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Maybe someone can put my mind at ease OR nudge me into invoking my right to cancel.

I've signed for a HEL from Citibank. There is something that concerns me on the Truth in Lending Disclosure regarding prepayment. I don't trust Citibank based on past experience. Someone please help with this one...

Under PREPAYMENT it says:

If you pay off your loan early, you
( )may (x)will not have to pay a prepayment penalty
( )may (x)will not have to pay a minimun finance charge
( )may (x)will not be entitled to a refund of part of the finance charge.

The last clause is the one that concerns me! The "Finance Charge", as listed on a Truth in Lending Disclosure, is the total finance charge if the loan is paid off over the scheduled 30 year period (an amount that exceeds the loan amount).

Does this mean that they can charge me the entire finance charge if I pay off the loan early? If not, what does it mean and why is it there at all? Obviously I'm not going to get a refund for finance charges accrued while the loan is actually financed, right?

It sounds as if they could charge me the $42k interest, same as if I took 30 yrs to pay, on the $25k loan, even if I prepay before the 30 year term. If true, that is not acceptable.

I hope I explained this clearly enough. I also hope I don't sound too stupid or paranoid but, as I said, Citibank and I have a history which I will put below as optional reading and which made me very mistrustful of them.

Any clarification or suggestions would be appreciated!

Optional Reading: Why I don't trust Citibank enough to ask them for clarification.
A few years ago I received an offer to transfer my credit card balances to a "non-introductary low fixed rate" citibank Visa. I did just that. About 7 months later I noticed that the interest rate had increased significantly. I called and said there must be a mistake because I signed on for a fixed rate. The CSR agreed that I had a fixed rate but that citibank had RAISED the fixed rate. I said "that's not my definition of a fixed rate". She said a variable rate is tied to an indicator like the prime rate, that my rate is a fixed rate and that they decided to raise my fixed rate to remain competetive! She said that if I read the small print, that I would see that they are allowed to raise my fixed rate after 6 months. That whole thing just burned me up, especially when she said that they had to raise my rate to stay competitive. What a scam!



Funny you should ask; I just got my equity loan docs and it has the exact same prepayment clause. Does anybody here know the answer?


I believe that means you do not get any refund of the finance charge you have already paid. There is a type of loan called "Rule of 78's" which computes the finance charge for the entire loan period and adds it to the principal amount, and that sum becomes the total to be repaid. Then each entire payment is deducted from the balance. In other words, the entire finance charge for the loan period is "baked in" to the total amount due (number of payments X payment amount). This is different from a "simple interest" loan where each payment has a principal amount and an interest amount, and you only pay interest on the then-current balance.

With a Rule of 78's loan, if you pay it off early, you get a refund of the unearned part of the finance charge. A Rule of 78's loan is not beneficial to the borrower in the event of an early payoff.

So I think that clause is just saying your loan is a simple interest loan, and an early payoff will not get you any refund of finance charges you have already paid.


Thanks Kranky! You have been a huge asset to the FW community for a looong time and you are much appreciated!


kranky said:
So I think that clause is just saying your loan is a simple interest loan, and an early payoff will not get you any refund of finance charges you have already paid.
bingo.

Nothing to worry about, you arent going to be refunded anything, and also arent gojng to be charged the entire finance charges as if you kept the loan the full term if paying off early.


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