Within the past 90 days: I was approved for: $2500 credit line from peachdirect.com ($800 current Balance) . $7500 Platinum Visa ($900 Balance) 0%APR for 1 yr $500 Geico Mastercard ($400 Balance) 0%APR for 1 yr
I have 2 Negatives First one on my credit is dating back to 4/2001 . Im told this will be removed from my credit report sometime around 3/2008. Is it better to negotiate with the company that holds the debt or just play the waiting game? The company has contacted me and told me they would accept $879 to pay it off in full.
The second item dates back to 5/2007 .. Its a unpaid cell phone bill in collections. I had totally forgot about. I will pay this in full, but is there any way or any lingo I can use to have them remove it from my credit?
FW finance is for people w/ good credit. you need to go to creditboards.com and read up on disputing your bad credit.
elleve
Ancient Member
posted: Aug. 26, 2007 @ 1:02a
bitterdog said: The second item dates back to 5/2007 .. Its a unpaid cell phone bill in collections. I had totally forgot about. I will pay this in full, but is there any way or any lingo I can use to have them remove it from my credit?
No, it will remain on there for 7 years, regardless of whether it's paid or not. Although Collection Agencies can sell your debt around, thus making it stay on your credit report for more than 7 years, if not paid.
I believe you can dispute it, but I'm not certain of the exact methods, and I don't think anyone on these forums have had similar experiences.
And just for future reference, FW probably isn't the right group for you to be asking about credit repair problems.
vaylon
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Aug. 26, 2007 @ 6:47a
Do not pay a dime on the old debt. Just ignore it. When a letter arrives from the collection people?, just mark return to sender and toss it in the mailbox. The old debt will fall off and eventually you can also have the collection accounts removed with disputes. Don't ever try and be nice to a collection person, it will come back to bite you. Keep up the good work.
And yes, we have uber snobs her on FWF. Can't wait for the day when some of their sorry carcases come in here for advice because of situations out of their control.
WalStMonky
Happy Member
posted: Aug. 26, 2007 @ 8:57a
it will remain on there for 7 years, regardless of whether it's paid or not. Although Collection Agencies can sell your debt around, thus making it stay on your credit report for more than 7 years, if not paid.
That's a direct violation of the FCRA and would entitle the victim to statutory damages.
turrdog
Thrifty Member
posted: Aug. 26, 2007 @ 9:18a
Squeezer99 said: FW finance is for people w/ good credit. you need to go to creditboards.com and read up on disputing your bad credit.
So I can't come here anymore?
codename47
Senior Member - 3K
posted: Aug. 26, 2007 @ 9:43a
No, it will remain on there for 7 years, regardless of whether it's paid or not. Although Collection Agencies can sell your debt around, thus making it stay on your credit report for more than 7 years, if not paid. I wish someone would leave something bad on my report for more than 7 years using this excuse.
I believe you can dispute it, but I'm not certain of the exact methods, and I don't think anyone on these forums have had similar experiences. You can dispute it. Write them a letter saying "I dispute". I have had similar experiences. Try searching.
Vaylon said: Can't wait for the day when some of their sorry carcases come in here for advice because of situations out of their control. Such as spending money we do not have for gadgets, or 'forgetting' to pay a phone bill ? You may have a long wait.
But your insecurities are really besides the point. The typical FWF reader has excellent credit only transiently marred by excessive credit inquiries and high debt:credit ratios from aggressive balance transfers. So the chief advice around here is 1. wait 6 months, and 2. the next AOR has to wait until the old BT's are paid off. That advice is useless to a person in collections. In general, this forum has a lot of collective information how to profit from a high credit score.
But OP is asking how to deal with unpaid bills and a trashed credit score, and for that this forum has minimal experience; and in general little interest in discussing. The advice to go to a forum where deadbeats learn to repair their credit from others who have expertise in getting it done is spot on.
Grobe
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 26, 2007 @ 10:13a
vaylon said: Do not pay a dime on the old debt. Just ignore it. When a letter arrives from the collection people?, just mark return to sender and toss it in the mailbox. The old debt will fall off and eventually you can also have the collection accounts removed with disputes. Don't ever try and be nice to a collection person, it will come back to bite you. Keep up the good work.
I'm surprised at this advice. Many of us believe the moral thing to do is to pay our debts. As to best way to do this (in terms of having the payment show up on our credit report/improve our credit rankings), I don't know--ask as creditboards...
turrdog said: Squeezer99 said: FW finance is for people w/ good credit. you need to go to creditboards.com and read up on disputing your bad credit.
So I can't come here anymore?
no you can come here. but creditboards.com is the proper place for discussing bad credit and credit repair.
bitterdog
New Member
posted: Aug. 26, 2007 @ 1:50p
Wow.. this really cracks me up how some of you are jumping all over me.
If you read and COMPREHEND.. you will see I am asking the so called CREDIT EXPERTS with good credit...I am not a DEAD BEAT I want to make good on all my outstanding debt, Im not looking for some Credit Repair Scam. I wasn't asking for a lesson in morality from the Snobs of the Forum.
vaylon
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Aug. 26, 2007 @ 2:15p
Grobe said: [ I'm surprised at this advice. Many of us believe the moral thing to do is to pay our debts. As to best way to do this (in terms of having the payment show up on our credit report/improve our credit rankings), I don't know--ask as creditboards...
Bringing Morals into a financial discussion on this board is a joke. We will rape a young company if they will let us. We will pull the profits right out of some hurting companies hands just so we can get 250 in gift cards. Some poor banker at BOA most likely lost his job for the "lets give them 250 cash to open an account".
As for my advice? I stand by it.
I work with a lot of people every year getting their credit up from whatever reason's. 90% come from stupidity and ignorance. Hopefully they learn their lessons and tread carefully in the future. But collections agencies have no morals, no rules and will screw you over in a heartbeat.
I use the federal and state laws to my advantage when it comes to dealing with other peoples debt's. If the state law says that a debt is invalid after 3 years. The creditor has to abide by the law, but can get by it by dealing with people who don't know the law.(every state is diff).
Paying your bill is not a moral thing, it's a smart thing. Not being able to pay your bills has nothing to do with morals either but more to do with common sense or lack there of.
And never put yourself better than other's, karma or god has a way of knocking you off your high horse to give ubber's a little humility.
I will help people rebuild what they have lost without a moral judgment. But if grandma's house has unpaid taxes? I'll be one of the first one's to pay the back taxes and in a couple of years send granny a bill for the back taxes and a nice 45% interest rate and if she can't pay? I get granny's house.
No moral judgment, just business.
ArbolLoco
Tired Member
posted: Aug. 26, 2007 @ 3:55p
Grobe said: Many of us believe the moral thing to do is to pay our debts.If it made business sense for me not to pay a debt [business or personal], I wouldn't pay it and I wouldn't lose 3 seconds of sleep over it.
The only situation I can think of where it would be "immoral" not to pay a debt was if you obtained a loan fraudulently and/or spent the money with no intent of ever repaying it at the time you spent it.
bitterdog
New Member
posted: Aug. 26, 2007 @ 4:26p
Squeezer99 said: FW finance is for people w/ good credit. you need to go to creditboards.com and read up on disputing your bad credit.
This is quite odd. I read this forums FAQ.. I don't seem to see anywhere where it says "This forum is for people who Have good credit"
WalStMonky
Happy Member
posted: Aug. 26, 2007 @ 4:30p
Lots of posters are under the mistaken impression that this forum is an exclusive club of some kind. I was told once that I didn't belong here because I take regular cash advances from my USAA credit cards! Just ignore these pathological posters and their mental problems.
atobias
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 26, 2007 @ 5:08p
Congrats for wanting to own up to your debts. Deadbeats will call you a fool and advise you to apply laws meant to help victims of identity theft but just ignore them. I would go ahead and try to negotiate with the company. Maybe you can exchange a payment for removal of the tradeline from your reports.
I'd stay away from that other website mentioned here. That site is full of bad advice and fraudulent methods. Most people who go there end up in an even worse situation a year or two later after they've ran up all the new cards they obtained using advice given there.
elleve said: No, it will remain on there for 7 years, regardless of whether it's paid or not.
That's why you negotiate a payment for deletion with whoever is reporting. (after they prove that they currently have the right to collect/report the debt)
Although Collection Agencies can sell your debt around, thus making it stay on your credit report for more than 7 years, if not paid.
bzzt, wrong. You can't just manufacture a new statute of limitations on reporting, it's based on the original date of first delinquency, unless the consumer brings it current and then defaults on it again. If they try this, do a FACTA dispute directly with the data furnisher, putting them on notice that it's re-aged and you know it. Then dispute with the CRA, and if it comes back verified, apply for a mortgage, get denied, and sue them for $100,000. They will think twice about reaging accounts after that happens to them a couple of times.
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