I know this does not work with every issuer, but there is a possibility of lengthening your BT promo period by moving back your statement date. Even if it doesn't change the due date, this tactic can make your monthly payments more organized (ie all due at the same time), and at a minimum, this will postpone how soon you make your monthly payments. Depending on if you have a sizeable BT out, this could allow time for quite a bit more interest earning to happen. Furthermore, I believe you can change your statement date more than once, usually every three months, so you could possibly earn over two extra months of 0% BT promo this way.
If anyone has data on which cards this works on, please add it to the QS or post it.
I have not made the calls yet to verify, and I'm not sure how I will word it when I do, but here are a few examples of cards that this might work for:
Cards that it may be possible to lengthen the 0% BT period and their T/C:
1. RBS Platinum Card: "Balance Transfer APR: 0.0% until the first day of your eleventh billing cycle"
2. RBS Kroger 123: Balance Transfer APR: A fixed introductory rate of 0% will apply through the first twelve billing cycles of your Account
3. National City Visa: 0% APR valid for 6 billing cycles when you transfer a balance within the first 60 days after account opening
4. US Bank Baylor Card: 0.00% for the first 12 billing cycles
Now, given these above language of the TC for BT promos, it would appear you have a chance of extending your promo period by changing your statement date. However, despite this language, this is not always the case. I think Chase's TC say similar info to what is shown above, but I have asked over the phone and they said changing your statement date will not extend you BT. And on a related not, just becuase a T/C says "BT for 12 months from date...", this doesn't necessarly rule out the possiblity of lengthening the BT promo either.
There are a lot of cards out there with T/C language similar to this. Howvever, I think this is a YMMV situation, and I want to collect some data on others experiences with this.
************************************************** UPDATE: Anecdotal success has been reported with the following issuers:
Discover (lhendricks92 and Rorer714) Bank of America (lhendricks92)
Cards that this has been reported it does NOT work on:
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posted: Aug. 26, 2007 @ 7:47p
zaza
Member
posted: Aug. 26, 2007 @ 8:20p
Thanks a good idea. I've been meaning to call up all my credit cards and ask them to change my statement date to the 28th of the month. I know that most credit cards allow you to change it. The balance transfers offer usually ends on the statement date of a certain month so you can maximize the length by having a late statement month. Not only that you'll be better organized to pay all your bills at the same time.
Rorer714
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 27, 2007 @ 12:58a
I have done this with Chase, Citi and Discover. Chase and Citi I received an extra 2 weeks. Discover I received an extra 5 weeks. They changed it based on the due date and not the statement closing date. Chase can be done online.
bpydimer
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 27, 2007 @ 9:38a
What a hassle just to get an extra 2 weeks or so!! I do my AOR every 6 or so months (3 years running)...essentially 0% on balance for lifetime <fingers crossed>.
MikeR397
Senior Member - 3K
posted: Aug. 27, 2007 @ 9:44a
bpydimer said: What a hassle just to get an extra 2 weeks or so!! I do my AOR every 6 or so months (3 years running)...essentially 0% on balance for lifetime <fingers crossed>.I have 900k of BT money out right now earning 5.65%, so the hassel of doing this could earn me upwards of $2,000 or more. I understand the principal you are using with "continued AORS" but I'm not sure I will get as much money out the second time as I may not be able to consolidate with every previous card and my maximum credit exposure level may have already been reached. I have a large interest in extending a 70k Business BT for as long as I possibly can in any situation.
Also, how are you doing an AOR every six months when some of your offers must be for 12 months +? If you do a AOR (unless it is business credit only) with big balances showing at the six month period, how are you able to keep getting big lines? I'm assuming you are also bumping all those inquiries off TU and EQ, but if they pull EX, then how are you doing an AOR every 6 months?
markkundinger
Senior Member - 2K
posted: Aug. 27, 2007 @ 10:53a
Another type of language used is "through the statement date on your xx month".
Rorer714
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 27, 2007 @ 1:23p
bpydimer said: What a hassle just to get an extra 2 weeks or so!! I do my AOR every 6 or so months (3 years running)...essentially 0% on balance for lifetime <fingers crossed>. The reason I did it was for convenience. All my accounts close between the 23rd and 28th of each month. But on the other hand, 5 weeks on 22000 is a little over $100 for five minutes work.
lhendricks92
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Aug. 27, 2007 @ 1:31p
I've done this successfully with Bank of America and Discover. This strategy doesn't work for Citi, as their BTs are usually X number of months "from the date of the first transfer." Chase seems to fix the BT end date independently of your statement date, so no go with Chase.
MikeR397
Senior Member - 3K
posted: Aug. 27, 2007 @ 2:00p
I've added an Update to the OP based on some of the feedback.
Rorer714, I did not include Citi or Chase in the affirmative section b/c I have not been able to do this and neither has lhendricks92. Despite Chase's language, they give me a specific day on the phone for when my BT is due back and have stated that it does not change. However, I will see what others say. Thanks for the positive info on Discover also.
Lhendricks, thanks for the confirmation on Discover and BOA. I also don't believe Citi/Chase will work, but I may call again to verify based on others feedback.
Anyone else have success or failure trying to move back a statement due date? Anyone called and asked about this?
MikeR397 said: I've added an Update to the OP based on some of the feedback.
Rorer714, I did not include Citi or Chase in the affirmative section b/c I have not been able to do this and neither has lhendricks92. Despite Chase's language, they give me a specific day on the phone for when my BT is due back and have stated that it does not change. However, I will see what others say. Thanks for the positive info on Discover also.
Lhendricks, thanks for the confirmation on Discover and BOA. I also don't believe Citi/Chase will work, but I may call again to verify based on others feedback.
Anyone else have success or failure trying to move back a statement due date? Anyone called and asked about this?I changed my due date on chase. I can't say exactly how it affected my BT because the CSR advised me in writing of one date, then they charged me interest before the date came. Which is to say, don't pay attention to what they say, pay attention to what they write, and make sure after you change the date, that you THEN ask, in writing, "what is the last date by when the balance must be paid in full in order to avoid paying interest, assuming no further purchases are made?" Then, if they charge you interest before that date at least you'll have a writing to cause them to correct themselves (which is what Chase did for me). [In other words, again, don't try to figure anything out on your own. Best you can hope to do is "fight" for a new date if the date they confirm in writing seems to have "shorted" you 0% time].
Rorer714
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 28, 2007 @ 12:13a
Citi – My original closing date was the 10th and I changed it to the 25th. This BT was paid off on 6/25/07 with no problems.
Chase – My original closing date was the 13th and was changed online to the 28th. After a few emails to CSR this is the wording they used to when my 0% ends, “until your March statement opening date”.
Maybe others can post a little more information so we can figure out why this works sometimes.
MikeR397
Senior Member - 3K
posted: Aug. 28, 2007 @ 12:03p
Rorer714 said: Maybe others can post a little more information so we can figure out why this works sometimes. BUMP. Come on people, don't tell me that there is no more knowledge or data to be had on this topic!
I've delayed the clock from starting by requesting a change to my due date and made random payments...
My story:
PRINCIPAL 1-877-875-8078 LINE=14,000 BT$=9600 Util%=69% ________ = 08/05 Req $9,600 to CITI Div Plat Select ________ = 08-06 $9,600 posts to Principal card ________ = 08-06 AMOCO OIL 06615108 4.15 ________ = 08-08 PAYMENT - THANK YOU ($4.15) ________ = 08-15 12:12PM CST ... I requested online a "statement date" for the 5th trying for a due date of the 30th. Response was: per your request your new due date will be anywhere from the 6th - 9th of the month ________ = 08-20 1:54PM CST ... I RE-requested online a "DUE date" for the 30th because my original request was not understood. Response was: per your request, your new due date will be anywhere from the 31st ? 3rd of the month ________ = 08-21 PAYMENT - THANK YOU ($10.00) ________ = 09-07 PAYMENT - THANK YOU ($200.00) ________ = 09-17 PAYMENT - THANK YOU ($100.00) ________ = 09-21 CALLED IN ASKING FOR STATEMENT DATE!???! "WHEN DO I NEED TO PAY YOU?"
BTW, my credit reports still do not reflect this card as opened....
MikeR397
Senior Member - 3K
posted: Sep. 24, 2007 @ 1:29p
Bump
ChrisV
Senior Member
posted: Sep. 27, 2007 @ 6:51a
Does this work for Chase? I really hate their damn wording...
"Your low promotional 0% APR will apply only to the transferred balance and will remain in effect until the first day of your billing cycle that includes 3/1/2008 12:00:00 AM."
What the heck does that even mean! What is the exact definition of a billing cycle anyways? From statement date to due date, from statement date to statement date, or from due date to due date.
I currently have my due date at the 28th, so my statement date is currently the 3rd of every month.
MikeR397
Senior Member - 3K
posted: Sep. 27, 2007 @ 7:52a
I am almost positive it does not work for Chase. I really need to start making some phone calls. I've moved my statement dates back previously with AMEX and Discover and will call them and ask when my promo BT period ends and post here when I get the results. I might have time this afternoon.
sonnysighedup
Member
posted: Sep. 27, 2007 @ 8:57a
ChrisV said: Does this work for Chase? I really hate their damn wording...
"Your low promotional 0% APR will apply only to the transferred balance and will remain in effect until the first day of your billing cycle that includes 3/1/2008 12:00:00 AM."
What the heck does that even mean! What is the exact definition of a billing cycle anyways? From statement date to due date, from statement date to statement date, or from due date to due date.
I currently have my due date at the 28th, so my statement date is currently the 3rd of every month. With the wording of this particular Chase offer, moving back the statement billing date would be a benefit to you. Essentially your offer, given your current statement and due dates, would have to be paid off on 2/3/2008, because the next day would be the start of a new billing cycle, which "includes" 3/1/2008 within it. I think you want your statement cycle to end on the 29th - so that the next cycle would actually start with 3/1/2008. This would give you an extra 26 days.
MikeR397
Senior Member - 3K
posted: Sep. 27, 2007 @ 9:14a
sonnysighedup said: ChrisV said: Does this work for Chase? I really hate their damn wording...
"Your low promotional 0% APR will apply only to the transferred balance and will remain in effect until the first day of your billing cycle that includes 3/1/2008 12:00:00 AM."
What the heck does that even mean! What is the exact definition of a billing cycle anyways? From statement date to due date, from statement date to statement date, or from due date to due date.
I currently have my due date at the 28th, so my statement date is currently the 3rd of every month. With the wording of this particular Chase offer, moving back the statement billing date would be a benefit to you. Essentially your offer, given your current statement and due dates, would have to be paid off on 2/3/2008, because the next day would be the start of a new billing cycle, which "includes" 3/1/2008 within it. I think you want your statement cycle to end on the 29th - so that the next cycle would actually start with 3/1/2008. This would give you an extra 26 days.When I have called chase about this, they have given me a specific date my BT is due and it was not my due date for the statement. It was exactly the same date of the month I applied for the credit card and was approved, just 12 months in the future. So I applied June 4th, they told me my BT was due on June 4th 12 months later, and that changing the statement date would not affect when my BT was due. However, that sounds very strange to me and just b/c a CSR said it doesnt' mean it is correct.
sonnysighedup
Member
posted: Sep. 27, 2007 @ 10:50a
MikeR397 said: sonnysighedup said: ChrisV said: Does this work for Chase? I really hate their damn wording...
"Your low promotional 0% APR will apply only to the transferred balance and will remain in effect until the first day of your billing cycle that includes 3/1/2008 12:00:00 AM."
What the heck does that even mean! What is the exact definition of a billing cycle anyways? From statement date to due date, from statement date to statement date, or from due date to due date.
I currently have my due date at the 28th, so my statement date is currently the 3rd of every month. With the wording of this particular Chase offer, moving back the statement billing date would be a benefit to you. Essentially your offer, given your current statement and due dates, would have to be paid off on 2/3/2008, because the next day would be the start of a new billing cycle, which "includes" 3/1/2008 within it. I think you want your statement cycle to end on the 29th - so that the next cycle would actually start with 3/1/2008. This would give you an extra 26 days.When I have called chase about this, they have given me a specific date my BT is due and it was not my due date for the statement. It was exactly the same date of the month I applied for the credit card and was approved, just 12 months in the future. So I applied June 4th, they told me my BT was due on June 4th 12 months later, and that changing the statement date would not affect when my BT was due. However, that sounds very strange to me and just b/c a CSR said it doesnt' mean it is correct. That's why I was careful to say, "With the wording of this particular Chase offer..." - I'm guessing that ChrisV has this offer online with a current Chase card (I have the same offer on a couple of mine).
As far as the offer which you got when you applied for the card, the language was probably "A 0% fixed APR for the first 12 billing cycles following the opening of your account." Is the date on which you opened the card the same date as when your billing cycle ends every month? If so, then theoretically you could extend your current billing cycle by asking for a new due date. Your billing cycle might then, say, end on the 29th instead of the 4th and you would gain an extra 25 days for your BT. You would still have only 12 billing cycles, but one of them would have been abnormally long. In practice, Chase may be tying the BT terms to the opening date of the account in spite of messing with the billing/due dates.
MikeR397
Senior Member - 3K
posted: Sep. 27, 2007 @ 2:39p
I called AMEX today, this does not work with them.
I applied and got approved June 4th, original due date was around the 5th of the month, I moved the due date back about 2 months ago to the 30th of the month, and was told that the BT 0% promotion still ends on December 4th (6 months). BOO!
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