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I recently found out that my wife is cheating on me and is contemplating divorce.
SOME INFO:
We have been married more than 15 years and have young kids.
We do NOT live in a community property state.
She is unaware that I know about this.

I have been on this site for years chasing after every finance deal to improve our life,
and now I am faced with complete emotional and financial ruin from someone that I love.
Everything I have accomplished will be lost and I know that it never ends good for husbands;
I would lose ~70% of my income for the next 10 to 15 years based upon some research I did.
This is not even considering the astronomical attorney fees that would mount.

I am at a complete loss of what to do, I want to confront her but she is in a different "place"
and I'm certain that would just hasten my demise and I would lose the slight edge that I have.
I am not even a real person to her anymore, they refer to me as "him", "he", "kids father", etc.
One of the most disturbing things is that she has turned my 12 year old against me, spying on me,
and agreeing with whatever she does, wants.

I would sincerely appreciate any constructive advice on what I should be doing, and I know that
many will state "go to a lawyer", but that is obvious and before I even consider going down that road
I would like get any feedback with others that are familiar in this area.

I have always turned to this board to find and offer advice, but never factored this situation in to
any planning.(Please understand it is necessary for me to post as a "new" member.)

I don't even know if I have the strength, will, etc. to go on in life after being betrayed like this,
as I don't even want a divorce and would never agree to give her one any way.

My apologies if this sounds like a bad soap opera, but I am literally in tears as I write this and it's
all true.

Thank you for reading.

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Message edited by: 1ofushere on 2008-03-23 17:26:40 CDT
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Got talk to a few attorneys in your area.

Have you considered marital counseling?

Message edited by: ecjjones on 2008-03-20 12:12:03 CDT
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pull a tony soprano and talk to all the good divorce lawyers to screw her selection over

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How is this related to general finance that may fatten the wallet of this community? It's not even finance related in general!

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Start a coin collection hobby. Place half of everything you buy with a "Friend" you can trust. Don't save any receipts.

Start gambling. Goto the casino and start getting cash advances for your gambling habit.

Start selling everything you can around the house for cash, I mean start donating all your spring cleaning junk to Goodwill.

Cash is untraceable. Get as much as you can out now.

Good Luck and don't skimp on the attorney. You can start documenting her infidelity, but in most states, that only provides a cause for the divorce, but has no bearing on the divorce settlement.

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Ouch, sorry dude. It's all too familiar story.

Better to talk to a local lawyer and friends.

You do know you are going to get bad advice from some 17 yo high school student, right?

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DEVASTATED said:I don't even know if I have the strength, will, etc. to go on in life after being betrayed like this,
as I don't even want a divorce and would never agree to give her one any way.

Hey man, I'm no counselor, but you're talking about a permanent solution to a temporary problem. I know things seem bleak right now, but don't do that to your kids and family. Hang in there and you'll come out OK.

Message edited by: ceobeaver on 2008-03-20 12:19:42 CDT
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dmlavigne1 said:How is this related to general finance that may fatten the wallet of this community? It's not even finance related in general!

Don't be an f'ing idiot. He's asking for some financial advice given his situation. Others here may have experience to share. You don't, so stfu.

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There is a whole slew of divorce planning websites for men that should help you with the legal and financial aspects. Google for those.

Also, you mention that you are at risk for depression. This is not a time to be off your game. Get counseling for yourself.

Good luck, and keep us posted.

Message edited by: lorcha on 2008-03-20 12:25:29 CDT
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parmenides said:dmlavigne1 said:How is this related to general finance that may fatten the wallet of this community? It's not even finance related in general!

Don't be an f'ing idiot. He's asking for some financial advice given his situation. Others here may have experience to share. You don't, so stfu.

You STFU, he didn't even ask for anything, it was a general personal complaint.

And the other posters suggesting fraud in order to hide assets should be RED (which would be consistant according to other posts).

There are 2 sides to every marriage failure, to which we only have one side. But reflecting on my last sentence, who cares, this is a finance board not Oprah!!

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I would not give many personal details on the internet. I am sure you probably already gave enough info away so anyone close to you can figure it out. You need to hire a lawyer and get advise from him. Do some reading on the internet but stop posting info. I know it must be hard but find someone local you trust to listen to you and talk, hire a professional to help you through this before it goes phycho bad or something.

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My understanding is that there can be huge differences in divorce outcomes based on certain factors. Cheating on a spouse is a huge one.
Hire a private I and get documentation (video). This will likely be a very nasty fight with accusations of all kinds of crap, verbal abuse, physical abuse, mental abuse. If you have documentation she's a cheater and liar, you'll be much better off.
Best of luck.

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dmlavigne1 said:.....And the other posters suggesting fraud in order to hide assets should be RED (which would be consistant according to other posts).....

While I fully agree with you, unfortunately our legal system is pretty FUBARed right now. He's is going to get screwed at least four times in this ordeal; Once by the cheating wife, once by the lawyer, once by the legal system if the wife doesn't cooperate with a custody agreement, and again by the wife's lawyer as he will most likely end up paying for that too. For somone who in principle has done nothing wrong yet (of course we don't know both sides of the story), he's going to need a lot of lubricant.

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First of all, I'm sorry. That sucks.

This may be small potatoes, but since you "don't know" start spending money on you on things you need or want now or in the near future. For example, when the time comes, you may lose a good % of every dollar you have in savings, but no judge is going to grant her half of your shoes, clothes, ipod, laptop, Xbox, iphone, etc. so now is the time to deplete savings and replenish your wardrobe, your smaller personal electronics, etc.

You may also want to consider 529 plans for the kids with you as custodian. The likelihood of a judge granting half of that to her is less than if the same money is in CDs, savings, or even retirement. Besdies, wouldn't you rather money go to your kids rather than her and her new flame?

Try not to hold it against the 12 yr old. At that age, they have a love of drama and your wife is feeding it. Maybe you could feed it too, but more constructively. I really doubt your child is really turning against you, she is playing along with mom and is too immature to see how it affects you (I'm sorry, I'm not calling your child immature, I just mean that 12 yr olds are less mature than adults). Also, your wife is probably doing this hoping you will react badly towards the 12 yr old, which could look bad for you down the road. Don't fall for it.

Oh, also, would it be considered hiding assets if the OP starts buying gift cards? I know if this were me, I could easily drain a $10k savings account over the course of a few months and have GCs to every store I shop at normally, like every grocery store and gas station in town, Wal-Mart, Target, etc. Then after the divorce, OP can replenish his bank accounts because his expenses will be negligible if he's paying for all his gas, groceries, and basic needs with GCs.

Message edited by: berlinsmommy on 2008-03-20 12:36:15 CDT
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you may have the ability to protect yourself on financial side of this and help is readliy available for that

it is the emotional side that you will need to make the effort on to get assistance --- your buddies aren't going to tell you to see a priest, rabbi, or therapist

I am not saying you need these --- but this the toughest side to figure out

your kids need to come first here --- you will gain power once you get yourself focused right

aloha

Message edited by: germanpope on 2008-03-20 12:31:25 CDT
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talljay said:My understanding is that there can be huge differences in divorce outcomes based on certain factors. Cheating on a spouse is a huge one.
Hire a private I and get documentation (video). This will likely be a very nasty fight with accusations of all kinds of crap, verbal abuse, physical abuse, mental abuse. If you have documentation she's a cheater and liar, you'll be much better off.
Best of luck.

First you need to find out what your State laws are, If it's no fault then nothing matters. You could have pictures of your wife with her BF at your own wedding and it wont matter, at least it didn't for me

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talljay said:My understanding is that there can be huge differences in divorce outcomes based on certain factors. Cheating on a spouse is a huge one.Most (all now?) states are "no-fault" divorce states, which means it shouldn't affect the divorce terms.

It certainly can affect the child custody arrangement, however, and by extension, child support.

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All I can offer advise on is what I have seen from my co-workers' divorces:
1. Try to get custody of the kids. You not only save on the child support, it will also give you 'leverage' in future negotiations after the divorce.
2. Try to get/negotiate as much as you can soon after confronting her with her infidelity. She will be in an 'apologetic' mode and more willing to concede.

Good luck.

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I really have no idea about this stuff (I'm 20) but some advice I'd recommend is don't do anything you'll regret. Your enemy (for lack of better words) is your wife, not your children. Don't do anything that'll make them hate you. You are the victim, but as you've said, your 12 year old is her spy and she's the one at fault. Tread carefully and make sure your kids have no cause for resentment these next couple months. You don't want your kids testifying against you.

Again, I'm not saying don't do anything. On the contrary, definitely DO SOMETHING. Just make sure you think before you act.

I'm not sure what her feelings for you are at this point, but if she does still care about you in some way and just wants to move on, maybe you can play off her guilt? If you were to get a financial raping, I'd think she'd be a little more lenient if she felt bad about what she's doing.

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