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Regarding wills, assuming that I make my wife the sole beneficiary of retirement accounts and life insurance, does that become part of the estate or is the estate considered the value BEFORE those payouts? In other words if I wanted to leave 10% of my estate to my children if I should die, are the retirement and life insurance payouts to my wife considered to be part of the estate? What about home equity?

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Depends how you specify beneficiary and title property

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What did your estate planning lawyer tell you?

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SimpleMoney said:What did your estate planning lawyer tell you?

No lawyer, doing legalzoom.com

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barrykai said:SimpleMoney said:What did your estate planning lawyer tell you?

No lawyer, doing legalzoom.com

Sounds like a good way to guarantee your widowed wife will owe as much taxes as possible after your death.

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Remember, there is a difference between probate estate (how property is passed to beneficiaries) and taxable estate (how much will go to the gov't).

You should probably drop by the library (I think legal is 341?) and find some books on estate planning. I like the Nolo Press books.

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I agree w/ the idea to ask your estate attorney since sometimes legal things don't agree w/ what ordinary people like us think.
Also agree w/ the fact that "estate" is defined differently for different purposes.

If i had to guess, i would think that since the will is handling the probate estate, and since your retirement acct and insurance
are not going through probate if you name your wife as beneficiary, that they would not be included in your "estate".
Depending on how your house is titled it may or may not go through probate---if in jt tenancy, it probably doesn't so
might not be part of estate either. If it does go through probate, the total value of the house (not just the equity) might be
considered as part of the probate estate.

For federal estate tax purposes, all of your assets would be considered part of the estate though you would get to deduct
the value of the assets given to your spouse upon your death.

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It is part of your estate but it will go directly to beneficiaries. This is a great way to avoid probate.

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barrykai said:Regarding wills, assuming that I make my wife the sole beneficiary of retirement accounts and life insurance, does that become part of the estate or is the estate considered the value BEFORE those payouts? In other words if I wanted to leave 10% of my estate to my children if I should die, are the retirement and life insurance payouts to my wife considered to be part of the estate? What about home equity?
My ex-wife didn't have a Will - she had a WON'T! "That bastard ex-husband of mine will NOT inherit any of my money. That son-of-a-bitch WON'T receive any life insurance payouts. And that evil-doin', FW-readin', m&#$*@ - f#%^@* WON'T get any piece of this friggin' trailer I'm leaving behind.

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Most people would be better off with living trust and pour-over-will instead of regular last will. Much easier to avoid probate, proceedings are private, you don't get hassle of people possibly contesting your will (especially from people who you shaft in the will).

It's a bit more work to setup the trust but it could be worth a lot depending on your estate.

And if you DIY, at least have whatever documents you come up with reviewed by a real estate lawyer. We got a free 1 hr consulation ourselves which was basically spent in the lawyer reviewing what we had done using self-help books. He made a couple of comments here and there but also corrected one significant omission so even if consult has a fee, it's better to do your homework, have an expert review it than having an essentially useless and possibly costly piece of paper you rely on.

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