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Argyll said:Yes, deposit Federal deposit insurance for both banks and credit unions has been raised to $250,000 per account. I have mixed feelings about this as it solves no underlying problem. In actual practice, so far the FDIC has in effect insured all deposits because it has been able to do so.

Increasing insurance also means the FDIC will raise premiums banks have to pay and banks may go ahead and make risky loans as deposits are covered by the government.

Well, making enough loans that the bank fails/goes under still has the effect of wiping out your stockholders' equity (making their investment worthless) and eliminating most of the top-level jobs. A fairly powerful incentive to perform as advertised.


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I had the same problem happen again today. I scheduled a one-time transfer, but when I look it up on the scheduled transfers page, it says Monthly, and the transfer can't be edited or cancelled. I called again to complain, and spent an hour on the phone with them. They were all very nice, but I don't think that they have any interest in identifying or fixing the problem. I'd like to hear if this has happened to anybody besides me.

bluechalk said:If you are planning to do a transfer to Alliant this weekend, beware. I just had a strange problem on the website. I scheduled an external transfer for a single (one-time) transfer, to Alliant for 9/14/2008. But when I look at the scheduled transfer page, it says "Monthly 0000133636 left". This is clearly wrong. I tried to cancel via the "cancel" link. It doesn't complain, but the transaction won't go away. When I click on the institution name, which is supposed to let you edit the transaction, I get logged out. I tried using a different browser and got identical results.

I tried calling customer service. They were very nice, but clueless. They said that I have to call back on Monday to get this resolved.

Their ACH transfer system seems to be broken. At least its showing the correct dollar amount for the transfer, but at this point I don't have a lot of faith that its going to work as it says. I hope that I can get this fixed before a month goes by.



UPDATE: The transfer went through correctly on Monday and disappeared from the scheduled transfer list, just like it should have for a one time transfer. Strangely enough, the transaction number is 0000133636. I called again on Monday and they are going to report the problem to their IT people.


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I push/pull transfers from another institution because they are faster.


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Is ACH still free? Maybe I'm reading this wrong but their fee schedule shows: Manually Paid Checks and ACH Items . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (effective 5/1/08) $29


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The $29 fee is for ACH transactions initiated at other institutions that have an incorrect trans code. For instance, withdrawals from your share account must have a trans code of 37. A full list of codes is here. I had this problem with setting up an payment to my FIA credit card from the FIA website. They gave two choices: Checking Account and Money Market Account. I chose the latter, assuming that they would send a trans code of 37. But they sent the withdrawal to Alliant with a 27 trans code instead. Apparently the choice of Checking or Money Market has no effect. I called FIA, and they could not explain.

In any case, I got a letter from Alliant a few days later informing me of the problem. They processed the withdrawal manually but waived the $29 fee as a courtesy.

Message edited by: bluechalk on 2008-10-08 09:19:15 CDT
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bluechalk said:The $29 fee is for ACH transactions initiated at other institutions that have an incorrect trans code. For instance, withdrawals from your share account must have a trans code of 37. A full list of codes is here. I had this problem with setting up an payment to my FIA credit card from the FIA website. They gave two choices: Checking Account and Money Market Account. I chose the latter, assuming that they would send a trans code of 37. But they sent the withdrawal to Alliant with a 27 trans code instead. Apparently the choice of Checking or Money Market has no effect. I called FIA, and they could not explain.

In any case, I got a letter from Alliant a few days later informing me of the problem. They processed the withdrawal manually but waived the $29 fee as a courtesy.

I had these same issues as well until an Alliant CSR pointed out an alternate account number to me. Log in, go to Additional Features and then Instructions for Initiating Electronic Transactions. Use the second, longer account number. No problems since I used that one.


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Numerkins: I did use the long (14 digit) account number when I got the letter from Alliant about the wrong trans code.

Message edited by: bluechalk on 2008-10-08 12:36:01 CDT
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Oh that's wierd. I had problems with Chase and BoA cards pulling from Alliant until I used the long number.


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I too used the long, 14 digit, number and linked my ACU savings to Wachovia, BofA, and Citi. No problems at all so far and I've moved money in and out of all three linked accounts.


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i just recently joined Alliant. Thanks to all who contributed & posted PTA procedures!


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Gentlemen, pls help me.

I want to open an a/c for my kids, age 10

Should it better be a Kidz Club a/c with Alliant or similar to what you & I have (online savings a/c)?

Who pays taxes on the interest earned on the Kidz a/c?

Should I better open a separate supplementary a/c within my a/c instead of opening a/cs in the Kid's name?


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If my average daily balance over the 31 day month of October is less than $100 (over $100 for most of the month but down to $5 for a few days) will I earn the 3.69%rate for October?

Anyone have any real life experience with this? I get conflicting answers from reps. Thx


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zjts said:If my average daily balance over the 31 day month of October is less than $100 (over $100 for most of the month but down to $5 for a few days) will I earn the 3.69%rate for October?

Anyone have any real life experience with this? I get conflicting answers from reps. Thx

From Alliant Website Disclaimer.

The October Savings and IRA Dividend declared 09/18/08 provides a Dividend Rate of 3.69% - Compounded Annual Percentage Yield of 3.75% APY. Dividends are paid on the last day of the month to accountholders who have maintained an average daily balance of $100 or more in Savings or IRA.

so the answer to your question is NO.


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I asked the banker at Citibank how average daily balance is calculated. He responded that the formula for determining how much interest would be paid at the end of the month if money is coming in and out of the account during the cycle would be too complex to figure out by using a calculator. I wish I knew how to determine average daily balance. I hate not even being able to even estimate my monthly interest. Does anyone know a simple way to calculate for example this senario: $9000 at start of cycle, withdraw $1800 to pay off a credit card, three days later add 800 to account ? Thanks for your attention.

Message edited by: mrvirgo on 2008-10-16 14:00:47 CDT
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A calculator would take too long but Excel should do the job!

Using your example, I assume 10/1/08 is start of your cycle and the month of October is your entire cycle. Assume, on 10/3/08, you took out $1,800 to pay off a credit card. Three days later (10/6/08), you added $800 to your account. Further assume there're no activities for the remainder of October.

Then, either using the AVERAGE function or the SUM function and divide the total by the number of days in the cycle (31 in this example), you should be able to get $7,987.10 (the Average Daily Balance for the month of October).

9,000.00 1-Oct
9,000.00 2-Oct
7,200.00 3-Oct
7,200.00 4-Oct
7,200.00 5-Oct
8,000.00 6-Oct
8,000.00 7-Oct
8,000.00 8-Oct
8,000.00 9-Oct
8,000.00 10-Oct
8,000.00 11-Oct
8,000.00 12-Oct
8,000.00 13-Oct
8,000.00 14-Oct
8,000.00 15-Oct
8,000.00 16-Oct
8,000.00 17-Oct
8,000.00 18-Oct
8,000.00 19-Oct
8,000.00 20-Oct
8,000.00 21-Oct
8,000.00 22-Oct
8,000.00 23-Oct
8,000.00 24-Oct
8,000.00 25-Oct
8,000.00 26-Oct
8,000.00 27-Oct
8,000.00 28-Oct
8,000.00 29-Oct
8,000.00 30-Oct
8,000.00 31-Oct

7,987.10


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Wow! Thanks Wesleman. I really appreciate your answer.


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I see the following line in the quick summary:

"ONLY 6 electronic (ACH) transfers IN/OUT of the account per calender month for FREE. $29 fee per transaction after that."

That doesn't sound right to me.

I can find the transfer out limit, but not a limit on transfers in.

I've never seen a limit on the number of deposits before anywhere.

I'm hesitant to edit the QS, in case I'm fulla crap.


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I use to have an account with Alliant...no, there is no restrictions on the number of transfers in, as far as being free....but it's six going out, just like any other Savings or Money Market Account (federal law)....


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craig10x said:I use to have an account with Alliant...no, there is no restrictions on the number of transfers in, as far as being free....but it's six going out, just like any other Savings or Money Market Account (federal law)....

You love 'em and leave 'em, eh?


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Argyll said:craig10x said:I use to have an account with Alliant...no, there is no restrictions on the number of transfers in, as far as being free....but it's six going out, just like any other Savings or Money Market Account (federal law)....

You love 'em and leave 'em, eh?

Still love them...but as i previously mentioned...while others keep expanding the number of accounts they have, i decided to go the opposite route...trim to the bare bones...It's just CHASE (main day to day banking) CNB Bank Direct (High yield 4% apy account linked to Chase) and E Trade for Brokerage...and that is it!

However, that doesn't change my opinion of Alliant..excellent rate...excellent free atm coverage and excellent customer service.....highly recommend them!


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