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First Arkansas Bank & Trust (FABaT) - FirstNet Checking
This is a reward checking account, open to all, with a 50K cap on earning the 4.44% APY. Balances over 50K will earn 1.76% APY. Note: the APY was 6.06% with no cap, but this changed effective 2/5/2008. Account holders prior to 2/5 will earn 4.44% APY, but be grandfathered in with no cap, at least until June, 2008. Credit goes to Bank Deals for this post.

To ask questions about Reward Checking accounts in general, debate their merits, discuss strategies of meeting their requirements, or discuss methods that might encourage banks and credit unions to continue to offer their reward checking products at favorable terms, please go to the Reward Checking Accounts - Issues and Discussion Thread. Let's confine the scope of this thread to FirstNet Checking.


Features and Excerpts from FAQ:

* Earn 4.44% APY, with 50K cap, balances over 50K earn 1.76% APY. Existing FirstNet checking account prior to 2/5 will not be subject to the cap, at least until June, 2008. No documentation yet of the June, 2008 date being a guarantee.
* No maintenance fees.
* Free ATMs worldwide - "we refund ATM fees incurred by other banks worldwide".
* If below requirements (see Requirements section) are not met, rate is 0.05% APY and no ATM fee refunds.
* Available to all; apply on-line.
* Minimum $100 to open, no minimum balance.
* Free on-line banking and bill pay. Bill pay system is checkfree.
* Mastercard debit card.
* Per CSR, they use ChexSystems; there is no hard credit pull. Edit: now I'm told their signature card says they "reserve the right to pull a hard credit check." Waiting to hear about people's experience with this.
* One negative: no free checks. Correction: they will give you 8 starter checks upon request.
* Per CSR, from comment in Bank Deals post, "...revocable trusts are also eligible. After you apply on-line, someone contacts you and lets you know what documentation will be needed."
* Debit card limit - ATM withdrawals: $500/day.
* Debit card limit - POS transactions: $1500/day.
* Statement cycle begins with the first working day of a given month. For example, the January 2008 statement cycle is January 2nd through January 31st.
* Qualification period is through the last working day of a given month; debit card transactions must post to the account no later than this date in order to count for the corresponding statement cycle. For example, the qualification period for the December 2007 statement cycle is December 1st through December 31st; thus the qualification period for the January 2008 statement cycle is January 1st through January 31st.
* All account holders will receive rewards during their very first statement cycle.
* Interest is calculated on the daily collected balance and credited at the end of each cycle.
* You will receive a qualify/non-qualify (for rewards) e-mail at the end of each statement cycle.
* A debit card reversal will not count against the requirements.
* Check images not available with e-statements, however...
* If a printed check copy is needed, a 24-month history of check images is kept, and you can print them from Online Banking.
* There are no limits to the number of FirstNet Checking accounts that any one address can have.
* The following business entities may have a FirstNet Checking account:
Sole Proprietorship (DBA)
Non-profit organizations
Governmental units
Funds held by a fiduciary
* Routing Number: 082007649

Requirements:

* Make at least 10 point of sale debit card transactions per statement cycle. Note: It's been confirmed several times that FABaT doesn't really mean "Point of Sale", which requires your physical presence where you're making the purchase; FABaT means all purchases -- on-line or in person. ATM transactions (as with most other Reward Checking accounts) don't count.
* Set up one monthly direct deposit or ACH auto debit or make one online bill payment per statement cycle
* Receive e-statements
* Sign in to your online banking account once per statement cycle

Account opening process

Note: a FWF poster pointed out that the following comment was made on the Bank Deals post:

"If you are having a delay I was told it takes them 24 hours to get the applications from the http://www.firstnetchecking.com website, but they get them right away from the https://www.firstarkansasbank.com website."

The firstnetcheck.com website is the interactive tutorial about FirstNet Checking. The other url is a page from the FABaT website.

1. Apply on-line.
2. The bank checks all the on-line applications in the morning.
3. You will be contacted within one business day (it might be more due to the volume of applications) so they can review the application with you.
4. They will mail a welcome packet to you, which should include:
* Cover letter, indicating what's in the welcome packet, and instructions for sending them the required information.
* Signature card.
* Check card application.
* Authorization Agreement for ACH Transfer.
* Starter checks.
* Check order form.
5. Mail the required information to FABaT:
* Completed signature card, with the appropriate blanks filled in, and with signature(s). Note that you can change the initial deposit amount that was on the on-line application to whatever you want.
* Completed check card application, with signatures.
* Copy of your driver's license, notarized. If you're opening a joint accout, you can copy both driver's licenses on a single sheet of paper, and have that notarized.
* Copy of utility bill showing name and address of at least one of the account holders. If that's not available, you can use a credit card statement or cell phone bill. Previously, FABaT said this must be notarized, but they dropped that requirement, because it's ridiculous and many Notaries won't notarize a copy of that kind of document.
* If you want to fund the account, completed Authorization Agreement for ACH Transfer; otherwise, enclose one or more checks for that purpose.
* If you want to order checks, the completed check order form.
5. Upon FABaT receiving your information and processing it, you should receive an e-mail from them, stating that on-line access is approved.
6. Go to the FABaT web site and, under Online Banking, click on Sign Up. Enter the requested information, including the Access ID and Passcode you want to use.
7. Once you've signed in to Online Banking, click on the User Services tab, then E-Statements Only. It should show that you've opted in for them.
8. From Online Banking, click on the Payments tab, and use edit to request bill pay for your checking account. This will go into a pending status, and presumably will get approved.


About the bank, excerpted from Bank Deals post:

"FABaT is larger than SBoT so this may help it keep the high rate and cap longer. However, it's still not a large bank. It has 208 employees, $480 million in assets and $356 million in deposits based on 9/30/07 data. It has 25 branches in Arkansas.

The bank is FDIC insured (Certificate # 16849). It was established in 1949. The bank has a 4 out of 5 star rating (sound) at Bankrate and a 5 out of 5 star rating (superior) at BauerFinancial. Both are based on 9/30/07 data."


Useful Links:

Bank Deals post

First Arkansas Bank & Trust home page

FirstNet Checking link on FAB&T site

FirstNet Checking Interactive Tutorial with FAQ Section

FABaT Fee Schedule

FW Discussion: Automatic $1.00 Monthly Donations To Qualify For Reward Offers

Reward Checking Accounts - Issues and Discussion Thread

Message edited by: glxpass on 2008-02-06 10:50:03 CST
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A little too much work for me (see first requirement in QS); though nice flexibility, ATM access, and rate. Wonder which vendor provides the billpay. Thanks OP.


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Venturion said:A little too much work for me (see first requirement in QS); though nice flexibility, ATM access, and rate. Wonder which vendor provides the billpay. Thanks OP.
And thanks for starting in on the Quick Summary. I know this has been a subject of contention, but don't let the first requirement deter you from this type of account. It's easier to meet that requirement than you might think!


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Your formatting is much nicer

I'm sure Scott and David will appear shortly to argue the merits of the ease of meeting the debit transaction requirements. I will gladly admit that I've always shied away so I don't have any experience trying it. The most I've been willing to do is the 2 discover 0% for life transactions. Perhaps you might add a pointer in the QS to what I believe is another thread discussing strategies for meeting the min. debit transaction requirement. The ATM fee refund is very tempting. If you call them, please also find out ATM withdrawal limits (also another link to consider adding based on the recent ATM withdrawal thread - boy I'm lazy!). I run a small cash business that often requires taking out a couple thousand on occasion. Thanks.


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Applied today. Per CSR the debit card transactions can either be debit or credit. She also said that online transactions also meet requirements so I'm assuming that online payments or purhases with the card also count as well. This will be my third reward checking account. I may consider closing SBoT but will see how it goes.


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signed up. lets see if it works! Thanks OP and bankdeals!


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stfs said:Applied today. Per CSR the debit card transactions can either be debit or credit. She also said that online transactions also meet requirements so I'm assuming that online payments or purhases with the card also count as well. This will be my third reward checking account. I may consider closing SBoT but will see how it goes.
Thanks for the information. I applied as well and was told I should get a call on January 2nd. I sent an e-mail to them, asking about PIN-based and signature-based meeting the transaction requirements, as well as details about the statement cycle dates, qualification dates for those cycles, ATM withdrswal limits, and debit card POS transaction limits. I'll post the answers in the Quick Summary.


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inevitable question...hard pull?


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"First Arkansas Bank and Trust" appears in the the list of accounts at yodlee - always a good thing.

thanks for posting this OP!


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lhendricks92 said:inevitable question...hard pull?
As the Quick Summary says, no -- at least that's what a CSR told me when I called.

Edited way after the fact to say that either a hard pull *might* be done or *will* be done. Will report on when I know.


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sorry, missed that. i'm all over this, pending a bit of due diligence. 10 online transactions is cake. i've used iMacros to automatically pay my phone bill in $1 increments.


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Maybe Dave can now find true love again? Then he can start a thread about how to make $1 automated debits so that many can abuse the intent of the bank and the next thing you know deal ends or greatly lowered. I will probably stay away, No problem with requirements as I do find it very easy by just buying coffee at Starbucks a few times a week. Just don't really feel like opening another account right now when i know rate will not last.


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I just put some $ in coutrywide bank's 3 month CD at 5.5% apy. Now I am gonna move some other money to this 6.06% APY checking acct. Hope this APY will last a few months...


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even if it just lasts a few months, 6.06% is a fantastic rate. plus, they're making it pretty easy to set up with no hard pull. what's not to like?

i didn't jump on Toledo because it seemed like a total pain in the arse to set up (notarized slips of paper? wtf?), and my money was working just as hard elsewhere. the timing and the ease of this deal may actually spur me to act.


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Jumped in quick before they limit to local put a cap. What the heck do they want for "Source of Initial Deposit"? Just a bank name? Routing and account number?


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ok, for shits and giggles I just did the application. Put initial deposit at $100k and in the funding box I put "Check/ACH?" Will be fun to see where this accounts goes


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mhesidence said:Jumped in quick before they limit to local put a cap. What the heck do they want for "Source of Initial Deposit"? Just a bank name? Routing and account number?

I just put "check"


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scott1961 said:Maybe Dave can now find true love again? Then he can start a thread about how to make $1 automated debits so that many can abuse the intent of the bank and the next thing you know deal ends or greatly lowered. I will probably stay away, No problem with requirements as I do find it very easy by just buying coffee at Starbucks a few times a week. Just don't really feel like opening another account right now when i know rate will not last.
As one of the what you call "abusers", I thought I'd respond. Yes, it's quite possible that a plethora of people making $1.00 (or less) transactions will reduce the lifespan of these deals. IMO though, there are many other factors that could cause the demise of these accounts, or least lowered rates and greater restrictions:

. The poor rate environment (for savers, but good for borrowers, especially banks) that we're in.
. Tons of people opening these accounts, making the banks pay huge amounts of interest to account holders.
, A bank or CU making the account open to all, even more encouragement for high volume.
. No cap; ditto on the encouragement.
. Not putting a minimum $ amount on transactions that meet the number of transactions requirement.

It's interesting to me how loopholes make AORs so desirable. IMO, credit card companies are more sophisticated in the strategies they follow, though. For Reward Checking accounts, I get the impression that banks are just using a template -- specific marketing materials have been linked to in other threads -- and not really taking into consideration the factors that they can control.

I simply don't feel responsible for looking out for a bank's or CU's or credit card company's best interests. I'd rather have them assume responsibility for coming up with a plan that balances their profit with gaining customers.

I think any posts beyond this one -- and I apologize for going OT -- discussing how to or even whether to behave in a certain fashion in order to maximize the duration of a Reward Checking account belong in a new thread, where we can debate this to our heart's content.


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2stepsbehind said:mhesidence said:Jumped in quick before they limit to local put a cap. What the heck do they want for "Source of Initial Deposit"? Just a bank name? Routing and account number?

I just put "check"

I put the bank name and "personal check". I believe the initial funding of this account is done by check only when you send the materials back to them, so I'm not sure of the purpose of the question. Perhaps we all should have said $100 in order not to scare them too much. I dread what's going to happen when they see Scott's 100K. That might shut the whole deal down immediately!


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