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Found this post on Bank Deals. Apparently, Banking Guy has a source at PenFed, or close to it. To summarize:

* PenFed's Board of Directors have approved a CD promotion in January with rates over 5% APY -- probably closer to 5% than 6%. Disappointing. Maximum rates are 5% APY/5-year, 5.25% APY/7-year.

* PenFed will change their VISA Platinum Cash Reward credit card to add 2% Cash Back for groceries on top of the 5% Cash Back for gas and 1.25% Cash Back for all other purchases. The card has no annual fee, and posts the cash rewards amount each month, deducting the amount from your statement balance. The 2% groceries Cash Back shows on the PenFed web site. The 5.99% APR balance transfer now has a 1% balance transfer fee, (min. $10, max. $100).

* Auto loan rates are planned to fall from 5.29% APR to 4.99% APR. Shows on the PenFed web site.

As described in the Bank Deal's post, PenFed membership is open to all. If you don't meet any other qualification, you can join the National Military Family Association with a $20 one-year membership fee. Joining the NMFA can be done as part of the on-line application process for joining PenFed.

Summary of Bank Deals post about new promotions and changes in January. Feel free to change if information changes between now and then:

* PenFed's Board of Directors have approved a CD promotion in January with rates over 5% APY -- probably closer to 5% than 6%.

* PenFed posted information about the new certificate rates today (12/27). An excerpt from Bank Deals post (see link below) about this:

"The highest yield is 5.25% APY, but this requires a 7-year term. The 5-year term has a yield of 5.00% APY which is just 5 basis points higher than the previous 4.95% APY. The rates for the shorter terms didn't change."

* PenFed will change their VISA Platinum Cash Reward credit card to add 2% Cash Back for groceries on top of the 5% Cash Back for gas and 1.25% Cash Back for all other purchases. The card has no annual fee, and posts the cash rewards amount each month, deducting the amount from your statement balance. This change now shows on PenFed's web site. A 1% balance transfer fee, min. $10, max. $100 has been added.

* Auto loan rates are planned to fall from 5.29% APR to 4.99% APR. This change now shows on PenFed's web site.

PenFed hard credit inquiry practice from Bank Deals post, YMMV:

Note, you will incur a hard credit inquiry by applying for this credit card and for joining Penfed. It has been mentioned that Penfed doesn't initiate a new hard pull for 60 days after it does a hard pull. So if you sign up for the card within 60 days of joining, you may only be hit with one hard pull.

It is very easy to qualify for membership in PenFed. Besides being in the military yourself or working for government in certain military-related capacities, you can qualify if you've a family member/housemate who is eligible to join PenFed, meaning they don't even have to be a PenFed member themselves.

Don't waste your time with the NMFA. Join SAME, they're free and easy to join online. glxpass here. SAME is the Society of American Military Engineers, and is open to all with an interest in military engineering. The free membersip only applies to high school students or full-time college undergraduate students.

Links:

Bank Deals post about PenFed January Promotions and Changes

Bank Deals post about release of new (disappointing) certificate rates

Pentagon Federal Credit Union (PenFed) Home Page

PenFed How to Join Page

PenFed Auto Loans Page

Pentagon Federal Credit Union Fixed Rate Home Equity Loan 4.99% APR up to 120 months

Student Application to Join SAME

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PenFed is one of the credit unions that does a hard pull when you join.

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Thanks for the heads up! Will have to take a look in Jan!

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PenFed just started offering a fixed rate 4.99% APR 120 month home equity loan. I applied today (refinancing my 5.99% 15 yr HEL):

http://www.penfed.org/productsAndRates/mortgages/homeEquity.asp

Fixed Equity Loan Rates

    OWNER OCCUPIED HOME -
    80% OR LESS LOAN TO VALUE (LTV)
    Borrow $10,000 - $400,000 APR
    Up to 60 Months 4.99
    61 to 120 Months 4.99*
    121 to 180 Months 5.99*
    181 to 240 Months 5.99*
    OWNER OCCUPIED HOME -
    80.01% TO 90% LOAN TO VALUE (LTV)
    Borrow $10,000 - $400,000 APR
    Up to 60 Months 7.24
    61 to 120 Months 7.49
    121 to 180 Months 8.49
    181 to 240 Months 8.99
    OWNER OCCUPIED HOME - GREATER THAN 90% LTV
    Borrow $10,000 - $100,000 APR
    Up to 60 Months 7.74
    61 to 120 Months 7.99
    121 to 180 Months 8.99
    181 to 240 Months 9.49
    NON-OWNER OCCUPIED HOME - UP TO 75% LTV
    Borrow $10,000 - $400,000 APR
    Up to 60 Months 7.99
    61 to 144 Months 8.99

Pentagon Federal Home Equity Loan & Line Program Highlights

    * No Points
    * No Closing Costs
    * Tax Deductible Interest
    * Fixed-Rate Equity Loan - Available in all states. Rate is dependent on term length, loan to value ratio, fair market value, and owner occupancy.
    * Variable-Rate Equity Line of Credit - Available in all states. Additional restrictions apply in Texas. Rate equals Wall Street Journal Prime Rate minus 0.5%, or Prime Rate plus 0.5%, depending on the loan to value ratio and occupancy.
    * Owner-Occupied Property - Terms up to 20 years.
    * Non-Owner Occupied Property - Terms up to 12 years.
    * Loan Amounts -
    Equity Loan: $10,000.00 to $400,000.00 (>90% LTV to $100,000)
    Equity Line of Credit: $10,000.00 to $400,000.00.
    Total indebtedness not to exceed $400,000 for all Equity Loans and ELOCs combined.

Home Equity Loan Disclosure:

    *Internet-Only special rate.

    See your tax advisor for details on tax deductibility of interest.

    Home Equity Loan: Rate depends on term length, Loan-to-Value (LTV), Fair Market Value (FMV), owner occupancy, and use of funds. Maximum 100% of FMV for owner-occupied properties less any outstanding trusts. Loans with LTV greater than 80% available at a higher rate, and loans with LTV greater than 90% are limited to $100,000. Otherwise, maximum 75% of LTV for nonowner-occupied, and 80% for Texas properties. Cost of appraisal, if required, will be the member's expense. 4.99% APR is for loans on owner-occupied properties with LTV of 80% or below only. Rates are higher for nonowner-occupied properties. Minimum loan amount is $10,000. Other terms and conditions apply; call for details.

    Refinancing: If a home equity loan is over 1 year old, the policy remains the same and the member must take at least an additional $10,000 above the payoff amount when refinancing. Otherwise, if less than 1 year since the home equity loan closed, the member must take at least $25,000 above the payoff amount when refinancing.

    Texas property: Maximum Combined Loan to Value (CLTV) in Texas is 80%. Additional restrictions apply to Texas. Pentagon Federal Credit Union Equity Loans: Available in all states. Property insurance required. Cost of appraisal, if required, will be the member's expense. Other terms and conditions apply; call 1-800-970-7766 for details.

    Closing Costs: Pentagon Federal will pay all closing costs associated with the Equity or ELOC loan. Should this loan be paid off or closed within 24 months from the anniversary date of the loan closing, the member will be obligated to pay Pentagon Federal the full amount of the total closing cost for the loan.

    LTV is capped at 90% on owner occupied loans for the following areas: States of NY, CA, FL, MA, AZ, CO, GA, NJ, CT. Counties of: Clark & Henderson county NV; Ann Arundel, Calvert, Charles, Frederick, Howard, Prince Georges, Montgomery, St Mary’s, MD; Counties of: Fairfax, Arlington, Fauquier, Loudoun, Prince William, Stafford, Spotsylvania, VA; Cities of Alexandria, Falls Church, Fredericksburg, Manassas Park, VA. Washington DC.

    Owner-occupied property:
    $10,000 to $400,000 for owner occupied home equity loans up to 90% of fair market value (FMV);
    Loans with a loan to value (LTV) greater than 90% will be higher. $10,000 to $100,000 for owner occupied home equity loans of 90.01% or greater of FMV.

    Non-owner occupied property: Fixed Rate Home Equity Loans (max LTV of 75%): 8.99% up to 144 months.

    Home equity loan example: Monthly payment of $580 on a $30,000 loan for 60 months at 4.99% APR with an owner occupied property.

    For both Equity Loans and ELOCs: Total indebtedness not to exceed $400,000 for all Equity Loans and ELOCs combined.

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ThursdaysChild said:PenFed is one of the credit unions that does a hard pull when you join.
Thanks. I added the information from the Bank Deals post to the Quick Summary.

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Will PenFed refinance an auto loan from another lender?

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VerbalK said:Will PenFed refinance an auto loan from another lender?
According to their Auto Loans Page, yes, although I can't tell if there are restrictions or not based on model year. It's probably safest to contact them and report back what you've learned. I added this link to the Quick Summary.

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VerbalK said:Will PenFed refinance an auto loan from another lender?
Yes

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Fantastic on the 4.99/120 month deal. Now if they would just drop the 240 month rate a tad....

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ThursdaysChild said:PenFed is one of the credit unions that does a hard pull when you join.
Just remember to also get a card right after. They use that same pull for that. So even though they pulled on me I at least ended up with $40k more of credit

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Phoenix

Do you have an existing Penfed heloan?

I noticed the clause for refinancing:

Refinancing: If a home equity loan is over 1 year old, the policy remains the same and the member must take at least an additional $10,000 above the payoff amount when refinancing. Otherwise, if less than 1 year since the home equity loan closed, the member must take at least $25,000 above the payoff amount when refinancing.

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glxpass said:Found this post on Bank Deals. Apparently, Banking Guy has a source at PenFed, or close to it. To summarize:

* PenFed's Board of Directors have approved a CD promotion in January with rates over 5% APY -- probably closer to 5% than 6%.

* PenFed will change their VISA Platinum Cash Reward credit card to add 2% Cash Back for groceries on top of the 5% Cash Back for gas and 1.25% Cash Back for all other purchases. The card has no annual fee, and posts the cash rewards amount each month, deducting the amount from your statement balance.

* Auto loan rates are planned to fall from 5.29% APR to 4.99% APR.

As described in the Bank Deal's post, PenFed membership is open to all. If you don't meet any other qualification, you can join the National Military Family Association with a $20 one-year membership fee. Joining the NMFA can be done as part of the on-line application process for joining PenFed.

I just called to ask about transferring my Gold Card to the rebate card without a credit pull. If you do it over the phone, they WILL pull a report. However, you can use this form Link to Form to convert if you have a credit limit of at least $5,000 with NO pull.

There is another form if you have a CL of less than $5000 which asks for more info -- Job, income, etc. I did not ask if this would result in a credit pull.

The CSR also verifed the 2% Cash Back on groceries starting next month.

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Do you think the 2% back on groceries will include WalMart Supercenters?

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Please note:

Closing Costs: Pentagon Federal will pay all closing costs associated with the Equity or ELOC loan. Should this loan be paid off or closed within 24 months from the anniversary date of the loan closing, the member will be obligated to pay Pentagon Federal the full amount of the total closing cost for the loan.

So basically a 2 year penalty of the closing costs.

Shahhere

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glxpass said:As described in the Bank Deal's post, PenFed membership is open to all. If you don't meet any other qualification, you can join the National Military Family Association with a $20 one-year membership fee. Joining the NMFA can be done as part of the on-line application process for joining PenFed.

Don't forget that if your spouse, grandchild, child, stepparent, sibling, stepchild, parent, stepsibling, grandparent, domestic partner, legal guardian, foster child, or roommate is eligible, you are eligible.

Therefore, if you have a relationship to someone in the U.S. Army, Air Force, Coast Guard, Reserves, National Guard, ROTC (Advanced Cadets), Pentagon Building, Department of Defense, Homeland Security, etc. you are eligible. Also, if you have a relationship to someone in a participating organization, you are eligible. Some free ways to join if you are not in the military:

* You have a grandparent or parent that served in the military (WWII for example).
* You are or have a relationship to a high school or college student who can get a free SAME student membership.

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ecjjones said:Phoenix

Do you have an existing Penfed heloan?

I noticed the clause for refinancing:

Refinancing: If a home equity loan is over 1 year old, the policy remains the same and the member must take at least an additional $10,000 above the payoff amount when refinancing. Otherwise, if less than 1 year since the home equity loan closed, the member must take at least $25,000 above the payoff amount when refinancing.

Yeah I do, so I am taking out an additional $25k to qualify for the refi.

shahhere said:Please note:

Closing Costs: Pentagon Federal will pay all closing costs associated with the Equity or ELOC loan. Should this loan be paid off or closed within 24 months from the anniversary date of the loan closing, the member will be obligated to pay Pentagon Federal the full amount of the total closing cost for the loan.

So basically a 2 year penalty of the closing costs.

Yes, I think this is a new clause. The paperwork for my 15yr HEL doesn't contain this term, and the loan officer who took my app (I had to call because the online app wouldn't let me get past a certain screen) also said that I won't have to pay back any closing costs for my existing loan because I fell under the old terms. I will post an update to confirm once I close.

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I have a 20 year at 5.99, but got it within the last year...so I would have to do the additional 25K....I guess I could take that money and use it to pay off some of my first mortgage...just not sure yet....

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Best car rates around and some of the best customer service from a bank that I've experienced.

Thanks for the info -- might have to look into getting one of those CDs if I can recoup some of the losses in my money market lately.

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ahecht said:glxpass said:As described in the Bank Deal's post, PenFed membership is open to all. If you don't meet any other qualification, you can join the National Military Family Association with a $20 one-year membership fee. Joining the NMFA can be done as part of the on-line application process for joining PenFed.

Don't forget that if your spouse, grandchild, child, stepparent, sibling, stepchild, parent, stepsibling, grandparent, domestic partner, legal guardian, foster child, or roommate is eligible, you are eligible.

Therefore, if you have a relationship to someone in the U.S. Army, Air Force, Coast Guard, Reserves, National Guard, ROTC (Advanced Cadets), Pentagon Building, Department of Defense, Homeland Security, etc. you are eligible. Also, if you have a relationship to someone in a participating organization, you are eligible. Some free ways to join if you are not in the military:

* You have a grandparent or parent that served in the military (WWII for example).
* You are or have a relationship to a high school or college student who can get a free SAME student membership.

Thanks for emphasizing this. I put some of the information into the Quick Summary, along with a link to PenFed's "How to Join" page.

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