BoA credit refund experience

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If this has been posted previously, my apologies; I'd be quite happy if someone has the link.

My BoA AMEX card is my only card not currently used for purchases or BTs. What have been FWs' experiences w/ $25k BTs to BoA CC accounts? I remember hearing once about a $5k cap, over which they return the check. Is this common knowledge?

Also, it seems possible to transfer instantly from my BoA AMEX to my Boa MyChecking (through their Online Banking interface), but BoA is curiously silent about how these transfers are classed or possibly associated fees. Am I paranoid to think it would appear as a cash advance even if it is an advance of a credit?

Any help appreciated.



I've transfered 50k from my BofA CC (non-AMEX, though) to BofA checking account using their website with no issue. However, from my own experiences:
1. Make sure you don't transfer a small amount closer to your cash advance limit (usually around $1000) since it will be treated as cash advance. I did that, but I called them right away, and they refunded the cash advance fee.
2. If you transfered near your credit limit, most likely they'd bump your credit limit automatically. ie: current CL: 5000, BT: 4500, new CL: 6000, also resulting in soft credit inquiry (forgot the term. soft something)


Please read all threads on BofA account closures first before BT from a BofA card to a BofA bank account.


TheFicus


If your purpose is to use your BoA credit card as a place to put BT transfers to, and then get a refund of the credit amount, I strongly recommend against this. I did it once for a BT of about 15K from a card which wouldn't transfer the BT money to a checking account, only to another credit card. I received two calls from BoA, one from their Fraud Department, and, although they eventually complied, I was told that this use of my BoA credit card was inappropriate and that they would do it for me only as an exception. If I hadn't had 30+ years of a banking relationship with BoA, who knows what would have happened?

I was further told that BoA monitors activity on its credit cards, and they monitor movement of money between their accounts. I think a BT transfer *from* a BoA card is fine, but due to this monitoring, and due to a better interest rate, I always ask them to transfer the money to a Reward Checking account at another bank. I use that other bank's bill pay to pay the bills from the BoA BT and other BTs.

In summary, I take advantage of BoA BT offers, but make sure the money goes elsewhere, and I don't use any BoA accounts as the destination for any BT, regardless of the source of the BT.


DO NOT create a negative balance on a BofA card by sending BT funds to it. They will shut you down for creating a negative balance.

Also lots of recent reports they dont want to see CC BT money deposited into their bank accounts either.


FIA won't though. everyone knows FIA bofa products have a much higher class of service.


Thanks, bozo007 and others, for saving me the headache with BoA... Hmm.. I've searched, but not seen, for experiences BTing into cards from Compass Bank or WAMU. (Technically, I also have a Circuit City card, but am wary to try anything with them.) None of the above cards I use; the WAMU (for its credit report) has only 1000 CL and has never been used... Since I rent and so am not eligable for a HELOC, would FWers suggest BTing into a Chase CC that I use as my purchase account or opening CC and checking at a CU? If the CU option, any suggestions? I teach at a college in CO, but have little experiences with CUs -- I know of Elevations and the CU of Colorado; though both have 'non use' fees, I think, which would be a problem. Thanks again for the helpful advice!


SUCKISSTAPLES said: Also lots of recent reports they dont want to see CC BT money deposited into their bank accounts either.For the record, last month all my BT money ($200k) went through my BofA checking accounts (personal and biz). This included a $22k BT from my personal BofA card directly to my personal BofA checking, and 2 BT checks from BofA Boz cards deposited into my BofA Biz checking.

I still fail to see how the source of the check plays any roll in how it is treated by the bank you deposit it into. When they present the check for payment, they dont get details of how the check is being paid; the only info is that $X,XXX is being drawn from Acct#XXXX at XXX bank, and XXX bank either pays it or it doesnt. Depositing a BT check attracts no more attention and is treated no differently than depositing any other check. It may be flagged due the the amount and the status of your checking account (or, of course, if the check bounces), but not because of the BT check itself. Its no different than the belief that having a BT deposited directly into your checking account will be coded as a cash advance.


mitkaese said: Thanks, bozo007 and others, for saving me the headache with BoA... Hmm.. I've searched, but not seen, for experiences BTing into cards from Compass Bank or WAMU. (Technically, I also have a Circuit City card, but am wary to try anything with them.) None of the above cards I use; the WAMU (for its credit report) has only 1000 CL and has never been used... Since I rent and so am not eligable for a HELOC, would FWers suggest BTing into a Chase CC that I use as my purchase account or opening CC and checking at a CU? If the CU option, any suggestions? I teach at a college in CO, but have little experiences with CUs -- I know of Elevations and the CU of Colorado; though both have 'non use' fees, I think, which would be a problem. Thanks again for the helpful advice!Call up virtually any credit card (Bank Atlantic Biz being the only exception I've ever run into) to request a BT, and they will be more than willing to take a name and address to send the money to. So simply request a BT to someone you trust to give you back the money, at an address you know they will receive it, and make up an account number (they'll require one to process the request).

BTing to a card with no balance (creating a large credit balance) is a terrible idea - regardless of the issuer - and should only be used as a last resort.


Glitch99 said: I still fail to see how the source of the check plays any roll in how it is treated by the bank you deposit it into. When they present the check for payment, they dont get details of how the check is being paid; the only info is that $X,XXX is being drawn from Acct#XXXX at XXX bank, and XXX bank either pays it or it doesnt. Depositing a BT check attracts no more attention and is treated no differently than depositing any other check. It may be flagged due the the amount and the status of your checking account (or, of course, if the check bounces), but not because of the BT check itself. Its no different than the belief that having a BT deposited directly into your checking account will be coded as a cash advance.
Bank of America specifically told me they do NOT like people depositing balance transfer or cash advance checks. Also, Bank of America does know if the check is a balance transfer or cash advance check.


SUCKISSTAPLES said: DO NOT create a negative balance on a BofA card by sending BT funds to it. They will shut you down for creating a negative balance.

Also lots of recent reports they dont want to see CC BT money deposited into their bank accounts either.

Maybe if it is over a statement cycle but I had a brief 5K negative balance while doing BT's and nothing came of it (38K limit). I also have had a -10K balance on a BOA regular card by accident (2X paid) and there was a multi -K balance for 2 cycles and they never said one word.


theficus said: Glitch99 said: I still fail to see how the source of the check plays any roll in how it is treated by the bank you deposit it into. When they present the check for payment, they dont get details of how the check is being paid; the only info is that $X,XXX is being drawn from Acct#XXXX at XXX bank, and XXX bank either pays it or it doesnt. Depositing a BT check attracts no more attention and is treated no differently than depositing any other check. It may be flagged due the the amount and the status of your checking account (or, of course, if the check bounces), but not because of the BT check itself. Its no different than the belief that having a BT deposited directly into your checking account will be coded as a cash advance.
Bank of America specifically told me they do NOT like people depositing balance transfer or cash advance checks. Also, Bank of America does know if the check is a balance transfer or cash advance check.
I know that has been claimed here numerous times, but I fail to see HOW they would know unless you tell them. The check itself only tells them that it is drawing $X,XXX from Acct#XXXX at XXX bank. The BT check looks, acts, and is treated like any other check; how can they distinguish the BT check I deposit (that shows my name/address) from the check drawn on one of my other checking accounts?


Yes they do know what kind of check it is.

And yes there have been numerous ppl who have created negative balances with problem.

That someone has been able to create negative balances or deposit BT checks w/o problem does not change the recommendation to the OP.

No one is saying its 100% certain that if you do this, they will catch it , or take action. But they have been known to in the past. Saying "I did it and Im just fine" does not have any bearing on OPs chances.


Glitch99 said: I know that has been claimed here numerous times, but I fail to see HOW they would know unless you tell them. The check itself only tells them that it is drawing $X,XXX from Acct#XXXX at XXX bank. The BT check looks, acts, and is treated like any other check; how can they distinguish the BT check I deposit (that shows my name/address) from the check drawn on one of my other checking accounts?

Most of the time (but maybe not always), just looking at the check will tell you it is a BT. They tend to look different than most business and personal checks. However, I do qualify that *some* may look just like others. In that case, one can typically tell by the routing numbers. From what I have seen from an old retail store business, deposit accts never (in my experience) been from the same routing # as BT checks. Thus, it could be possible there are known CC access check routing #s and which bank they belong to.


yep


Not only can they charge you a fee (cash advance) if you transfer money without being advanced cash.

I had a small credit balance ($50 if I remember right) on a card (due to a fee being refunded I beleive)and transferred it my checking account as the easiest way to deal with it. Alas, the computers are programmed to charge a fee on all money flowing that way, even if it is merely returning money you are entitled to. Admittedly, they did refund the fee when asked, but it was a nuisance.

The BOA site mixes deposit accounts and bank accounts, making it relatively easy to accidentally draw from a credit card when you meant to draw from a banking account, thus incurring fees.




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