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I'd like to consolidate info on the issuers to determine 1) when we need to pay the entire BT off in order to avoid finance charges, and 2) can we move that date by pushing our statement date back? Please list the following in the quick summary:

1) Issuer Name

2) When BT is due back in order to avoid finance charges: 1) An exact date (such as 12 months) from the date you apply, 2)Before the due date during the billing cycle which ends your promotion.

3) If you push back your statement date, does this change how long you have to pay off your BT?

See Quick Summary for my postings.

I'd like to get this info for all issuers. If you have tried calling CSR's to figure this out, you know how much of a pain it can be as many reps will tell you different things.Please only add info if you have personally tested if waiting until the payment due date was ok. If you call 5 times and ask this question, I'm sure you will get 2 different answers at least. Therefore, only confirmed data please.

Message edited by: MikeR397 on 2008-01-21 17:22:29 CST

1) American Express (IN Cards, 6 month BT offer)
2) Pay by due date after your sixth statement is issued. (This is not what most AMEX CSR's will say, they have said it is due exactly 6 months from when you apply, but I have tested it and they did not issue any finance charges when I didn't pay until the due date, which was 20 days after the day I applied).
3) Yes, I pushed my statement date back from the 4th of the month to the 30th of the month. This extended my 6 month offer until by 26 days in addittion to the extra 20 days I earned from not paying until the 6th statement due date. Therefore, I have an extra 46 days of interest earning on my balances with AMEX. I only moved my statement back one time.

1) WAMU (ESPN Card, 6 month BT offer)
2) Must pay off exactly 6 months from when you were approved. I was charged finance charges for waiting until the payment due date. However, the CSR reversed the charges for me without a problem.
3) I did not try to move back the statement date, but it obviously will not extend the BT period as it is due exactly 6 months after you apply for the card and are approved.

1) National City (Visa Card, 6 month BT offer)
2) Pay by due date after your sixth statement is issued. For example (Sorry, I need examples, dates are fictitous but close to accurate):
Card Approved/Opened: Aug. 15, 2007
BT initiation date: Aug. 22, 2007
1st Statement close date: Sept 19, 2007
6th Statement close date: Feb. 18, 2008
Last payment due (including full balance): Mar. 10, 2008

3) I did not try to move back the statement date.

Message edited by: jfharper on 2008-03-16 14:06:26 CDT
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Bumpy Bump

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Addittion: Despite what WAMU (ESPN CARD) said over the phone to me, you cannot wait until the payment due date to make the last payment in full and avoid finance charges. You must pay off the balance exactly 6 months from when you were approved for the card. However, I did call WAMU and it was very easy for them to take the finance charges off. I just said "I called a month ago and asked when I had to pay off the balance in order to avoid finance charges, and they told me by the due date. However, I was charged. Could you please take this fee off?" Answer: Sure.

I'll be posting my experience with National City in a few weeks. I would really appreciate it if someone could post some information on Chase, BOA, Juniper, RBS, or some of the others. THANKS!

Message edited by: MikeR397 on 2008-01-21 17:20:55 CST
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there have been entire threads on some of chase's crazy terms...

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maddybeagle said:there have been entire threads on some of chase's crazy terms...I know that. I have participated in most of them. That is why I am asking for those that have personally tested the waters to see how waiting until the payment due date (and/or moving back statement dates) will affect finance charges (as so far my only first hand experience is with AMEX and WAMU).

Message edited by: MikeR397 on 2008-01-22 13:30:45 CST
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This is a good thread. Being my first A0R, I'd like to know 6 months in advanced when approx. my BTs are due, without having to call the CSR and get inaccurate info., or alert them to my scheme. I have the terms for each card, but, I'd like to double check things with experience on this board...having the process in writting on this board makes for a peer reviewed source. Once I get closer to the final due date, then I may call to double check, if they wig out then, no worries, I've already made my $.

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PNC (Both Business & Personal, 12 months, 0% on BT):
It's 12 months from the date of opening the account and not from the first statement or the date of the balance transfer. I applied for the business and personal cards in the month of Feb'07. I was charged a finance fee ($139) for not paying out the balance by the statement date in the month of Feb ' 08. I had done the balance transfer in the first week of March '07 and was expecting the promo rate until the statement date in March.

I called the CSR and asked her to waive the finance charges as I had assumed that the promo rate was for 12 months from the date of transfer. She agreed to waive the fee as a one time courtesy as I had paid out the balance before I called them.

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You might want to add another data point. Is the 0% for BT only or for BT and purchases? This will make a difference with some issuers when it must be paid back.

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Anyone have any reliable data on Discover? Does the end date mean the beginning of the month listed, end of month, or end of statement within the month listed as expiration? They only list month and year of expiration, for example- 4/2008. I realize the safe bet is to pay by the start of the ending month but I wondered if I can get some extra float.

Thanks

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snafu123 said:PNC (Both Business & Personal, 12 months, 0% on BT):
It's 12 months from the date of opening the account and not from the first statement or the date of the balance transfer. I applied for the business and personal cards in the month of Feb'07. I was charged a finance fee ($139) for not paying out the balance by the statement date in the month of Feb ' 08. I had done the balance transfer in the first week of March '07 and was expecting the promo rate until the statement date in March.

I called the CSR and asked her to waive the finance charges as I had assumed that the promo rate was for 12 months from the date of transfer. She agreed to waive the fee as a one time courtesy as I had paid out the balance before I called them.

Hm-m, I sent PNC a secure message asking to tell me the exact date. They told me Mar 30, which is the due by date on my Mar'08 statement (which is my 13th statement on this card). I also spoke with their CSR, she said the same thing. I'll know for sure whether it worked as advertised in a few days ...

Edit: did some archeology -- I BTed on 03/20/2007 (with app approved on 02/14/2007). Here's what card's T&C say about BT: "12 billing cycles from when the Account is opened" ... I'm not sure why they seem to be including (an extra) grace/repayment period for me.

Message edited by: cyberkost on 2008-03-23 21:50:18 CDT
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I got the same answer from PNC CSR, but they charged my interest for that extra month anyway - on personal accounts, but not on biz. Waived it when I called and complained.

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Just to answer my own question about Discover and when to pay off for other's reference. I wrote to Discover CS on their website and this is the response they gave me-

Thank you for your message regarding the balance transfer on your Discover Card Account.

The balance transfer rate of 0.0% will expire on April 2, 2008 and your payment would need to be received by May 1, 2008 to avoid any finance charges. Any balance left on your Account when your statement prints on May 2, 2008 would be accessed finance charges.
We appreciate your business and the time you have taken to contact us today. Thank you for choosing to use Discover Card.

Sincerely,

Ron

I recommend checking with Discover for yourself in each situation but it sounds like the 0% lasts until the payment due date of the promo ending period month's statement, which in my case is listed on my statement is 4/2008.

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My Discover BT promo was the same as aandt1999's. The 0% rate extended until the statement due date of the month when the promo ended. The CSR gave me the correct information.

What a WAMU CSR told me via their secure online messaging system was wrong. They told me a specific date by which the balance had to be paid to avoid any interest, but I was charged interest beginning two weeks prior to that date. When I questioned it, the CSR reminded me that the terms and conditions were provided to me when I opened the card. I brought up the message they sent me but the CSR wasn't interested, and just kept hammering the terms and conditions. I finally stopped trying to justify my position and came right out and asked to have the finance charge removed, and the CSR agreed. Go figure.

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I *think* Discover BT can be paid off on the day before the next statement is printed, even though CSRs advise to pay by due date (of course, you still have to make minimum payment by due date). For me, it's only 2 day difference or so, not worth testing.

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Anyone have a citi experience?

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bump

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I decided to play it safe on all my cards and pay them back pretty much around the date I applied for them. I realize this may cut some of my BT's a month short, but I'm on summer break and want to finish up AOR 2.0 before I start hellish law school 2.0 again. It is simply too much of a pain to try to figure out these due dates. Hopefully others can still work on the list if they have info to share though.

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jfharper said:Anyone have a citi experience?

got a couple of BTs from citi ~3 months ago. they sent me letters telling me the exact date by which i'd have to pay them off to avoid paying interest (i didn't ask them).

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