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DjPiLL
- Senior Member - 2K
posted: Dec. 28, 2007 @ 10:51a
So Citi closed accounts are starting to show up on my report. Happy to say that so far I haven't seen my scores drop, even though I have a ton of "account closed by creditors" on my report. I really think the "closed my creditor" negative is really a myth. If a card gets closed due to inactivity it will still show as "closed by creditor" on both TU and EQ regardless. The real test will be when my 15 year old card shows as closed. I'll definitely report what happens with that one so guys here can get some additional data points. |
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ahself
- Senior Member
posted: Jan. 11, 2008 @ 9:28a
I'm thinking of doing an AOR for my wife. Can you provide any pointers/tips based on your experience? I'm particularly interested in how you're able to manage her AOR when she owns the accounts and you're not an AU. For example, does she have to talk to CSRs every time or are you able to talk to them on her behalf? Based on my AOR experience, I know most of the process is automated, but I also know that there will be several phone conversations from/to CSRs about various things on the accounts (e.g. credit limits, consolidations, reallocations, "do you want to add an AU?", etc.). TIA |
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DjPiLL
- Senior Member - 2K
posted: Jan. 11, 2008 @ 10:46a
ahself said:I'm thinking of doing an AOR for my wife. Can you provide any pointers/tips based on your experience? I'm particularly interested in how you're able to manage her AOR when she owns the accounts and you're not an AU. For example, does she have to talk to CSRs every time or are you able to talk to them on her behalf?
Based on my AOR experience, I know most of the process is automated, but I also know that there will be several phone conversations from/to CSRs about various things on the accounts (e.g. credit limits, consolidations, reallocations, "do you want to add an AU?", etc.).
TIA First off I would make sure she is well aware of everything that goes on with an AOR, the advantages and DEFINITELY the disadvantages. She should know what adverse action is and prepare to deal with it if it happens.
A lot of stuff is automated true, however to fully benefit from an AOR you typically have to do reallocations and that requires phone calls by the wife. Then if you get dealt with some adverse action like we did, that requires more phone calls. I guess you can ask her to talk to them on her behalf... but she would still have to initiate the call. You don't want to add yourself as an AU to her cards because then those cards can show up on your credit report and that would negate any effectiveness an AOR would have. |
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DjPiLL
- Senior Member - 2K
posted: Jan. 11, 2008 @ 11:17a
So all my Citi cards are now reporting closed on my CR and my wife's CR. Doesn't look like my scores changed because of this (even though Citi closed my oldest account of 15 years). My wife had a slight dip in EX today... but I had an increase so this was probably unrelated to Citi. So Citi... I have THIS little present for you. See you on my next AOR. 
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ahself
- Senior Member
posted: Jan. 11, 2008 @ 11:37a
DjPiLL said:First off I would make sure she is well aware of everything that goes on with an AOR, the advantages and DEFINITELY the disadvantages. She should know what adverse action is and prepare to deal with it if it happens.
A lot of stuff is automated true, however to fully benefit from an AOR you typically have to do reallocations and that requires phone calls by the wife. Then if you get dealt with some adverse action like we did, that requires more phone calls.
I guess you can ask her to talk to them on her behalf... but she would still have to initiate the call. You don't want to add yourself as an AU to her cards because then those cards can show up on your credit report and that would negate any effectiveness an AOR would have. Thanks for the quick response. I'm fully aware of the pros and cons of an AOR and would make her aware as well. She has a fair idea, particularly on the pros based on what I've shared of my AOR experience. Since my question to you, I dug a little deeper in some other threads, particularly Thisguy's 2-part AOR, and found some discussion on this. It seems having her authorize me to speak to CSRs on her behalf would (should) be acceptable. |
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DjPiLL
- Senior Member - 2K
posted: Jan. 11, 2008 @ 11:30p
ahself said: Since my question to you, I dug a little deeper in some other threads, particularly Thisguy's 2-part AOR, and found some discussion on this. It seems having her authorize me to speak to CSRs on her behalf would (should) be acceptable. There is a difference between her making a phone call and telling the CSR "i authorize you to talk to my husband" (on a per call basis).... and you being an authorized user on her cards.
I don't there is a way to give you permission to make changes to her account on a permament basis without making you an official AU. ETA: Also don't forget to tell her that her credit score will drop bigtime at the start... can be as much as 100 points or maybe more.
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