose-1795605-year-loans
it seems that IndyMAc is raising the Interest rates to their accounts in an effort to generate more money to cover their losses. I think this is a smart strategy and will benefit those who invest. And like others are saying, Indymac is FDIC insured and so as long as you don't go over the 100k ceiling then you should be fine unless the market crashes... . I am tempted and may take the plunge soon.


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nm ..got it.


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Just got my package in the mail and got the weird impression that my first $10k is only earning 1.7% apy, the next $15k 1.8% and anything above $25k is getting the 5.75 rate. Of course the interest won't be credited until the end of this month. Can anyone confirm otherwise?

For 50k, that is an equivalent of 3.75% and for 100k it is equivalent to 4.75%, for 150k 5%...

for some weird reason I am getting checks with this account which makes me believe the scenario above.

http://bankdeals.blogspot.com/2007/08/575-money-market-account-for-25k-tier.html looks like this website confirms my fears.


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doglar said:Just got my package in the mail and got the weird impression that my first $10k is only earning 1.7% apy, the next $15k 1.8% and anything above $25k is getting the 5.75 rate. Of course the interest won't be credited until the end of this month. Can anyone confirm otherwise?

For 50k, that is an equivalent of 3.75% and for 100k it is equivalent to 4.75%, for 150k 5%...

I think once you reach the higher level you get credit for all of your money at that higher level for that day. At least thats how mine looked. I will PM you the numbers from August and you can figure it out.

Also, confirmed last week that my cashiers check was indeed free.


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doglar said:Just got my package in the mail and got the weird impression that my first $10k is only earning 1.7% apy, the next $15k 1.8% and anything above $25k is getting the 5.75 rate. Of course the interest won't be credited until the end of this month. Can anyone confirm otherwise?

for some weird reason I am getting checks with this account which makes me believe the scenario above.

According to this page, the Internet First Rate Money Market is a "tiered" account. According to the bank's terms and conditions, found here, for tiered accounts "the interest rate and the Annual Percentage Yield (APY) are paid on the entire balance in the account as quoted for that tier."

I think you're okay.

You are getting checks with this account because it allows 3 checks/month, as stated here. If something about the welcome package gave you a "weird impression" please be more specific so we can figure this out.


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I have practically all the top yielding accounts. Usually "ckecks" and checking accounts are not what I deal with. The welcome letter saying "We have opened a CHECKING account per your request with the following terms." (They capitalized the Checking word - not me). At first I thought they had made a mistake, because CHECKING is usually not associated with the highest yielding interest accounts (my highest yielding checking with billpay etc, is 4.75% and it does not allow paper checks - the highest that allows paper checks is 3.75% - why wasn't FNBODirect a "checking"). Then I thought the rate on the letter would confirm what I opened... in the same letter the "Rate/Annual Percentage Yield: VARIABLE" (they capitalized this too - instead of stating 5.75 or whatever). I checked online, and the account is a First Rate MM and it is a "checking" account. I wish they weren't so bold with the word "CHECKING" everywhere and wished they used the term "MONEY MARKET" instead or something that might not make you think you have a mere "checking account". Because of these weird things, and knowing that most high yield internet rates rarely allow "checks" (to avoid letting the money "get away" too easily - and they supposedly capitalize on being entirely electronic (no paper checks) which allows the higher rates etc..and because I never got checks with my 3 previous Indymac accounts) (especially when their money transfer website severely limits inbound and outbound transfers to $2500 transfer per day and 25,000 per month - lowest I have ever seen in an internet only account and laughable when the rate "kicks in" at $25k)...so I got weirded out. I have sent an email to the bank to get a response to this.


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doglar said:I have practically all the top yielding accounts. Usually "ckecks" and checking accounts are not what I deal with. The welcome letter saying "We have opened a CHECKING account per your request with the following terms." (They capitalized the Checking word - not me). At first I thought they had made a mistake, because CHECKING is usually not associated with the highest yielding interest accounts (my highest yielding checking with billpay etc, is 4.75% and it does not allow paper checks - the highest that allows paper checks is 3.75% - why wasn't FNBODirect a "checking"). Then I thought the rate on the letter would confirm what I opened... in the same letter the "Rate/Annual Percentage Yield: VARIABLE" (they capitalized this too - instead of stating 5.75 or whatever). I checked online, and the account is a First Rate MM and it is a "checking" account. I wish they weren't so bold with the word "CHECKING" everywhere and wished they used the term "MONEY MARKET" instead or something that might not make you think you have a mere "checking account". Because of these weird things, and knowing that most high yield internet rates rarely allow "checks" (to avoid letting the money "get away" too easily - and they supposedly capitalize on being entirely electronic (no paper checks) which allows the higher rates etc..and because I never got checks with my 3 previous Indymac accounts) (especially when their money transfer website severely limits inbound and outbound transfers to $2500 transfer per day and 25,000 per month - lowest I have ever seen in an internet only account and laughable when the rate "kicks in" at $25k)...so I got weirded out. I have sent an email to the bank to get a response to this.

1.It is coded as a checking account because it allows check writing.
2.Your other MMA accounts at Indymac never received checks because they don't allow checks (the First Rate MMA is the only one that allows checks).
3.It lists the rate as VARIABLE because the rate changes and is also dependent on your balance. If they listed 5.75% APY then someone is going to complain when they reduce rates in the future and say something like "hey your letter said 5.75% so give me 5.75%". Or else you might deposit 100k and get that 5.75% yield and then withdraw 99k leaving a balance of 1k and say "give my my 5.75% APY" even though you don't qualify for that tier anymore".
4.The State Bank of Toledo has 6% "checking account".
5.Why do you care what the title on the account is as long as you get the correct rate?
6.The only thing you need to worry about is how long the high yield is going to last (well you'll also need to worry about FDIC insurance if you are putting in a lot of $$$).


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I have no evidence that I am getting the correct rate...not in correspondence with my account number, not by login into my account ...that is the entire problem. I am really going to get 5.75 on the entire balance when the balance exceeds $25k? I do not want park my money at 4% right now when I can get a much better rate. (but that's just me I am sure)

Bank of Toledo has all kinds of hoops you have to jump through and a great 0.25% rate if you fail to jump through one of the hoops. And notice that it does not include "check writing" as one of the perks of their 6% rate "checking" account. Only checking accounts yielding under 1% interest have "check writing" available as listed as one of the perks. (I was referring to straight up checking rates - no intro teaser rates & no hoops or juggling or obstacle course to go through each month - this is like a sale w/ 50% off - just entices spending to "save" - something we don't need as a society).

To earn the Bonus Rate, perform the following requirements each cycle:
10 Check Card Transactions
One Direct Deposit or ACH Auto Debit
Receive Electronic Statement
* and handover your firstborn child
*6.01 Annual Percentage Yield (APY) paid on all amounts each cycle if the minimum requirements are met. If you do not meet the requirements per cycle, your account will still function as a free checking account earning 0.25% APY, however it will not receive ATM refunds for that time period. Rates as of June 12, 2007. We may change the interest rate and APY at any time after the account is opened. No Minimum Balance Required. However you must deposit a minimum of $100.00 to open this account. Available to Personal Accounts only. No monthly service charge.

A checking account with a maximum of 3 checks...who would have thought of it...who would suspect
the web page (see link in thread) about the First rate account does not state the word "checking" anywhere ...ability to write 3 checks per cycle usually does not make the account a "checking account". I would expect the bank to know the difference between an MMA and a checking account and the laws pertaining to each type...or what if this really WAS a checking account? Hey, I hope I am wrong....for all our sakes. Hopefully, this is not a cleaver marketing ploy to get us to put our money there for a 4% rate. They sure don't make their lives easier with all the ambiguity ...

why not clear up the potential confusion like ing
http://home.ingdirect.com/products/products.asp?s=ElectricOrange
"For example, if your balance is $55,000, you earn a great 5.25% APY on the entire balance. "
Who's pocketing YOURRe wallet?


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edited: I've deleted my post...it's better that you stay with your 5.25% ING so you can sleep better at night.


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I too had that issue ..But after you log in click on "First Rate Money Market link" under ACCOUNT NAME . On the right end of the black bar there is a ACCOUNT INFO link . Click that and a popup comes up which shows 5.60% interest which is about 5.75% APY.

doglar said:I have no evidence that I am getting the correct rate...not in correspondence with my account number, not by login into my account ...that is the entire problem. I am really going to get 5.75 on the entire balance when the balance exceeds $25k? I do not want park my money at 4% right now when I can get a much better rate. (but that's just me I am sure)

Bank of Toledo has all kinds of hoops you have to jump through and a great 0.25% rate if you fail to jump through one of the hoops. And notice that it does not include "check writing" as one of the perks of their 6% rate "checking" account. Only checking accounts yielding under 1% interest have "check writing" available as listed as one of the perks. (I was referring to straight up checking rates - no intro teaser rates & no hoops or juggling or obstacle course to go through each month - this is like a sale w/ 50% off - just entices spending to "save" - something we don't need as a society).

To earn the Bonus Rate, perform the following requirements each cycle:
10 Check Card Transactions
One Direct Deposit or ACH Auto Debit
Receive Electronic Statement
* and handover your firstborn child
*6.01 Annual Percentage Yield (APY) paid on all amounts each cycle if the minimum requirements are met. If you do not meet the requirements per cycle, your account will still function as a free checking account earning 0.25% APY, however it will not receive ATM refunds for that time period. Rates as of June 12, 2007. We may change the interest rate and APY at any time after the account is opened. No Minimum Balance Required. However you must deposit a minimum of $100.00 to open this account. Available to Personal Accounts only. No monthly service charge.

A checking account with a maximum of 3 checks...who would have thought of it...who would suspect
the web page (see link in thread) about the First rate account does not state the word "checking" anywhere ...ability to write 3 checks per cycle usually does not make the account a "checking account". I would expect the bank to know the difference between an MMA and a checking account and the laws pertaining to each type...or what if this really WAS a checking account? Hey, I hope I am wrong....for all our sakes. Hopefully, this is not a cleaver marketing ploy to get us to put our money there for a 4% rate. They sure don't make their lives easier with all the ambiguity ...

why not clear up the potential confusion like ing
http://home.ingdirect.com/products/products.asp?s=ElectricOrange
"For example, if your balance is $55,000, you earn a great 5.25% APY on the entire balance. "
Who's pocketing YOURRe wallet?


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jackcrawfish said:MikeR397 said:This rate looks great, but too bad they can't guarantee it for at least 90 days. They do have a tendancy to change rates a lot and with thier fees involved, I'm not sure I'm going to hop in.4 month CD option looks tempting @ 5.75 APYI just received signature card today for 4 month CD internet promo @5.75% APY. It says I need to have the funds there by the 14th. I have 3 biz days to get $50k there. How long do wires take? (ie from FNBO) One day? 2?

Also, the cover letter lists the 5.60 APR/5.75 APY. However there is an asterisk which tells me to "Pleas see the enclosed rate sheet for more information." The enclosure is the rate sheet for "Call Center Rates" and does not sync up with the internat promo 5.75 APY. What does that mean?!!

Any advice on wires is appreciated, I'll call Indy in the morning too.....


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