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I'm not sure about you, but i'd much rather stay here than go to most of those countries. And since the USSR is on there, i'm guessing that info isn't 100% accurate. The only one I would even consider would be the UAE. You can't even speak freely in half of those countries.


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jacobhorne said:RichFish: I am just entertaining an idea!

I am not packing my bags tomorrow. Listen, I will have a house, property, etc. in 10 years... I am not sure about the country yet I am sure their are tons of countries that do not extradite.

"Afghanistan, Algeria, Angola, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Benin, Bhutan,
Botswana, Brunei, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape
Verde, Central African Republic, Chad, China, Comoros, Djibouti,
Equatorial Guinea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Guinea, Guinea Bissau, Indonesia,
Iran, Ivory Coast, Jordan, Kuwait, Laos, Lebanon, Libya, Madagascar,
Mali, Maldives, Mauritania, Mongolia, Morocco, Mozambique, Nepal,
Niger, Oman, Philippines, Qatar, Rwanda, Samoa, Sao Tome e Principe,
Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Togo, Tunisia, Uganda,
USSR, United Arab Emirates, Vanuatu, Vietnam, Yemen, Yemen South,
Zaire & Zimbabwe" - from yahoo answers

All of these..... Philippines might be nice (would only have to borrow 300k)

I was just wondering if this was possible... You ppl act like this is for real...

Calm down Fatwallet people. lol.
GET BACK UNDER YOUR BRIDGE, TROLL.


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You would have to get all that cash out of the country with you......

You'd be better off taking $500k in cash advances, go to Vegas and gamble half of it away (enough to get the casino's attention, so when the time comes they can verify both that you were there and that you lost alot), then declare BK claiming you lost it all while gambling. The BK relieves you of having to repay, it is all gone from your record in 7 years, no need to leave the country, plus intentionally blowing $200k in Vegas is sure to get you some 'perks' along the way.


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Yeah you are probably right... I did see on cnn money or something that the philippines will give you the most bang for your buck for retirees (it was a top destination).

I was unaware of the legal implications...I still do not think they(CC companies) would pursue you very hard. just my opinion. But obviously I am the only person in the US who has ever thought about this...Lol

Ok since I do not post like 1MB on FW everyday...what is a troll?

Abloco u clown.

Yeah I like gambling... maybe that would be a better idea.


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FYI,
SOL is 3 years in SC, not 10. It is 10 years for judgments. Would the credit cards automatically turn into judgments? Depends on the card issuers and the amounts involved. Some write it off or sell it to collectors. Some sue (discover)

Illegal? Probably walking a line I wouldn't want to flirt with, particularly by posting online. On the face, as long as you were truthful on the applications, you can borrow money with no intent of paying it back. That isn't a crime. Not very nice, but it isn't criminal.

wiki sez

I'd ask what was the intentional deception. I don't think intentionally breaking the card member agreement counts, either. More to the point, who is going to prosecute it? Not the FBI under a 7 figure amount.

One more thing, the statute of limitations is tolled, meaning it stops when you leave the state and almost always when you leave the country. It isn't as easy as just hiding out in another country/state and then coming back.


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good info. I have no credit right now so....I have always wondered what they could do and with all the criminals
out there, I cannot believe someone has not done this or tried or w/e... Have not seen it on masterminds so I guess it is a bad idea..lol


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CrAsian said:germanpope said:OP is talking ten years from now --- if he was talking about next week and could post some pictures ....

ooooh, the pope wants to see a young, naive, possible boy's pics? how scandalous

anyway, you could live like a king in a 3rd world country for about 20k, right?

be careful CrAsian --- stereotypes can be attached to your screen name also


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500k? OP is dreaming. A bulk of the AOR majority seems to be in the 100-300k and that's for high income earner with high credit score.

OP will be lucky to have a card with a $10k limit in 5 years. This is clearly intent to defraud which will include jail time. I don't think it's hard to prove intent in this case if the OP leaves the country for years shortly taking out a loan.


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No actually I was just thinking.


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jacobhorne said:good info. I have no credit right now so....I have always wondered what they could do and with all the criminals
out there, I cannot believe someone has not done this or tried or w/e... Have not seen it on masterminds so I guess it is a bad idea..lol

Most crims don't have the attentions span to work a project for 10 years while holding steady work with a taxable income that would allow your plan to work. After the 10 years is up, and you have an 800 FICO with a good steady income, you just might find you'd rather stay right there.


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codename47 said:FYI,
SOL is 3 years in SC, not 10. It is 10 years for judgments. Would the credit cards automatically turn into judgments? Depends on the card issuers and the amounts involved. Some write it off or sell it to collectors. Some sue (discover)

Illegal? Probably walking a line I wouldn't want to flirt with, particularly by posting online. On the face, as long as you were truthful on the applications, you can borrow money with no intent of paying it back. That isn't a crime. Not very nice, but it isn't criminal.

wiki sez

I'd ask what was the intentional deception. I don't think intentionally breaking the card member agreement counts, either. More to the point, who is going to prosecute it? Not the FBI under a 7 figure amount.

One more thing, the statute of limitations is tolled, meaning it stops when you leave the state and almost always when you leave the country. It isn't as easy as just hiding out in another country/state and then coming back.

OP would be silly to run away with the cash when he can invest it in 20% yielding dividend stocks. How can he lose?!?!


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jacobhorne said:No actually I was just thinking.

--- nothing wrong with going through hypotheticals

--- but some folks call it troll-speak when you add hot button words to get people going

like --- just 22 (to some this means - young and stupid)
or --- going off to the Phillipines or Mexico (to some this means hotties that are near free)
or --- run up multiple cards (irresponsible use of AOR)

--- when start a troll-type discussion --- you get troll-type responses


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Sorry about that...I just wanted to be honest. This was not a well thought out idea, but I have always wondered about it. I guess i will use better judgment next time and not be a Troll or internet geek speak.


Frank Abagnale (his story became the movie "Catch me if you can")

He only served 5 or so years...now he is a multi-millionaire(by way of his own security business)...go figure.


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jacobhorne said:Sorry about that...I just wanted to be honest. This was not a well thought out idea, but I have always wondered about it. I guess i will use better judgment next time and not be a Troll or internet geek speak.

actually if you enjoy thinking about these schemes ... you might want to join law enforcement ... you got to think like a criminal to catch one


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This is clearly intent to defraud which will include jail time. I don't think it's hard to prove intent in this case if the OP leaves the country for years shortly taking out a loan.
What is this intent to defraud stuff? You've been watching too much law and order. In the United States of America, you are free to take out a loan and free to not pay it back. They are free to sue you or try to recover the money via any legal means.

It isn't theft. It isn't fraud. As long as you didn't lie on the app, there is no crime. It isn't a crime to take out a loan and leave the country. That isn't intent of doing anything and even if it was, so what it isn't a crime. Lots of people travel and lots of people have financial problems for lots of different reasons. No crime, sorry matlock.

I'm not all about ripping people off, but sheesh, stop the insanity.


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One must carefully consider expected benefits and expected costs of any decision, including the opportunity costs. One of them would be inability to be eligible for a range of employment opportunities with prior criminal convictions or trashed credit.

As far as your example goes, how about skipping serving time in jail and doing straight to the running own security business? Wouldn't that work better?

jacobhorne said:Sorry about that...I just wanted to be honest. This was not a well thought out idea, but I have always wondered about it. I guess i will use better judgment next time and not be a Troll or internet geek speak.


Frank Abagnale (his story became the movie "Catch me if you can")

He only served 5 or so years...now he is a multi-millionaire(by way of his own security business)...go figure.


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I hear Poland is the destination of choice NOT the Philippines nor Mexico.


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sushiosushi said:I hear Poland is the destination of choice NOT the Philippines nor Mexico.

for what?

I think Korea would be a nice place to visit


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jacobhorne said:No actually I was just thinking.Thinking is too erudite a label for what you are doing. Musing is more like it. Lets just say you run the risk of them suing you (regardless of whether you have fled the country), entering a judgment and renewing that judgment if they follow up with that sort of thing. You'd basically be unable to get credit for 20 years. So, enjoy renting and pray that your "home away from home" is a pleasant place to stay for a decade or more. Then, expect that they will still seek to collect a judgment from you, compounding for 20 years. You'll probably wish to stay in your new third-world adopted country.


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Why is this thread allowed to stay? It's embarrassment to FWF. Nothing but a plan to commit a crime and would hope mods would remove


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