kissmy said:Do you guys live in california or NJ?

I havent seen any of this stuff happen around my place

I used to live in California. Now I live in NJ.

Anakin

RationalCrust said:kamalktk said:RationalCrust said:
Interestingly, another MLM that pushes blueberry juice has recruited him with lots of $$$.
goji juice?

No, a different juice.

I had never heard of goji juice until I just Googled it.

Another juice with extraordinary claims. Oh goody.

Xango?

My parents got into Melaleuca for about a year.

They sell a random assortment of overpriced food, beauty products, and cleaners, with the added twist of melaleuca (tea tree oil) in EVERYTHING. If it's a product, they'll put melaleuca in it and overcharge you for it!

When they were doing it you had to purchase items in order to be able to resell them to others in the classic downline nonsense. Thankfully they quit when they realized no one else wanted to buy the junk.

Nice thread. I myself was one time a (possible) victim of this Quickstar Scam. Met this person in the airport in Tampa. Knowing that I had laptop, he thought I was a computer wiz & started to brag about his "Computer Networking Company"!! (Later I came to know that its his Quixstar business name, he had nothing to do with computers!). My wife was amazed to see lots of Asian/Indian/African/White people with their wifes wearing diamond (not sure if they are real, or even just buy & return thingy!). But it was impressive. I had my instincts that tells me dont believe anything, since the "sponsor" was so secretive - no other sensible talk but for showing off his income check (photo copies) from all over the world. I heard from my Indian friend that is a Doctor (& his wife as well) that was making more than $300K got pulled into this scheme and lost all they had and were spending on buying their "Cassettes/Tapes!! that teaches them how to market effectively" .Poor guy realised little later, got out of it without losing his job.

Reading FWF, I had more sensible ways to make money LEGALLY and proven. Esp I like the "Millionaire in 30's series".

Go after it if you:
1. Dont want to have any friends
2. Lose everything you have including your Job.
3. Want to spend loads of money and stack up Bullshit Cassettes/Tapes that they make you buy if you cannot get your target!.
4. Are a LUCKY dog that thinks that you will be the 1 that will magically climb up in the MLM Ladder!

Thanks for informative thread.

KCfromNC said:GreatestGambler said:
Almost every time the other person starts conversation. Probably 'they' are always looking for somebody to sell their scheme.
Same experience here, except change "Almost every time" to "Every single time". For me it has been gas stations and electronics stores. Perhaps they confuse my "I don't care if you're impressed with what I wear and drive" appearance with actually being poor. Or at least being a college student

Its probably the looking young and possibly naive that attracts this type, you look like a mark. Scammers used to start a conversation with me in bookstores, but I'm too old and cranky now.

I've discussed Amway/Quixtar/Alticor a few times on this board, with me living basically next door to their world HQ. In fact, my family is somewhat acquainted with the DeVos family, which is basically 1/2 of the entire Amway company. I will be the first one to be skeptical of Amway's business practices, and question the morality, if not the legality of the entire enterprise and its corporate structure.

That being said, I still think Amway gets a worse rap on FWF than they really deserve. Many, if not most, of the products you can buy from Amway, are extremely high quality, specifically in their cosmetics, food, and health care lines. Now, they very well may be overpriced as seen from the standpoint of FWF, and I can't honestly say because when I do buy their products (which is very rare, for the personal opinions stated above), I get them at 75% off. But to be honest, to their credit, the DeVos and VanAndel family have a history of being perfectionists in the quality control department.

I only wish they practiced that much due diligence elsewhere in the company.

I've got another one to add.
Agel.net
They're interesting- they seem to put up a lot of sites that pop up when you google "Agel scam." IOW, they have someone optimizing pages posted by proxy so they pop up and tell suckers how it's not a scam. One is supposedly by a person who is not involved any more but just wants to spread the wealth.
The owner of my local tire shop approached me with this "investment opportunity." He tried to get me to come back next week and talk it over. Now I need a new tire shop. The guy is poor and looking for cash and he's losing a long time customer, not gaining a second income.

Anybody have any info on http://www.foreverliving.com. Seems to be another MLM.

bharatharia said:Anybody have any info on http://www.foreverliving.com. Seems to be another MLM.You think ?Forever Living Marketing Plan
Forever Living's Marketing Plan is successful because it is simple; it's one of the easiest ways to get started in your own business. What's more, you'll start with proven, consumable products in an established, growing industry. Once you get started, FLP supplies the structure and support to help you grow your business to whatever size you want.

Our plan also keeps you secure in whatever level of success you achieve. So once you reach any position in the Marketing Plan, you'll stay there. You'll also enjoy the success of your team as the Marketing Plan doesn't allow any pass-ups.

Everything about the FLP business plan is designed to help you build a solid, stable business.
We have regular recognition and training meetings, and we minimize your paperwork and product inventory so you can spend more time where it really counts: with your customers and your distributors. With a better trained, highly motivated distributor team, your business grows steadily, earning you more income and getting you closer to your goals and dreams.

Uggh. Yuk. Thats the feeling I get when someone close to me hits me up with a multilevel marketing offer. A friend called me and had me and my wife get on the phone too and played a recorded offer to join Team National. You pay $400 (two years) or 2k (lifetime) to gain access to affiliate pricing on "Thousands of items you are already buying". Of course you can make money too, by selling these packages yourselves to people below you (on the PYRAMID!). Even if you don't "Share the info" (SCAM MORE PEOPLE!) you can "save thousands". No, you can't see a list of ACTUAL discounts, but here, read these many testimonials and life stories from people (WHO ARE TRYING TO GET MORE SUCKERS TO JOIN so they can gain back some of their "investment").

I doubt may Fatwallet people are dumb enough to pay money to get small discounts from retailers who would gladly email you the same discount (for example). You guys are getting the same deals through Cash Back already. But that's just it, this guy is a cool, regular guy.

After we listened to the recording, he wanted to start a conference call with someone else, presumably his higer-up, and I said,

1. No. There aint no free lunch, this sounds like MLM.
2. It must be hard to recruit your freinds for this, I don't hold it against you and I hope there will be no weirdness between us after this.

He said there would be no weirdness.

I feel revolted, almost as if I fell for it, and not him.

Just venting.