I have been thinking about an AOR ever since I found this board about 6 months ago.
Before that I was doing 0%BTs almost at random without the benefit of sage advice found here.
I would just apply whenever I saw an ad or got a mailer or even at the airport once to get stuffed animals for my kids.
It worked out well enough, but the time has come to try to do this right instead.
Its been 6 months since my last hard pull (except for one lapse for 10% off Home Depot) and I have a large amount of BT that just ended
Date TU/EX/EQ FAKOs and MyFAKO
7/19 -- 674 670 767 -- 662
9/3 -- 723 703 789 -- 722 waiting for removal of AU and paid off BTs to clear (total $200K 85% 80% and 65% utilizations)
9/14 -- 734 707 793 -- 749 waiting for Chase and Citi to report paid in full ($125K total)
9/17 -- 734 726 793 -- 749 Ex picked up a 108K payment
9/19 -- 763 726 809 -- 749 all 3 picked up final payments
Inqs TU-6 Ex-16 Eq- 3
As of Aug 20 only one inq in 6 mo (Ex)
HHI ~ 400K
Credit history 40 years via AU, >10 years for my own stuff
Current lines - personal
Chase, BoA and AMEX I have 5 cards each all with <$1000 CLs except:
Chase 0% until Feb just paid off (I can reBT just after AOR) CL 118K
BoA just paid off 0% CL 151K
AMEX one I use daily 30K CL, one just paid off 0% CL 45K
Discover 2, total CL 20K
Citi/ATT 4 cards unconsolidated Total CL 68K
Juniper 2 cards one CL 1K, one 36K
CapOne 7K CL
USBank 9K CL
Grand Total for personal is about $480K
Biz
Chase 50K
BoA 10K
Advanta 10K using for 0% til Apr
I’m waiting for some large payments to post and them I’m off…
I just disputed the last two so it should be about a week
I’ve grouped these cards in the order in which I plan to apply
1 - Rollover 0% I just paid off.
BofA is my biggest fish at over 150K available. I don’t really need a card with a new CL, just a new offer -- if I can consolidate. I think I need to apply there first and twice if no instant approval.
Plat Plus MC 12/0 (months/fee cap)
NEA – 12/30 or this link
Chase and citi are next with 235K available between them. I mostly just need cards to consolidate to.
Chase biz and Citi biz will probably let me consolidate from personal
(Thanks markkundinger for the suggestion to move these up in the order)
Chase biz Rebat 12/75 $30 CS
I might need a second option if no approval. Chase GM 12/75 $30 CS
Citi biz with TY pts 12/0 15K TYP with first purch
Personal cards if biz won’t consolidate
Chase Platinum MC 12/75 $20 CS
Citi Drivers edge 12/0 $25 CS
Citi Professional 12/0 $25 CS
ATT 12/0 6K TYP with first purch $25 CS
Ax USBank and Juniper I could use some more CL and a new offer to consolidate to, would love to get over 100K among those three.
Amex In:LA 6/0 $30 CS
Juniper National Parks 12/50 Update: applied early 6K limit
US Bank 12/0 phone only Baylor 12/0 now has no cap
2 – new 0% BT from new banks
National City Lifespring Health 12/0Thanks to navysix for finding me the extra 6 months
RBS 10/60 or Peoples bank 8/60 Kroger 1-2-3 seems to be uncapped now
Wachovia 6/75
WaMu Plat MC 12/75
Pulaski 6/0
FNBO UnionBank of Calif 12/75
UMB 6/50
Compass Bank 12/75 in branch only
Dscover 12/50 invitation FHAG (usually 75 cap)
Wells Fargo 6/0
PNC – only one I found was 3 months, not useful
GM – HSBC 12/99
HSBC 12/75
Principal 12/75 (infibank) or this link
BB&T Coastal Federal 6/0 Southeast only
Commerce bank 6/75
Vectra Bank 6/50
PNC Mechanics Bank 6/0
State Farm 9/0 Their reputation makes me think twice
3 - Get new biz deals
BoA I can’t find an uncapped fee one, but markkundinger thinks I might talk a CSR out of the fee, so I'll try it for 9/?
Juniper BankAtlantic 15/75
Fifth/Third 12/0
Nat City 6/0
Discover biz miles 12/75 $40 CS
M&T 6/0
PNC biz 6/0
4 – Rewards. I love to fly for “free”
Chase BA 20K miles
FirstUSA/Chase SWA 16 units
Amex Delta 15K miles $30 CS
Amex Biz Delta 15K miles $60 CS
Amex biz SPG 10K points $60 CS
Citi AA 20K miles after $750
Citi Biz AA 20K miles
Chase Marriott 20K points no fee first year $30 after that
Chase biz Marriott 15K bonus
TD Ameritrade Starpoints bonus not a new credit card, but I gotta put the BT money somewhere, right?
5 – Drop utilization by adding cards I won’t use. Only a few banks I don’t already abuse for BT, so I’m going second tier.
Advanta Life-of-Balance card biz card so no utilizaton drop, but 2.9% forever could be useful $25 CS
GEmoney Canine association 6/250 if the $250 fee outweighs any profits, I'll use it to drop utilization
Etrade
BMW Bank 0% purchases for 6 months
Bellco CU
Ranier Pacific
PNC Bank their 0% deal is only 3 months with no fee cap
PenFed
Franklin Templeton
5Star bank
Everbank
Target 10% off on-line or in-store
Simmons The offer page says 6 months 0% but the T&C's say 8.9% no BT fee either way.
First Tennesee phone only
Cap One no Hassle points, 0% purchase til July I put it next to last because of the CL reporting issue and the fact that they pull all 3 CRAs. I may not even bother
Hooters – why not if I bothered to apply for capone?
Eventually I’d like to acquire a total of $1MM in outstanding 0% BT between me and the wife. Previous high total was $538K.
I wonder if there are too many Chase cards here (miles cards I could do without) especially since I have 5 cards already.
I am considering canceling some unused, small CL cards that aren’t too old to avoid the “you have too many cards” denials
I have no real business, but that shouldn’t matter much (except maybe AMEX and their FR)
I’m not sure I need to apply for the ATT card since I have so many Citi apps here
Many thanks to several recent AOR threads I've borrowed from (PolarDude's mega thread,DJPill,VerbalK, and others)
edit: updated National City card from 6 month offer to 12 month offer from Snuffy's 2nd AOR and reordered the list a little
added CardSelection links/bonus info