Millions survived Katrina without guns. We just had a little flood here in the Northwest with the most helicopter rescues since Katrina. I haven't heard one story about guns being useful. People who survive well talk about drinking water, blankets, tarps, and mostly friends.

Where do you guys come up with these weird ideas? What about HumVees? Explosives? Need those? Why does this all sound so much like what my grandsons play with?

janwad said:Millions survived Katrina without guns. We just had a little flood here in the Northwest with the most helicopter rescues since Katrina. I haven't heard one story about guns being useful. People who survive well talk about drinking water, blankets, tarps, and mostly friends.

Where do you guys come up with these weird ideas? What about HumVees? Explosives? Need those? Why does this all sound so much like what my grandsons play with?

Probably talking about global catastraphe as seen in Mad Max, The Postman, I Am Legend, etc. where outside help will never come.

As comprehensive as it tries to be, I see some obvious problems with that list.
greling said: On the serious side of things, here are some items I'd recommend:
*SEEDS*
1.) Moringa oleifera tree (Highly nutritious and useful beyond belief. Do a Google search. Neat, eh?)
2.) Wolfberry fruit (Sweet-tasting, delicious and comparable to #1 in qualities.)
These are both tropical/subtropical. Not going to do much good for many people.

greling said:
*TOOLS*
various firearms
13.) Best quality fishing pole you can find.

but no ammo? Also you better get a few lures targeted towards local fish for that fishing pole.

greling said:
clothing list

The lack of winter clothing (and the first two seeds) tells me this list was written by someone living in the southern US. Sorry, but I'd freeze to death.

greling said:
*MONEY*
1.) 25% of your Savings in 1 oz. 24K Gold bars
2.) 10% of your Savings in 1 oz. 99.99% Silver rounds
4.) 15% of your savings in cash in a high-interest checking account

All useless in the utter disaster the author is prepping for. That dried food is going to be more valuable than gold/silver, and in an utter disaster you're not going to be able to get the $ out of the bank either.

greling said:
*TRANSPORTATION & ENERGY*
3.) 1,250 Watt Portable Electric Generator

There are no items on the list that require non-battery electricity. Also, there are no batteries listed. For that matter, you should have a wind up radio or preferably a ham radio so you can try to find some help.

greling said:
*HEALTH*
...

Obviously the creator is this list has neither wife nor kids.

greling said:
1.) Ten 6oz. Deodorant stones (each is good for 1-2 years)
2.) Reusable ice packs
The author provides no means to cool the ice packs. And you need deodorant during the apocalypse? What's also completely missing from this list is a survival manual that tells you how to use all this stuff you've stockpiled.

greling said:
4.) Sports towels

Everyone knows all you really need is a good towel.

Millions survived Katrina without guns.

And there were also many many people with guns looting the stores to the point at which cops didn't even try to stop them because it was too dangerous.

scott1961 said:A gun, and one bullet. Put in mouth, Pull trigger and no worries

When you kill yourself, you kill the world.

First, Russians are not going to invade. They seem to have trouble controlling much smaller regions like Afganistan or Chechen republic. Why not Chinese or Indians?

Second, if Russians do invade, it seems to be very easy to commandeer their ammo, weapons and military vehicles, at least in the movies...

Third, buy weapons that are compatible with the most commonly used ammo of the expected invader.

NukeMedDude said:All you need is plenty of ammo if the Russians decide to invade......

 

WOLVERINESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

Economist said:First, Russians are not going to invade. They seem to have trouble controlling much smaller regions like Afganistan or Chechen republic. Why not Chinese or Indians?

Second, if Russians do invade, it seems to be very easy to commandeer their ammo, weapons and military vehicles, at least in the movies...

Third, buy weapons that are compatible with the most commonly used ammo of the expected invader.

NukeMedDude said:All you need is plenty of ammo if the Russians decide to invade......

 

WOLVERINESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

Russia will only invade if you have oil, and Putin wants it, and he feels like maybe you didn't pay enough taxes

mhesidence said:greling said:

*TOOLS*
12.) Small Sawed-off Shotgun



That's a tool? I'd like to see the weapons category.

BTW, wait until after law has broken down before sawing off shot guns since that's illegal.
You might want to leave a few unsawed for hunting birds.

A gun should be classified as a tool, just as a knife is a tool.

In general, sawing off shotguns is only illegal based on the barrel length and the overall gun length. There may be more state-specific laws, but in general, shortening a 28" barrel to 20" is fine. Any gunsmith will do it for you.

I second the recommendation of a rifle; a nice 30-30 or 30-06 would net you any game you wanted (deer are too plentiful around here).

Also, don't forget about the zombies.

Dont worry Dubya and Paulson have rescued us today with their MASTER PLAN. Buy Buy Buy. The economy depends on u. Don let the terrorists win. LMFAO.

a. 9mm or .40 w/ 15 rd. magazine to protect your person.
b. Pump 12 Ga w/ 9 rd. magazine to protect your abode.
c. 7mm mag or 300 mag to reach out and touch someone.
d. Optional: an AK-47, SKS or AR-15 with high capacity magazine for travel.
e. Last but not least, a carbon fiber boot knife for when any/all of the above fails.

Of course the ammo goes without saying.