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Has anyone here actually used Madrate? I googled the company and read a few less than stellar
reviews. Is their rate too good to be true?


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Anyone shop for jumbo/super jumbo mortgages lately? Anywhere from $1 to 3 million


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just locked with USAA

5.875 on the 417k fixed 30 years paying .25 in points, could have got 6% with .25 rebate

60k second is around 7.8

10% down.

If rates go drastically lower the next few weeks due to earnings, and continued stock market decrease... whats the odds USAA flexes and gives me the lower rate (only concerned if its .25 on the rate).


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Wow, my HELOC is only 6.5% with USAA, with a lock option at 7.15% and rates headed down. Why in the world would you take a 7.8% second?


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i think its the way its structured. I only have to put down 10% and I am getting a great first rate. I priced with a few brokers and 7.75+ is what seconds are going for. It is either take the second or pay larger interest for a jumbo.Times may have changed since you got your loan.

Is it a crazy rate for a second?? I felt like i did my diligence.

BTW second is $60k for 240 mos and is not locked until the loan closes in 30 days.... I dont plan on having it for anywhere near that long, and from my pricing seemed reasonable. Open to opinions.

Message edited by: synch22 on 2008-01-03 23:32:08 CST
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Don't know what happened today but the rates dropped by a quarter point today for Wells Fargo (5.75%) & Madrate (5.5%).

Shahhere


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synch22 said:i think its the way its structured. I only have to put down 10% and I am getting a great first rate. I priced with a few brokers and 7.75+ is what seconds are going for. It is either take the second or pay larger interest for a jumbo.Times may have changed since you got your loan.

Is it a crazy rate for a second?? I felt like i did my diligence.

BTW second is $60k for 240 mos and is not locked until the loan closes in 30 days.... I dont plan on having it for anywhere near that long, and from my pricing seemed reasonable. Open to opinions.

Well, I got the HELOC in the last 1/2 of '07. The rate is variable, and the fix option is set to the variable rate + a spread. You might like to ask your loan consultant, especially since 90% CLTV is the cutoff for their best rates on the HELOC. One of the nicer things about the fix a portion of your HELOC option is that you can fix up to 5 loans within the HELOC. So you can refi your fixed portion lower with a few mouse clicks if you have the credit limit if rates fall. With an HEL you'd have to go through the whole process. Though going from 20 years to 10 amortization may make the payment too onerous, and that would be a good reason to pay the extra 0.7%. Is yours a crazy rate? No way, you could have gotten much worse.

Message edited by: WalStMonky on 2008-01-05 15:19:14 CST
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Penfed 5/5 ARM is down to 5.25%.

Shahhere


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slowpork said:Has anyone here actually used Madrate? I googled the company and read a few less than stellar
reviews. Is their rate too good to be true?

There are a couple positive responses in this Thread

I'm looking at them too.


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I am a 15-year FRM person. So...

Madrate: 5.25 (15-year FRM) no points


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At the end of November, I got a 6.25% loan through Chevy Chase Bank. 0 points, and rate drops to 6.00% at 80% payment.


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Rates seem to have dropped all over. 5.5 30 fixed at madrate (I was a very happy customer, but they don't do business in my state now), 5.625 at hartwest.com. I locked with hartwest last week at 5.75 and was happy with that. If they drop to 5.5 I'll have to consider cancelling & reapplying with them. They also only do business in a handful of states.

Hartwest had us pick the closing/title insurance company, which I had not done before. Apparently, at least in Colorado, reissue rates are available from every provider. They only care that a policy was issued within a set period of time, even if it was from someone else. It's still a pretty crummy setup - very uncompetitive since borrowers usually pay but aren't actually getting the service (for the policy at least). But there were big variations in overall costs, ours should be under $1000, others were around $1500. This includes the lender's title insurance plus the closing service.

In my searches for providers, I found multiple proposals to require lenders to pay for title insurance. It really makes sense - of course they would build those costs in to their closing costs and/or rates, but they would also be in a position to promote competition among providers. They might also get a better product - I certainly didn't care about the credentials of the insurer, just the cost.

Anyway, it looks like a great time to lock if you've been thinking about it. It looks like rates are as low as they've been in at least 6 months. I think they're only about .25 above the best I've ever seen (in 2003). They've been fluctuating up & down quickly for the last month or so.


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i locked like i posted above at 5.875% .25 points.


Rates today 1 week later are 5.625% 0 points. For the same 5.875 they are giving a nice .25 rebate. Heck 5.5% is .625 points.

So i was told with USAA once i locked i am locked. How could i possibly take the locked deal and throw away money like this. I am in no hurry to close since i am buying a family home. They have great closing costs but i am sure i can find decent rates with other banks. Would you look elsewhere?? Where?

I had a broker run numbers and the fees were still a little too high to justify the switch. I also will be losing the $350 deposit if i jump ship.


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WOW the 5/5 ARM rates are pretty darn low at 5.125% for Penfed.

Shahhere


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Penfed just dropped to 5.0% on the 5/5 ARM today. Also they are down to 5.875 with no points on the 30 year fixed.


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We went with GMAC with a 30 year fixed rate loan at 5.125% and 2 pts. Madrate is better if you don't buy down points, but we plan on staying put for a while. Penfed is only good for the 5/5, their fixed rate is not so hot, comparatively.


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Madrate just dropped their 30 Yr Fixed to 5.375%
Is this Hot or what?


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borisr said:Madrate just dropped their 30 Yr Fixed to 5.375%
Is this Hot or what?

sounds really hot.... especially that slowpork paid 2 points for basically the same rate

i guess they made money on him so they are happy to drop it now


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ShyriK said:borisr said:Madrate just dropped their 30 Yr Fixed to 5.375%
Is this Hot or what?


sounds really hot.... especially that slowpork paid 2 points for basically the same rate

i guess they made money on him so they are happy to drop it now

*cry*

..at least i got my rate dropped to 5.000%. shouldn't have locked..

Message edited by: slowpork on 2008-01-15 16:02:30 CST
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anyone getting a loan and locking rates, ASK FOR A FREE FLOAT DOWN. Most lenders offer this, and if rates drop, youll get the lower rate. But you are protected against rate increases with your lock.


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