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5 inquiries showed up on Experian - HSBC, WAMU, Local Credit union, Discover, and AMEX

TU CS reduced from 799 to 796


I have an inquiry from Household Bank. Would you know which card is this for?

TIA


hsbc


Few questions:

1. For both Discover applications (More and Driver) got a strange letter saying "our recoreds inidicate that we are processing or have already processed a prior application from you. Therefore, this application has been canceled."

I think they are refering to the 0% for life card which is approved. But these cards were different than those. Don't know why it it like this. Anybody seen this before? I will call them tomorrow.

2. I would like to wait till I get all the cards before starting BTs. Do you think is there any issue with that?

3. I received the Sony card, with one BT check. I need to make one purchase to get the $100 credit. So, I will do the purchase before th BT. Can the credit be used to pay the minimum paymnet or will i tbe adjusted to the BT amount?

TIA


2 - Most BTs tend to expire at a fixed time in the future. Therefore, it behooves you to get that money in play as soon as possible. I will only delay doing a BT for a few reasons:
a) I don't know the amount yet (I'm still consolidating cards)
b) I don't know the destination yet (want to transfer to a a card I don't have yet)
c) Or I need to keep my credit profile fairly clean for another month (unlikely)

3 - The sony card is 0% on purchases as well as BTs, right? In that case, it doesn't matter when you do the purchase, just do the BT and leave a couple of bucks to buy some taffy. The only reason to delay would be if you want want to make a purchase, wait for the bonus, get a credit refund, then do the BT... but that would add a month or two to the process, so I wouldn't recommend it.


DreamR2I said: Few questions:

1. For both Discover applications (More and Driver) got a strange letter saying "our recoreds inidicate that we are processing or have already processed a prior application from you. Therefore, this application has been canceled."

I think they are refering to the 0% for life card which is approved. But these cards were different than those. Don't know why it it like this. Anybody seen this before? I will call them tomorrow.
I guess Discover only allows you to apply one personal card at one time. Anyway, there is no need to apply multiple cards from them. If they approve you, they will just take some CL away from your existing cards. This applies to business CC as well. When I got my Discover business CC approved, they just took some CL from my personal card.

DreamR2I said: 2. I would like to wait till I get all the cards before starting BTs. Do you think is there any issue with that?I wouldn't do so. As a matter of fact, I am more pro-active. I called them to see if I get the CCs approved after a few days. If so, I request BT over the phone. At that time, I don't even receive the CCs yet. I agree with Mark - time is money.

DreamR2I said: 3. I received the Sony card, with one BT check. I need to make one purchase to get the $100 credit. So, I will do the purchase before th BT. Can the credit be used to pay the minimum paymnet or will i tbe adjusted to the BT amount?Also same comments as Mark. In my AOR, it turns out that half of the CCs that have 0% APR promotion on BT also have 0% APR on purchase. So you don't really have to wait. In addition, if you have a big CL that you can BT, you shouldn't mind doing it first, and then go ahead to purchase something like $1. The interest that you lost in waiting will be more than what you have to pay for the high rate interest on $1.


Thanks for the replies.

Yes, Found out about Discover's 10 month record on for the first card the hard way. I was only approved for 25k 0% life card, others apps cancelled.

On holding on the BTs, I will only wait till I get response on all the cards to determine whine ones to max out and which one not.

jleung, how did you do the BTs before getting the BT check? Transfer to Citi card?

Is there any possiblity of getting the CL increased on the new cards, If I call them? I will try to use BT as bait, let's see what happens.


Got Discover card today. There are no BT checks with the package. Do they send them later or Should I call and request?

TIA


DreamR2I said: Got Discover card today. There are no BT checks with the package. Do they send them later or Should I call and request?

TIA

Call and request.


1. Called Discover, they said I should get the convinience check within next 1-2 months. Does it usually take that long? I am thinking of calling them again in a couple of days. Would that help?

2. Got Chase card with 12.3k limit, transfered 9k CL from my United/Chase card to increase the limit on new card to 21.3k. The reason I did that is new chase has 17 months 0% BT.

3. Chase sony card with this AOR has a CL of 10.5k. Would they allow me to trasnfer that CL of that the above chase? If yes, I would like to consolidate BT on one card, reducing the BT fee ($50 for Sony and $75 for chase)? Is this preferred?

4. My plan is to do BT up to 88% on the two major cards - 1) Chase becuase it has 17 month 0% 2) Discover, becuase it has 0% for life. I will keep the other AOR cards at 48% and overall ~30%. Should this be okay or you guys advise me not to reach 88% on the two cards?

TIA


You should be able to consolidate the two Chase cards. But I doubt they'd lower the BT fee on one card to "pricematch" the other. I think you should do the math to see if it's better to save $25 bucks on the fee, or extend the BT for another 5 months.

Only maxing out two cards (neither of them AMX) is a fairly conservative way of doing things. It substantially reduces your chance of adverse action. Personally, I'm greedy and maxed out more cards.


markkundinger said: You should be able to consolidate the two Chase cards. But I doubt they'd lower the BT fee on one card to "pricematch" the other. I think you should do the math to see if it's better to save $25 bucks on the fee, or extend the BT for another 5 months.

Only maxing out two cards (neither of them AMX) is a fairly conservative way of doing things. It substantially reduces your chance of adverse action. Personally, I'm greedy and maxed out more cards.

What was the effect of maxing out on most cards? I bet the Credit score gto hit badly, but did it recover after some time? Did any of your AOR card companies can cancel/increase APR?


I have an interesting situation:

Citi has sent me two Drivers Edge cards, each with differnt no. and diff CLs (7.5k and 6.8k). Now I recollect that the during the application phase the page got disconnected and looks like I refreshed it. That may have resulted in multiple applications.

Should this be a problem? I don't think so, I thin I will consolidate the CLs on one card, if possible.

What do you think?

TIA


DreamR2I said: What was the effect of maxing out on most cards? I bet the Credit score gto hit badly, but did it recover after some time? Did any of your AOR card companies can cancel/increase APR?
I've got my own lengthy topic also. But short versoin, this time I had a FAKO drop of 100 points. My first AOR had a FAKO drop of nearly 150 points. On first AOR, credit line decreases from Chase. This one, nothing (yet).


Another quick question:

Is it better to do multiple BTs with all the new cards issued (in AOR) by same company (e.g. 3 cards of Citi) or consolidate on one card to have a big single BT? All the cards have same BT conditions (fee, 0% APR duration etc.)

What are the pros and cons of each option?

TIA


DreamR2I said: Another quick question:

Is it better to do multiple BTs with all the new cards issued (in AOR) by same company (e.g. 3 cards of Citi) or consolidate on one card to have a big single BT? All the cards have same BT conditions (fee, 0% APR duration etc.)

What are the pros and cons of each option?

TIA
I would say it is better to consolidate on one card to have a big single BT. If there is a fee, why would you want to pay multiple times? Even if not, there will be enough cards for you to manage. You have to deal with the statement closing date, payment due date, pay minimum amount+, pay back the total before the 0% APR offer expires, etc. Less card is obviously more desirable for me.

I don't see any pros of the other option.


One other thing: same balance on multiple cards is generally worse than on a single card from the score perspective. Not too many people know the formula, but the fact that having a balance on more than 4-5 cards is bad is talked about quite frequently.


jleung/cyberkost,

Thanks for the reply. I want to transfer CL from Citi Driver's edge to AT&T Citi card. But they say that other card being AT&T not pure Citi, they can't transfer CL, however they can close drivers edge and consolidate the CL with AT&T.

Does closing a brand new card (2days old) hurt me in any way. I understand that it wouldn't hurt the credit histroy that much. I am worried about Citi not taking it easily in the long run.

Anybody done this before/ prior experiences?

TIA


bumping up for attention..

Any answers pls??


DreamR2I said: jleung/cyberkost,

Thanks for the reply. I want to transfer CL from Citi Driver's edge to AT&T Citi card. But they say that other card being AT&T not pure Citi, they can't transfer CL, however they can close drivers edge and consolidate the CL with AT&T.

Does closing a brand new card (2days old) hurt me in any way. I understand that it wouldn't hurt the credit histroy that much. I am worried about Citi not taking it easily in the long run.

Anybody done this before/ prior experiences?

TIA

Ok, I think AT&T not being pure CITI is BS. So, first thing I would do is to call a few more times to see if different CSRs tell the same story. If it is true that the only way to go ahead is to close Driver's Edge, than go ahead and do it if you so desire (after taking all of its CL over to AT&T, obviously). You won't lose much (perhaps you just got the extra ding on your CR for nothing but a larger CL on your AT&T). I don't see what CITI will not take easily in the long run (this is to say that I've never heard of anybody denied a card or a CLI b/c (s)he has closed a fairly new card in the past).


Thanks.


cyberkost said: Ok, I think AT&T not being pure CITI is BS. So, first thing I would do is to call a few more times to see if different CSRs tell the same story.I agree with cyberkost. You should be able to get a CSR to re-allocate the CL for you without closing the account. Try calling the 1-800 number at the back of each card. It may help too.

I have successfully re-allocate all my credit line (from AA, old Universal, old Dividend) into the new AT&T card. Later on, I re-allocate the CL to the Citi business card, where I did my BT there.


I have Citi Sears and Citi can't reallocate/consolidate it to other ones.
Tried with 3 different CSRs, same answer everytime. They call it "private label".


I tried three CSRs last night on three different cards. got three different answers:

1. Can't transfer because of not citi
2. Can't trasnfer but can close the card and consolidate the CL
3. Can't do either because both source and destination cards have special feature (0% APR)

I will try couple more tonight and atleast reduce 4 cards to 2.

Thanks


DreamR2I said: I tried three CSRs last night on three different cards. got three different answers:

1. Can't transfer because of not citi
2. Can't trasnfer but can close the card and consolidate the CL
3. Can't do either because both source and destination cards have special feature (0% APR)

I will try couple more tonight and atleast reduce 4 cards to 2.

Thanks
Try calling the Citi CC application status dept from this thread:
Citi----------
Phone: 888-201-4523 (7AM-7PM Central, Mon to Fri)

Tell them that you have just applied a new Citi CC recently and would like to check the status. Then try to re-allocate CL from there.

These people may be easier to deal with, and/or have more power to allocate CLs between cards.


Dang! When I checked my BoA account summary online, found out that exisiting CL was reassinged to new cards, net, I didn't get any increase. Is there any use to call and complain, as they didn't even mention this to me?

TIA


I've had no luck trying to reallocate CL from Citi Sears card and Citi Exxon/Mobil card to Citi Rewards card. I was able to move 5K from Citi Upromise card to Citi Rewards card.


After at least 15 calls with various CSRs and different permutations and combinations of my 5 Citi cards (4 new+1 old), I was not able to reallocate/consolidate any of the CLs. Don't know whether I lack talking skills or rules have been tightened now.

I have asked for BT checks on both individual cards, which would result in $150 BT fees.

I am still trying till I get the BT checks, but not hopeful of a positive outcome.


Did anybody get into AMEX CR without doing BT?

Adverse Actions:
1. AMEX did a FR although I didn't do any BT with them. Asking for 34k to 60k limit might have been the trigger. I passed unscathed, as everything on my application was truthful (employment, income etc). Only inconvinience was my costco-AMEX card was frozen for a week, when I was travelling abroad and was looking to earn 2% on travel and 3% on hotel expenses


Yep, others have gotten FR's from AMX without doing a BT request. (not me personally, though) So you're not alone.


Thanks..

markkundinger said: Yep, others have gotten FR's from AMX without doing a BT request. (not me personally, though) So you're not alone.


Quick question:

Is there any -ve in adding wife to my non BT cards as added user? For example, my AMEX Blue cash has zero balance and is purely used to keep total utilization low. Is there any -ve if I add her to this card?

She also has her own AMEX blue cash card wtih zero balance as well.

TIA


Got a letter from Citi saying they are reducing the CL on my dividend card (non AOR/BT) from 10k to 1.5k because of high balances.

Any chance I can fight/persuade them to bring it back without paying the AOR balances?

TIA


For Citibank... you might get some mileage. One FWFer got some temporary reliefe with Citibank when they closed some cards after an AOR.

As for adding the wife as a joint user. It could, theoretically, boost her utilization figures. It could also reduce her average age if these are new cards. Most importantly, the loophole of having authorized user status count towards credit scoring will eventually be closing, so it won't matter in the future.

The usual rule of thumb is to keep credit reports segregated when AOR'ing. And I'd probably stick with it out of simplicity.


markkundinger said: For Citibank... you might get some mileage. One FWFer got some temporary reliefe with Citibank when they closed some cards after an AOR.

As for adding the wife as a joint user. It could, theoretically, boost her utilization figures. It could also reduce her average age if these are new cards. Most importantly, the loophole of having authorized user status count towards credit scoring will eventually be closing, so it won't matter in the future.
This is the idea, use it when you can..

The usual rule of thumb is to keep credit reports segregated when AOR'ing. And I'd probably stick with it out of simplicity.

What do you mean by simplicity, can you explain pls?


If you make the wife AU on some of the cards, but then later jack up the balances, then you'll need to un-AU her to keep it from slamming her credit. And this is all for a credit score benefit which will be going away soon.

Or, for simplicity, you could just avoid making her an AU in the first place.


Got it.

As mentioned earlier, the intention is to add to only those cards that don't have balance.

The reason for adding is not just the credit history benefit. But more so to show an exisiting relationship. During the WOR, I cosnistenely observed that the card comapanies that had wife as added user gave her card, where as the others didn't. All this inspite of her having "thin file."

I suggest that anybody planning to do WOR with wives having short credit hsitory, add them as authorized users and then apply for card.

Thanks

markkundinger said: If you make the wife AU on some of the cards, but then later jack up the balances, then you'll need to un-AU her to keep it from slamming her credit. And this is all for a credit score benefit which will be going away soon.

Or, for simplicity, you could just avoid making her an AU in the first place.


Hi,

Chase reduced CL on my BT card from $30,800 to $26,500. The new limit is $1000 more than the balance I have on the card.

Any possibility I can talk them into bring it back? Any pointers/tips?

TIA


I called them, the financial analyst said the reason is high debt (105k). I told about my high income ($150k). She asked why I have thtqa much of debt. I didn't tell her about 0% APR. Should I told her the truth? If so, would that make any difference?

TIA


DreamR2I said: I called them, the financial analyst said the reason is high debt (105k). I told about my high income ($150k). She asked why I have thtqa much of debt. I didn't tell her about 0% APR. Should I told her the truth? If so, would that make any difference?

TIA
Why wouldnt you tell her "Its at 0% so I dont see a need to pay it off right now; I'm going to keep the money in my savings account until the rate goes up."? Would it have made a difference? Who knows. But any story you made up hurt your chances more than the truth would've.




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