Thx to FWF for inspiring a very small and experimental tiny-AOR last year that worked out *very* well. Time to move to the next phase.
Goals:
- Diversify personal credit for the day that AMEX (current primary) takes adverse action
- Obtain Citi cards from 2 credit "buckets" outside of what I'm stuck in now
- Obtain Citi cards with 0% that runs 12 mos from BT within 1st 12 mos, to use next year
- Obtain sufficient business CL to comfortably bury maybe $15K-$25K at 0%
- Increase cushion for util% by adding new CL
Questions:
- I am in the land of Equifax and expect Citi (if not others) to choke mid-AOR due to the inquiry pile-on. Would like suggestions on what order to do things in.
- Very interested in confirm/deny on whether the Citi apps I'm planning are in different CL "buckets" than the three cards I have (Professional, Sears MC, CitiBusiness). I suspect that the Professional and Sears MC are in one bucket, and the CitiBusiness is in another.
- What would you toss, what would you keep, what would you add?
- Does the Discover Business card report to the personal CR or not? Comments in threads suggest that the reps say it does, but people who actually have the card do not see it on their personal CR.
Inputs:
FICOs are around 750 on TU (2 inqs, 3/08) and EX (8 inqs, several are mortgage, most recent 10/17/07). EQ is at 717, 1 inq, within last 6 months.
Personal utilization is 11.5% (ish).
6 new accounts opened in 2nd half of 2007.
Average age 3 years 4 mos (EQ).
Researched who will pull what and inquiry sensitivities at FW and CreditBoards (incl CreditPulls DB).
Existing CL:
Mortgage, $340K-ish
Chase Visa Platinum, $13000 CL/$1286 BAL (no CLI available)
CitiFinancial Retail (store card), $25000 CL/$7078 BAL (@ 0% thru 5/08)
GE Money Net Rewards Visa, $3500 CL/$0 BAL (no CLI available)
Sears (Citi) MC, $10000 CL/$2674 BAL (@ 0% thru 5/09, no CLI available)
GEMB Relax The Back (store card), $25000 CL/$8829 BAL (@ 0% through 11/08)
GEMB BrandSmart MC, $25000 CL/$0 BAL (no soft CLI available)
BofA AMEX, $25000 CL/$4071 BAL (@ 1% thru 12/08) (no CLI available)
CitiProfessional MC, $1500 CL/$0 BAL (no CLI available - "at maximum")
Home Depot (store card), $15000 CL/$ 600 BAL (@ 0% thru 9/08)
Delta Skymiles Platinum AMEX (primary use card) $24900 CL/$181 BAL
AMEX Green, no limit/$0 BAL
BofA AAA Visa (secondary use card), $27800 CL/$948 BAL (no CLI available)
Capital One MC, $5400 CL/$0 BAL (no CLI available)
BofA Power Rewards Platinum Plus Business Visa #1, $17000 CL/$0 BAL (2.9% through 1/09 offer)
BofA Power Rewards Platinum Plus Business Visa #2, $27000 CL/$8800 BAL (@ 0% through 6/08)
AMEX SimplyCash Business, $30000 CL/$6100 BAL
CitiBusiness MC, $16100 CL/$13700 BAL (no CLI available)
Personal CL: $201,100
Bus CL: $90,100
Tot CL: $291,200
Personal w/o store cards: $136,100
Tot w/o store cards: $226,200
Targeted cards & expected inquiries in planned order of application:
BUS: BankAtlantic (Juniper) Rewards Business Card 0% for 15 mo $75 capped - TU
PER: Baylor Alumni Visa Platinum 0% 12 mo for BT with app no fee - TU **Consolidate personal balances here for higher CL**
PER: BofA NEA WorldPoints AMEX 0% 12 mo $30 BT capped - EX
PER: Discover More targeted 0% for life (rec'd offer in the mail 4/12) $75 BT capped, make min 2 purch/mo starting in Jan 09 - EX
BUS: M&T (Elan) Business 0% 6 mo for BT with app only no fee - EQ, sensitivity unknown **Consolidate business balances here for higher CL**
BUS: CitiBusiness with 15K TY points - copy the URL at the end of this link if it doesn't work from FWF 0% 12 mo from first BT no fee - EQ, inquiry sensitive (unconfirmed)
PER: Citi Associates Bank Platinum Visa 0% 12 mo from first BT no fee - EQ, inquiry sensitive
PER: Citi Home Rebate 0% 12 mo from first BT 3% fee uncapped - EQ, inquiry sensitive - wow I may use the rebates!
-- FREEZE Equifax HERE --
BUS: Chase Business Platinum Visa 0% 12 mo $99 BT capped - frozen EQ, should roll to TU, "less sensitive"
PER: National City Lifespring Health Everyday Rewards Visa Platinum 0% 12 mo no fee - TU. 1 instance of EQ/TU dual pull in Creditpulls DB, so doing this after the EQ freeze.
PER: Juniper IFly Visa 0% 12 mo $50 BT capped - TU ** added after other apps done**
-- FREEZE TransUnion HERE --
-- Maybe freeze Experian --
Scratched specifically due to Citi adverse action tendencies coming to light:
PER: Citi AT&T Platinum 0% 12 mo from first BT 3% fee uncapped - EQ, inquiry sensitive (should I expect decline here due to app count?)
Scratched for other reasons:
PER: WAMU Platinum mail-targeted offer, wasn't 0% on BT, it was 0% on purchases. Ixnayed!
PER: Discover More non-targeted offer (in favor of targeted offer), 0% until May 09 $75 BT cap
BUS: US Bank Business (Select Rewards?) 0% 6 mo for BT with app only 3% uncapped BT (ick)
BUS: Bank of America Business Power Rewards Plus, online offer at signout, 0% 9 mos BT 3% uncapped - EX soft. Offer went away.
PER: Linux Fund (US Bank) Visa Platinum Personal 0% 12 mo for BT with app only $75 capped, dumped in favor of Baylor
PER: Citi Dividend Platinum Select 0% 12 mo from first BT 3% fee uncapped, dumped in favor of Citi Home Rebate
BUS: Chase Professional 0% 6 mo $75 BT capped, dumped in favor of Chase Business
PER: BofA NEA Platinum Plus Visa 0% 12 mo $30 BT capped, dumped in favor of NEA AMEX - the Visa allows app to be considered for a different card with a higher interest rate.
BUS: Discover Business 0% til May 09 $75 BT capped - kicked out mid-AOR due to twitchiness over personal Discover app, and this post.
Other items:
- 4/13/08, Requested CLI on both BofA personal cards (soft inq expected), got 5-7 bus day msgs. Both cards were CLI-ed in Jan. 4/14, both declined.
- Ixnay the Home Depot $600 balance (though due to statement cut date, this is probably post-AOR activity).
All feedback welcome.
Shout outs:
To Glitch99 & doerrb for very patient Q&A last year.
To win333 for inspiring new trains of thought.
To in-thread helpers: peteypablo, win333, downhillskier, dougneb, hair, djspray, ahself, cyberkost, Rorer714.
Thanks for your AORs, used them for reference - EugeneV, stook2001, win333, ahself, Venturion, SecondCor521, robertw477, Brushwood, LordEcount, cashmonkey, jevon90
Creators of crucial threads - lhendricks92 (US Bank), stook2001 (Citi adverse action) SIS (The big Adverse Action Thread)
To those whose posts I study - SIS, DaveHanson, Glitch99, JayK
And last but absolutely not least, special thanks to markkundinger for shouting "Quick, consider applying for a personal Juniper card! It's not an omelette if you don't break a few eggs." - Landed me an instant $20K approval.