Scifiguy123 said:My wife is Korean and when she first came to this country she never tipped or when she did it was a very small amount. Since that time she has worked as a waitress in a couple of different restaurants (works at a Chinese Buffet place now). Now whenever we go out to eat she tips more than I would.

I know people might not agree, but it would be nice if people who went to Buffet places would leave a tip. I am not saying as much as a regular full service restaurant but if the service was good what is the big deal leaving a .50 or 1.00 tip.Not a buffet guy, but I when I do eat at one, I tip if my plate is cleared so I can go up for seconds. Or thirds.

DavidScubadiver said:ShyGuyCalif said:I disagree with this outright. I dont like people (waiters in this forum) or articles like this telling me what percent of tip I should give someone.

As per my thumb rule, tip is ONLY given if the person meets or exceeds the level of service promised. If the service is outright excellent then I mightconsider giving 15% or 20%.... but I dont go by automatic 15%-20% calculators. Yes! I generally do not give 18-20% tips. There are times when I do not give any tip.

I do not want to sound mean, but I do not care if some waiters are not paid well by their restaurants. I have my financial goals and my extravagant tip is not going to make anyone rich. As a consumer I need to get the best for my money. There is lots of competition in the food business and there are lots of restaurants who strive to get my business.Well, you are not going to like this...
If you live in this country and you don't tip a waitress because she did not "exceed" your level of expectations, you are a cheap SOB and really shouldn't be dining out but should instead, be preparing your own food. "Looking out for #1" and maximizing your cash-flow, by stiffing those who serve you is wrong. They WORK FOR TIPS. Don't think that just because there are plenty of restaurants who are vying for your business that this somehow justifies screwing the servers. I can't even imagine how that thought process makes sense to you, but believe me... its wrong-headed and you don't belong in a restaurant.

I worked as a waiter at a nice restaurant while in college and, at a time when minimum wage was $2.50 per hour, I was paid $1.75 per hour. The restaurant then added an amount called "estimated gratuities" to bring my pay up to slightly above minimum wage and I was taxed on that amount. If I didn't get a tip, I wasn't even making minimum wage and I was pissed off because I always worked my tail off to do a great job expecting to earn a good tip. Most of the time people appreciated it and tipped well.

chaserx said:I absolutely hate it when waiters and waitresses and bartenders come on to forums and try to tell everyone how much they are entitled to.

GUESS WHAT HONEY, most of us do sh*tty jobs for crappy pay. You're not the only beautiful unique snowflake.

I tip in states where the minimum wage for waiters is less than the federal minimum wage, and I don't tip in states where its not.

Minimum wages for tipped employees

In California, where I live, the minimum wage for everyone is $7.50. I'm more likely to tip the busboy or the aisle stocker in the supermarket than the waiter.

Cheap Bas***d should stay home! Or go to McDonalds.

chaserx said:I absolutely hate it when waiters and waitresses and bartenders come on to forums and try to tell everyone how much they are entitled to.

GUESS WHAT HONEY, most of us do sh*tty jobs for crappy pay. You're not the only beautiful unique snowflake.

I tip in states where the minimum wage for waiters is less than the federal minimum wage, and I don't tip in states where its not.

Minimum wages for tipped employees

In California, where I live, the minimum wage for everyone is $7.50. I'm more likely to tip the busboy or the aisle stocker in the supermarket than the waiter.

what you are over-looking chaserx is that the full service restaurant is set up as a dining experience --- with the waiter serving and presenting the food --- no one said you have to participate in this paradigm --- but if you choose to and you don't tip --- then you are a JERK!

as far as tipping the bar tender --- when you get your rear end beaten up for your attitude --- who do you think the bar tender is going to side with when the police arrive to make out the police report?

Technologist said:I had this happen to me ONE time many, many, MANY years ago.... and devised an easy way of finding these on my credit card statement. It costs me a little money, but saves me lots of time reconciling.

Say the bill is $22.57. Add 15% tip ($3.38). Total is $25.95. Add (or subtract) cents until last number equals the sum of the individual numbers to the left of decimal (the 2 and the 5). In this case, I add 2 cents to make the grand total $25.97. When reconciling, I immediately see the 2+5=7, and know that nothing funny happened. Any small dollar tip addition stands out, the only way around "my system" is if the establishment adds an outrageous tip (multiples of 9 dollars).

It isn't foolproof, but it works for me. Oh, the reason I said subtract above is so I don't take the cents above 99, and cause the dollars to increment by 1... it would throw off the system.

cryptography - applied math at its finest.

I love how these threads go off-topic.

Tipping vs. Non-Tipping
15% vs. 20%
Service vs. Kitchen
Earned vs. Expected
Eat In vs. Take Out
His Fault vs. Her Fault
blah vs. blah
ect...

I believe we have a whole thread on the tipping debate, why not post these comments there.

This had the opportunity to be a resource for people who run into the restaurant altering reciepts, but now it is just full of junk and has little value.

quaters said:I love how these threads go off-topic
we thought the same thing and posted the same time

xpguy said:I thought Technologist reply was quite valuable and practical to the topic of "fraudulently altering credit card receipts." Agreed- Technologist's post made my day. Genious.

DavidScubadiver said:xpguy said:I thought Technologist reply was quite valuable and practical to the topic of "fraudulently altering credit card receipts." If people want to argue about the morality of tipping, this thread will just be moved to off topic trash heap, lose it's value, and end up like all other 37 page tipping threads like this one:
Tipping: Frugal or Wrong to NOT tip, or tip below 10%, for good service?Can't they just prune the damned thread and end it when it strays off-topic?
That would take too much work for the mods. We would have to have this thread locked and start a new thread on our own.

NOT IT...

DavidScubadiver said:xpguy said:I thought Technologist reply was quite valuable and practical to the topic of "fraudulently altering credit card receipts." If people want to argue about the morality of tipping, this thread will just be moved to off topic trash heap, lose it's value, and end up like all other 37 page tipping threads like this one:
Tipping: Frugal or Wrong to NOT tip, or tip below 10%, for good service?Can't they just prune the damned thread and end it when it strays off-topic?

Nooooooooooooooo..... let it stay off topic (as long as the compliments keep coming!!!).

I never really thought about it as a checksum (DOH!).... Well, at least I'm happy that I explained it well enough that I didn't get a thousand PMs, asking mean to explain it again!

BTW, speaking of tips.... If you like my system, tips ARE accepted! PM for paypal addy!!!

MODS, and everyone - the BEGGING for TIPS is a JOKE, and an ON-topic joke at that!