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I got the IN:NYC card in the mail today with a $20,000 CL. I'm actually surprised considering I also got a $20,000 CL on the Starwood card. Now I'm torn about doing a BT on the IN card and just use the limit I was given. Not sure what to do since I'm leary of a FR at this point and am not sure a 6 month BT is worth it.

Related to AMEX, I still hadn't seen anything on the Gold Skymles card. So I checked the status link again today and noticed that it said "Cancelled". When I clicked for more details, I got the following:
Thank you for your recent application for the Gold Delta SkyMiles® Credit Card from American Express. It is our pleasure to service your request for an American Express card. However, our records indicate that you have recently submitted more than one application for American Express card(s), therefore this request has been cancelled.

Your original application(s) has been reviewed and we are happy to inform you that you were approved! Your new card(s) has been sent to you and, after calling to activate, you may begin using the Card(s) immediately and start enjoying all of the benefits of Cardmembership.

I'm not sure if this means they think I submitted multiple Gold Skymiles applications or just that I submitted multiple AMEX applications. Of course, the latter is true, but I was approved for the other two and I thought I've seen others being approved for more than one personal AMEX (maybe not).

Does anyone think there's a chance I could get an approval for the Skymiles card if I offered to reallocate CL from one of the other AMEX cards? Maybe it's not worth it, but getting those 15k skymiles would put my wife over 25k miles, or enough for a RT US ticket.


A few updates:

I mentioned in the OP that I used CardBenefit.com with a few applications. So far I've received email confirmations for 5 of the 6 applications I was approved for via CardBenefit.

I hadn't heard anything on the US Bank Baylor card and decided to have my wife call and check on the status. She was was told they approved her today with a $21k CL.

Per cyberkost's recommendation, I did a CLI request on the BOA NEA card this morning and was given a "one day to process" response. My wife then received a call this afternoon from a BOA credit underwriter and, after verifying her information, HHI, etc., he said that he could approve her for a CLI to $10k (from $8k) at this point. He commented that the new account, and the fact that she is an AU on my BOA card with a $30k CL factored into his decision. He also noted her/our great credit performance and said she should try another CLI in a few months after she has a good track record with the card.

A new BOA inquiry showed up on TU yesterday. I assume this was for the GA State BOA AMEX card that I haven't heard anything on. I'm not real confident in an approval for this card considering how late the inquiry came, and given the conversation with the credit underwriter from BOA that I mentioned above. I'll probably have my wife call and check on the status tonight or tomorrow.


yeah ... 10K on the NEA was below what I'd anticipated ... did the rep tell your wife *how* the $30K AU card played into the decision? Almost looks as if they counted half of the $30K line toward your wife's exposure with them: 1/2*$30K+10K = $25K -- my wife (similar credit stats) got an IOWA card last summer and CLIed it to $22K easily (not waiting 6 month between CLIs), but last time she tried to go to $27K (just a few days ago) she got shot down for "enough credit with us." Let's hope the GA State card will bring some sweetness into this story.


I was on the phone with her during the conversation. He didn't tell her how it factored in, but he brought it up when he was discussing why he was only able to go to $10k for now. I think it also had to do with the fact that she's a homemaker and all of the income is mine...because he asked her about that. He also asked her what she planned to do with the credit and why she wanted an increase. She told him that we were going to use it to transfer balances from other cards...he liked that idea, but apparently not enough to go more than $10k.


Updates:

- My wife called about the Advanta card to see if she could get a larger line. The CSR told her that the CL she received was based on the information she provided. She ran the information through the system again and came back with the same results and wasn't able to increase the CL. So, we cancelled the card.

- She also called about GA State AMEX and was told it was declined. The CSR referenced the BOA NEA card, but said we'd have to wait for the letter to read the actual reason. Well, the letter arrived today and stated, "unable to approved your request because you do not have a sufficient number of credit references and you do not have sufficient established revolving credit accounts...based on EX report." The weird thing is that my wife was targeted via an application in the mail...oh well.

- The funny thing about the BOA and Chase denials is that my wife received two new pre-approved/pre-qualified offers in the mail yesterday for the Chase Disney and the BOA Platinum Plus cards, both with 0% offers...BOA for 12 mos and Disney for 15 months. I figured what the heck and applied for and was deferred for both. I noticed that the Chase inquiry appeared on EX as CHASE BANK USA, NA and BOA showed up on EQ as FIA CSNA...both appeared as different bank names and pulled from different agencies than the Chase and BOA inquiries from before (as noted in the OP). I'm not holding my breath on either card, but we'll see.

- Lastly, my wife finally called on the Delta Gold Skymiles AMEX and was told that somehow two apps were submitted and both were cancelled. The CSR couldn't resubmit the app and my wife would need to reapply. On one hand, I'm not sure I want another credit pull...on the other hand, it probably won't matter at this point.


Some updates:

As I mentioned above, my wife continues to receive new applications for credit cards, and the ones from Chase are puzzling since they denied both of her initial personal apps. Well, she received the Disney Rewards card in the mail today with a $12k CL and 0% through 8/09...nice surprise and I guess the pull from EX made the difference. She just got another pre-approved offer for a Chase AKC card with 0% BT for 15 months, but I may hold off for now since the chances for approval seem unlikely at this point.

I CLR'd from Discover personal to Discover Biz and United Biz to AMA Biz with no issues. I'm still trying to decide if I want to CLR between the Juniper I Fly and the Bank Atlantic Biz card. I have a Juniper BT check that came with the welcome packet and there's a $20k BT limit with Bank Atlantic...however, the BA offer is 15 months.

My only other planned CLR was from the CitiAA card to another Citi card. I first called the activiation department (per the suggestion in this QS) and was told they don't handle that and I'd need to call customer service. So, I called CitiAA customer service and was told I'd need to talk to the business side. I talked to a Biz CSR and she told me she couldn't CLR because Citi AA was a revolving credit card. I then called personal customer service again and tried to reallocate from Citi AA to the Associated card. The CSR put in the request without any issues; although she did mention the revolving topic again. However, I called back today since it hasn't shown up yet and was told I can't CLR between the Citi AA and Associated cards because they're incompatible. Per AAlison's post in this thread, I called back one more time and thought I'd leave $2k on the CitiAA card; however, I was given the same response, that the two accounts are incompatible. I just looked back at Elleve's thread on the Associated card and it doesn't appear that anyone has been able to reallocate from another Citi card to the Associated card.

I logged onto CardBenefit.com and it shows all of the $ I was expecting ($250) as approved/confirmed.


One more update, on the topic of handling my wife's accounts...

With the exception of my wife talking to a CSR when she calls to activate cards, I'm talking to all CSRs now. I call and tell them that I'm calling on my wife's behalf, they ask to speak to my wife to verify her identity and make sure it's okay to speak to me, and then I take it from there. It's been very easy with no questions asked after the verification and approval with my wife. So far, Bank Atlantic is the only issuer that's offered to authorize me on her account (i.e. authorized to speak, but not receive a card).


ahself said: My only other planned CLR was from the CitiAA card to another Citi card. I first called the activiation department (per the suggestion in this QS) and was told they don't handle that and I'd need to call customer service. So, I called CitiAA customer service and was told I'd need to talk to the business side. I talked to a Biz CSR and she told me she couldn't CLR because Citi AA was a revolving credit card. I then called personal customer service again and tried to reallocate from Citi AA to the Associated card. The CSR put in the request without any issues; although she did mention the revolving topic again. However, I called back today since it hasn't shown up yet and was told I can't CLR between the Citi AA and Associated cards because they're incompatible. Per AAlison's post in this thread, I called back one more time and thought I'd leave $2k on the CitiAA card; however, I was given the same response, that the two accounts are incompatible. I just looked back at Elleve's thread on the Associated card and it doesn't appear that anyone has been able to reallocate from another Citi card to the Associated card.
ahself, You might try converting your CitiAA Platinum World card to the CitiAA Bronze card, which doesn't have the "revolving" or no-pre-set limit feature. Then try re-allocating the Bronze card to either your Biz or Associated cards. I think scott1961 & others(?) were able to do something similar with the CitiHilton card which also has the same "revolving" issue.


My wife received the BoA Platinum Plus card in the mail. It was very surprising since they pulled EQ, where she had several inquiries, and BoA already told us she'd reached her max CL on the NEA card. I guess the fact that she was targeted made a difference.

I think I'm going to go ahead and take her off my BoA card as an AU. I'm assuming that'll allow me to hit the BoA CLI (on crack) button to boost both of her cards.

I guess we're done with new cards for her...all approvals and declines are in. Total new credit is $246,500.

While she hasn't received any TYPs yet, she has received the 25k United miles and 10k Starwood points.

I've already completed several BTs and am in the middle of several more. Total BT money from this WOR is planned to be ~$140k. I should be able to keep all cards at 89% utilization or below and total personal utilization below 50%...at least that's the plan.


Looks like Mrs. ahself is not doing bad at all with her AOR . How much of the projected $140K is going to come from business cards?


For a split-second the title made my mind wander to what is happening in Texas with the polygamists


cyberkost said: Looks like Mrs. ahself is not doing bad at all with her AOR . How much of the projected $140K is going to come from business cards?

About half. The only biz cards I'm not using for BTs are the United and SPG, and I reallocated all but $1k from the United to the American Medical Association card.


A few more rewards posted - All 45k TYPs posted, each 15k bonus after the statement closed for each card. Also, the 25k AA miles bonus posted.

I mentioned before that I was planning on using my wife's BT offers to pay off some of my balances from my A0R, which is wrapping up...and I did this with a few of her cards.

I had an interesting conversation with a Citi rep about credit balances. I asked the question because I wasn't sure if a BT would post in time to avoid the higher interest rate on one of my cards and I asked about having a credit balance if I paid off the card and the BT payment hit as well. She said that it's no problem and that I would be transferred to another department to request the balance via a check, which I knew. In addition, she also said that $4k was the magic number...if the balance was $4k or more, an additional review would occur to make sure the balance was legit...under $4k and the check would be processed with no issues. I hadn't seen that threshold mentioned elsewhere and thought it was interesting.

I tried a BT from her Bank Atlantic Business card online and after a week of seeing the Pending status, I sent a secured email to see what was up. I got a response back that I hadn't provided enough information and it was denied. So, I called and the CSR couldn't see that I left anything out. Regardless, I asked her to process it. However, even though I was added as someone authorized to speak on my wife's account, the CSR said that only my wife could request the BT. So, I got my wife on the phone and she did it with no problems (with a little help from me on the side).

I also did two BTs from the US Bank Baylor card. I called up, had my wife verify her identity and then I was able to request both BTs. The CSR confirmed the 0% APR and no BT fees.

Interestingly enough, my wife received another targeted offer for a Delta Gold Skymiles card. You can't use the offer code online, but I may have her take them up on it via phone.

Also, I'm putting all of this BT money into an Alliant CU savings account. I think I'm going to take advantage of the Citi 40k TYPs bank accounts offer too.


The Bank Atlantic BT I initiated on 4/15 completed, including payment posting to my CitiBiz PP card, on 4/17...pretty fast.

On the other hand, the Baylor BTs show as processed, including posting the balance to the Baylor card, but I was told it could take 10-14 days for them to hit the receiving accounts...unlike, BA, Discover and others, US Bank mails the payments and it takes longer to complete.

I'm now reconsidering signing up for the Citi 40k TYPs bank account offer considering stook's (and others') Citi A/A experience. I'd rather not give Citi a reason to look at my wife's accounts and I've read that they pull your report when setting up the bank accounts. I hate losing out on the 40k TYPs, but I'm not sure it's worth having the accounts closed.

Related to that, I haven't performed any BTs with her CitiBiz, CitiBiz PP or CitiProf cards. On one hand, I'm not sure I want to do anything else with the Citi cards...but on the other hand, I've already made the purchases and received the TYPs for all three. Any reason I shouldn't just go ahead with the BTs, knowing that the terms will still be good even if they close the accounts?


Any reason I shouldn't just go ahead with the BTs, knowing that the terms will still be good even if they close the accounts?ahself said: Text

I'd do it.


ahself said: Any reason I shouldn't just go ahead with the BTs, knowing that the terms will still be good even if they close the accounts?
We don't yet know if acct close = blacklist.

That aside, probably only depends on whether you care about the CL and/or the possibility of adverse action from other issuers (due to the Citi Professional being visible on the CR).


My wife received a particularly juicy CC offer in the mail yesterday. It's for the Chase Visa Platinum Card, 0% on purchases and BTs until 9/2009, no annual fee and no BT fee.

While I know she has several inquiries, particularly on EQ, it appears the Chase pre-approved offers (e.g. Disney) pull EX for us (did for both me and my wife), where she only has 3 inquiries. Besides, it says she's pre-approved (not pre-qualified, pre-screened, etc.).

I know we're only a little over a month beyond her A0R, but is there any reason why I shouldn't go for this?


Might be worthwhile. Might also be worth locking up EQ to force them over to TU or EX (assuming her TU/EX is in better shape - I haven't gone through the summary yet). Worth knowing who they tend to pull in your state.


Go.


It appears that Chase pulls EQ in my state, GA. However, it also appears that for pre-approved offers, they pull EX...or that could've just been the case with the Disney card. So, I can either bump the EQ or the EX will only be her 4th inquiry. Either way, I'll know in a day or so as I plan on going ahead with the offer since she was "pre-approved" and the terms are very good.

RE: the Baylor BTs mentioned above - Even though I was told the payments would be mailed and it could take 10-14 days, I found out today that both payments were received and credited on 4/18...also pretty fast.


ahself said: It appears that Chase pulls EQ in my state, GA.
I got that card via a parallel preapproved offer (different time period - they just move the date up on future offers) and am also in GA. They will pull EQ. If you go for a CLI on the card after issue they will also hard pull EQ (unless you can get someone with a clue - I didn't).

ETA: I got my card in December. $6K CL. CLI-ed it up to $13K with a second hard pull at activation. They wouldn't go higher.


Did you decide whether to pull the trigger on the Chase Platinum? Just curious.


swishyx said: Did you decide whether to pull the trigger on the Chase Platinum? Just curious.

Yes, I pulled the trigger...couldn't resist those terms. I put a BT request on the app, but I got a deferred (in 30 days) response. I guess we'll see.

Also, as you said, they pulled EQ. However, it was pulled as First USA vs. Chase Bank USA (like the Disney card).


ahself said: Also, as you said, they pulled EQ. However, it was pulled as First USA vs. Chase Bank USA (like the Disney card).
Same here. I wonder if the Platinum was part of the First USA acquisition, and the Disney is something Chase had on their own.

First USA also showed up for my hard pull CLI at activation.

You know, I shredded one of those targeted Disney offers recently. Probably should have kept it. Maybe I killed it over the interest rate. Grrr.


How long does your bank place a hold on your funds? Mine is holding it for like 5-10 business days for anything over 5k. I'm about to deposit a 46k check from Chase...


Mikawl said: How long does your bank place a hold on your funds? Mine is holding it for like 5-10 business days for anything over 5k. I'm about to deposit a 46k check from Chase...

I use BofA and they don't place any holds on my funds, regardless of how large the check is, as long as I deposit the checks via the ATM. I learned from my A0R last year that when I made a deposit with a teller, a 5-10 day hold was placed on the deposit...however, I only did that once. I used the ATM for all of the rest of the BT checks from that A0R and this one, and they have posted the same or next business day (depending on when I make the deposit).

However, based on other A0R threads I've read where this topic comes up, I know that other factors like check size, bank you're dealing with, history/relationship with the bank, etc., seem to have an impact as well.


A few updates:

I decided to hold off on the remaining Citi BTs for now. I figured that, since they are 12 months from the BT, then I have a while to take advantage of them. I'm trying to bump off inquiries and may CLI once I have the cards for 6 months.

To help with B*, in addition to TC, I signed up for CreditSecure (but can't do daily pulls for 30 days), Chase ID Protection and Credit Karma. I tried for National City Identity Protect but didn't receive anything and may be blacklisted from dealpass.

My wife's TC scores continue to drop...started at (EQ,EX,TU) 752 760 776, and are now at 663 691 694, with all but the Baylor BT showing on EX. Her EX score dipped to 676 yesterday, but shot up a little today with the SGP and IN:NYC AMEX cards finally showing.


NCIP may yet respond. Took a few days for mine to go through.


swishyx said: NCIP may yet respond. Took a few days for mine to go through.

Coincidentally, I received the NCIP letter in the mail today, including the membership ID. However, when I try to log in I get an error code, EC7010, and instructions to contact membership services. I'll probably do that, but I'm not counting on getting access.

Also, in the mail today was my approval letter for the Chase Platinum card I mentioned a few posts above...the actual card also arrived as well. It came with a credit line of (drum roll please) $500. As I mentioned, I put a BT on the app (of $13k) and the letter stated that they couldn't process my BT request "because my credit profile does not support the balance transfer amount requested." However, they were able to transfer a portion, $300...good thing there was no BT fee. I guess a CLI request probably isn't worth it at this point.


Wow. Sorry about the bad luck on both fronts.


Interesting update on my TU inquiries as 3 dropped off in the last 3 days. The interesting thing is that they fell off after only 45-50 pulls of my TU report (specifically on the 45th, 48th and 50th pulls).


I haven't provided an update in a while, mainly because I'm in maintenance mode, but here are a few.

The last of the TU inquiries fell off...the fourth, fifth and sixth inquiries fell off with the 54th, 63rd and 69th pulls respectively. In addition to TC, I signed up for Chase ID Protection and Credit Karma to help with b*. I'm also signed up for CreditSecure, but still in the trial phase where I can't pull daily.

I received the last of the rewards I was expecting, the 10k SPG points from the personal card. Even though I made the purchases on the same day, the points for the personal card came almost a month after those for the biz card and almost two months after I made the purchase.

I decided to sign my wife up for the Fidelity 25k AA miles bonus to see if I could get her the miles even though I got them for myself last year (and the terms state one per household). Good news...4 days after I transferred in the initial $10k, she received the 15k miles in her AA account.


Alright, go on Fidelity.

If you transfer in the other amount ($40k), even if you have to do it in batches, even if you have to transfer money out then in you'll probably get the last 10k miles.


Right, that's what I read in the Fidelity thread as well, i.e. being able to transfer in and out to reach the $50k.


where are you putting your BT money?


Zolar said: where are you putting your BT money?

In an Alliant savings account. FW thread




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