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I think one of the main things the banks get from these programs is the opportunity to retain a customer after the rate falls. I switched banks after opening for a signup bonus, just because the service was better.

Another is local bragging rights. I read somewhere in FWF that SBoT recently increased their deposits quite a bit. Here's a quote from their homepage that I don't remember seeing when I opened that account:

" We have the largest deposit market share in Tama County, Iowa, making us the largest and most successful bank in our trade area."

I can see the poster in the community room right now...

So maybe they like our current behavior. With the Rewards Checking program being marketed as a package to small banks, I think we can expect a steady stream of new banks offering this, then cutting rates after 6 months. Especially after we make the marketing company successful with a string of these. I'm sure BankVue will forget to mention in their marketing materials about the drop in deposits coming down the road because of those friggin rate wh#res!


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APY drop on Accelerator Checking at Twin Star Credit Union in Washington State - now 4.75% APY.


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SeattleNative said:APY drop on Accelerator Checking at Twin Star Credit Union in Washington State - now 4.75% APY.

They apparently had a .75% rate drop, just like the FOMC rate cut today.


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Interesting Bank Deals post on History of Reward Checking accounts. The post links to an article about how, in 1997, City National Bank in Taylor, TX worked with BancVue to develop a product for the bank that used electronic banking and offered a higher interest rate. BancVue continued to develop the product, and with 10 other banks worked to "perfect the software and processes." In October 2005, BancVue rolled out the Reward Checking product nationwide.

Added link to Quick Summary.

Message edited by: glxpass on 2008-01-23 01:18:16 CST
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yep...that's true..i use to have accounts with City National of Taylor....although i didn't know that Bankvue had developed the concept for them...I had "Reward Checking" before it was even fashionable (lol)..

they have the same 10 debit card requirements and e-statements requirements just like the new Reward Checking accounts do (and unlimited free atm rebates)...

But their interest rate on it, has never been more then 4% at it's highest...in fact, their Reward Savings (which has no requirements) was always a drop higher (use to be about 4.39% APY)....

I think the problem is, with many of these Reward Checking accounts, is it is hard to sustain that very high rate for a long period of time (unless they cap it at $25,000)...which is why i don't open up those accounts anymore....

But if your a frequent debit card user, it's not a bad deal....


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5.55% guaranteed for a few months
Edit: after browsing the website, it appears it's just a local bank, I think you have to apply at a branch, so this account is not available for everyone. Strange: $3 a chargeback fee ???

Message edited by: g10ny on 2008-01-24 02:45:28 CST
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anybody have experience with 6.01% APY No Fee Checking Account from First Banking Center

I got the offer from

www.creditkarma.com


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szhang6 said:anybody have experience with 6.01% APY No Fee Checking Account from First Banking Center

I got the offer from

www.creditkarma.com

Can you make a branch visit to open the account? If not, you can't get the account. See this post.

Message edited by: glxpass on 2008-02-04 21:20:41 CST
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Does anyone have any interest in starting a thread that tracks both local and national reward checking accounts with caps of at least $50K? $25K-capped reward checking accounts are a dime a dozen these days, and I doubt I could be bothered to make 10-12 debit card transactions for a $25K-capped reward checking account. I think I could be bothered for a $100K-capped account, and I haven't decided about $50K. AFAIK, the only nationally available account with >5.5% APY that meets this criterion is AAFCU. In MA, one can find $100K-capped accounts like Fitchburg Savings Bank.


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For nationally available accounts that meet your requirements, its easy enough to use the Reward Checking Accounts (High Yield and Available to All) thread. For locally available accounts, assuming your limiting, see Bank Deals - The Best Checking Accounts, where there's a list of local Reward Checking accounts by state. If Banking Guy can be convinced to keep this list updated, and if he's willing to add the cap amount to each link, then perhaps a separate FWF thread wouldn't be necessary.

I admit that I'm lazy when it comes to maintaining lists that I could instead find quickly elsewhere.


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glxpass said:For locally available accounts, assuming your limiting, see Bank Deals - The Best Checking Accounts, where there's a list of local Reward Checking accounts by state. If Banking Guy can be convinced to keep this list updated, and if he's willing to add the cap amount to each link, then perhaps a separate FWF thread wouldn't be necessary.
As you noted, that list doesn't state the cap, and it also doesn't even include Fitchburg Savings Bank, which appears to be the best reward checking account available. This info isn't consolidated and/or easily accessible on Bank Deals.


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beethovengirl said:glxpass said:For locally available accounts, assuming your limiting, see Bank Deals - The Best Checking Accounts, where there's a list of local Reward Checking accounts by state. If Banking Guy can be convinced to keep this list updated, and if he's willing to add the cap amount to each link, then perhaps a separate FWF thread wouldn't be necessary.
As you noted, that list doesn't state the cap, and it also doesn't even include Fitchburg Savings Bank, which appears to be the best reward checking account available. This info isn't consolidated and/or easily accessible on Bank Deals.

True about the link I gave in my above post, however there are other ways to view Reward Checking accounts at Bank Deals, such as via labels like rewards checking accounts or, for older entries, reward checking accounts. Fitchburg is mentioned in the latter link. Important terms, such as cap, are usually mentioned in the first paragraph.

I added the Bank Deals links to the Quick Summary.

If you wish to start a thread as you mentioned, go for it. For me, such a thread wouldn't be very useful.

Message edited by: glxpass on 2008-02-18 09:48:02 CST
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Till now, I haven't jumped on the rewards checking bandwagon because I was doing better with Cash Back offers and other options, but now things have changed, and I'm ready to jump on.

Here's a basic question that will probably get me red, but I just want to confirm something. If I go to my utility company's website for example and setup an automatic payment of my bill as an ACH transaction to my checking account, does the bank consider this an "ACH auto debit?" That term "ACH Auto Debit" is confusing to me. It can also mean that you have to initiate the debit from the bank end and push it out.

Although a basic question, I searched and didn't find this asked in particular.


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PerkGetter said:Till now, I haven't jumped on the rewards checking bandwagon because I was doing better with Cash Back offers and other options, but now things have changed, and I'm ready to jump on.

Here's a basic question that will probably get me red, but I just want to confirm something. If I go to my utility company's website for example and setup an automatic payment of my bill as an ACH transaction to my checking account, does the bank consider this an "ACH auto debit?" That term "ACH Auto Debit" is confusing to me. It can also mean that you have to initiate the debit from the bank end and push it out.

Although a basic question, I searched and didn't find this asked in particular.

"ACH Auto Debit" is when you use your account and routing number to debit your reward checking account, i.e. pay a bill.

You must also use your "debit card" a specific number of times during the monthly cycle.


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PerkGetter said:Till now, I haven't jumped on the rewards checking bandwagon because I was doing better with Cash Back offers and other options, but now things have changed, and I'm ready to jump on.

Here's a basic question that will probably get me red, but I just want to confirm something. If I go to my utility company's website for example and setup an automatic payment of my bill as an ACH transaction to my checking account, does the bank consider this an "ACH auto debit?" That term "ACH Auto Debit" is confusing to me. It can also mean that you have to initiate the debit from the bank end and push it out.

Although a basic question, I searched and didn't find this asked in particular.
In my vast <rolls eyes> experience (I have rewards checking accounts at 6 different financial institutions) that particular scenario will exactly meet the definition of ACH debit. However the definition may be looser than you expect. Don't let their reduntant term "auto" confuse the issue. Even a randomly initiated ACH in or out from (for example) PayPal, E-Trade, HSBC, etc will work.

There was much discussion about this on the SBOT thread a while back. See this post and the following AHA moment by dugggg (2 posts below) which even further clarifies it.


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mzsleeper said:PerkGetter said:Till now, I haven't jumped on the rewards checking bandwagon because I was doing better with Cash Back offers and other options, but now things have changed, and I'm ready to jump on.

Here's a basic question that will probably get me red, but I just want to confirm something. If I go to my utility company's website for example and setup an automatic payment of my bill as an ACH transaction to my checking account, does the bank consider this an "ACH auto debit?" That term "ACH Auto Debit" is confusing to me. It can also mean that you have to initiate the debit from the bank end and push it out.

Although a basic question, I searched and didn't find this asked in particular.
In my vast <rolls eyes> experience (I have rewards checking accounts at 6 different financial institutions) that particular scenario will exactly meet the definition of ACH debit. However the definition may be looser than you expect. Don't let their reduntant term "auto" confuse the issue. Even a randomly initiated ACH in or out from (for example) PayPal, E-Trade, HSBC, etc will work.

There was much discussion about this on the SBOT thread a while back. See this post and the following AHA moment by dugggg (2 posts below) which even further clarifies it.

Thank you so much for taking the time to respond and directing me to the SBOT thread. The fact that some of these terms don't make sense - er - well, make sense to me now. I think I'll go with Heartland Bank offer. The other things I'll need to find out is do they automatically send and charge you for checks, and once the account is initially funded, can I link/push/pull funds in and out from other banks such as my Chase checking account? I'll call the bank on Monday and ask unless someone here knows. Thanks again!


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I opened the rewards checking account at Heartland last week and just asked them about checks.

Heartland Community Bank said:We can order some checks for you. They are not free of charge. If you want to go with an introductory pack which are personalized checks, they run about $11.00. The introductory pack includes 50 checks. A full box of checks is around $16.00 and includes 150 checks. However, if you will only need a few, I can send you some temporary checks. We make the temporary checks here, so they would not have your information printed on the top.
So far, I'm impressed with the speed and professional style of the bank's communications.

3/5/08 Edit
A pack of 50 checks arrived today and my account shows a debit of $14.50 for them - ouch.
3/17/08 Edit
I wrote to a bank supervisor who apologized for ordering the wrong kind of checks and credited my account for the $3.50 difference.

Message edited by: Buckmann on 2008-03-18 19:41:32 CDT
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My Heartland Experience So Far

2/25 Filled in online application late Monday evening and sent to bank
2/26 Called bank around and spoke with Mary Cortez who told me to fax her a copy of my driver's
license and a utility bill. I did around 10 a.m.
Got an email from Mary around 1 p.m.telling me to send a check to fund the account. I opted to
snail mail a paper check. I should have used a credit card.
2/29 Account funded and open. Got a secure email telling me
1) how to log on to bank site and create a new password
2) ATM card would be sent to me in 2 weeks and a PIN in another mailing and how to
activate it
3) a box of checks ($13.45)had been automatically ordered (I asked for checks when I
sent the online application)and would be mailed to my home address.

I've spoken to two customer service reps and they have answered the phone on the second ring. They have been very helpful. I wish the bank's website had FAQ. So far I am impressed and pleased with HEARTLAND Community Bank.

Message edited by: mrvirgo on 2008-02-29 17:40:33 CST
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Buckmann said:I opened the rewards checking account at Heartland last week and just asked them about checks.

Heartland Community Bank said:We can order some checks for you. They are not free of charge. If you want to go with an introductory pack which are personalized checks, they run about $11.00. The introductory pack includes 50 checks. A full box of checks is around $16.00 and includes 150 checks. However, if you will only need a few, I can send you some temporary checks. We make the temporary checks here, so they would not have your information printed on the top.
So far, I'm impressed with the speed and professional style of the bank's communications.

glad to know that. I just opened a joint account with them yesterday. How long does it take for them to approve your account and send you the welcome package? Should I wait until they approve me to send back the signature card that I printed at the end of the app?

Thanks!


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mrvirgo said: Got an email from Mary around 1 p.m.telling me to send a check to fund the account. I opted to
snail mail a paper check. I should have used a credit card.

Do they actually take credit cards? I only saw ACH and checks in the initial funding screen.


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