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I just got the e-mail below from NWA WorldPerks ... looks like what's been talked about for a while is becoming true. The e-mail is very vague in what concerns the FF (frequent flyer) program. Will Delta Skymiles and NWA WorldPerks miles become one and the same currency? How soon? Don't we have an opportunity here to get a good chunk of miles with a single pretty large carrier (by combining rewards from two smaller programs)? Your experiences (with similar situations) and thoughts are appreciated.

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Dear cyberkost,

As a valued Northwest Airlines customer and WorldPerks® member, I wanted you to be among the first to hear that we have announced a merger with Delta Air Lines. Subject to regulatory review, our two airlines are joining forces to create America’s premier global airline which, upon closing of the merger, will be called Delta Air Lines.

By combining Northwest and Delta, we are building a stronger, more resilient airline that will be a leader in providing customer service and value. Our combined airline will offer unprecedented access to the world, enabling you to fly to more destinations, have more flight choices and more ways than ever to earn and redeem your WorldPerks miles.

You can be assured that your WorldPerks miles and Elite program status will be unaffected by this merger. In addition, you can continue to earn miles through use of partners like WorldPerks Visa®. And once the new Delta Air Lines emerges you can look forward to being a part of the world’s largest frequent flyer program with expanded benefits.

The combined Delta Air Lines will serve more U.S. communities and connect to more worldwide destinations than any global airline. Our hubs – both Delta’s and Northwest’s – will be retained and enhanced. We will be the only U.S. airline to offer direct service from the United States to all of the world’s major business centers in Asia, Latin America, Europe, Africa and around North America.

Both airlines bring tremendous strengths to this new partnership. Our complementary service networks form an end-to-end system that is truly greater than the sum of its parts. This is a merger by addition, not subtraction, which means all of our hubs – both Northwest’s and Delta’s – will be retained. In addition, building on both airlines’ proud, decades-long history of serving small communities, we plan to enhance global connections to small towns and cities across the U.S.

All of these positive benefits of our combination mean that we can:

* Offer a true global network where our customers will be able to fly to more destinations, have more schedule options and more opportunities to earn and redeem frequent flyer miles in what will become the world’s best and most comprehensive frequent flyer program.
* Continue to serve our current roster of destinations and to maintain our hubs in Atlanta, Cincinnati, Detroit, Memphis, Minneapolis/St. Paul, New York, Salt Lake City, Amsterdam and Tokyo.
* Improve our customers’ travel experience, through new products and services including enhanced self-service tools, better bag-tracking technology, more onboard services, including more meal options, new seats and refurbished cabins.

While we work to secure approval of our merger, which may take up to 6 to 8 months, it will be business-as-usual at both airlines. We will continue to operate as independent airlines and the people of Northwest will remain focused on providing you with the very best in safe, reliable and convenient air travel. At the same time, both airlines will be planning for a seamless integration of our two airlines, one that delivers to you the enhanced benefits that will earn – and retain – your preference.

As we work through this process, we will keep you informed at every step along the way. Thank you for your business and we look forward to serving you on your next Northwest flight.

Sincerely,

Bob Soukup
Managing Director, WorldPerks
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Message edited by: cyberkost on 2008-04-15 09:49:46 CDT

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I just applied for the worldperks visa card to get the 21k bonus miles, and I'm going to do the Delta one as well as it appears they will be combinable at some point in the future.

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got the same email. I hope they will merge the FF programs

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I was thinking the same thing. I have NWA miles banked but have never opened Delta account as I just don't travel their routes. Time for a Delta mini-App-O-Rama.

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I wonder how the new FF miles would work. They didn't go into specifics.

I sure hope they don't charge a fee for consolidating our Delta and nwa files together.

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If it works like it did when america west and US air merged, it will be automatic and free. They'll first merge accounts based on name and address. If they miss yours you call in and they do it manually.

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Since the new airline is called Delta, I presume they will follow the Delta FF airline mileage program after merger. Delta FF is crap - there are generally no seats available at the 25K mileage level. Compared to Delta, I like the AA program - AA allows conversion to Hilton Honors point ($25 fee) which Hilton will let you use anytime. If you are Hilton Gold and have a bunch of points after conversion, you can use them for a GLON2 award which is really nice. Not saying that this is the best use of points - but better than not being able to use the points at all.

When America Waste and USAir merged, AW was so happy to change their name to US Air - hoping that nobody would notice the switcheroo. Name change did not help - their service went from bad to worst. I get the feeling that with the unresolved Pilot issues, the NWA-Delta merger might be headed in the same direction.

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NW: 25K miles for US, Canada, and Mexico ticket; 60K miles for Asia
Does Delta have the same mileage requirements?

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snowbound66 said:NW: 25K miles for US, Canada, and Mexico ticket; 60K miles for Asia
Does Delta have the same mileage requirements?

Delta (from Continental US, Alaska, Canada) to:
Continental US, Alaska, Canada - 25K
Hawaii - 35K
Mexico - 30K
Caribbean - 30K
Europe - 50K
South Asia Subcontinent - 80K
Japan, South Korea - 60K
Southeast Asia - 60K
Central America - 35K
Northern South America - 35K
Southern South America - 50K
Africa - 80K
Russian Federation - N/A
Middle East - 80K
Southwest Pacific - 100K

Delta Skymiles Awards Chart

Message edited by: glxpass on 2008-04-14 23:31:59 CDT
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superdrew said:I just applied for the worldperks visa card to get the 21k bonus miles, and I'm going to do the Delta one as well as it appears they will be combinable at some point in the future.Seems like a good idea. Since credit cards are beginning to limit credit card sign-up bonuses to one per SSN, this seems like the right time to get the NWA sign-up bonus, then wait for the NWA WorldPerks to merge with Delta. I'll also get the Delta sign-up bonus. Those two bonuses should be enough for a free ticket of some kind.

Edited to add: Wow, $90 annual fee to get the 20K bonus. Not a good deal to me.

Message edited by: mapen on 2008-04-15 02:51:54 CDT
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Well if they DO merge my NW and Delta miles, then I'll have enough for a ticket!

<- not a frequent flyer on NW

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This might be a good time to use this link... if the offer is still good. The link still works, has anyone tried it recently? Curious if the no annual fee first year is still valid.

No annual fee first year

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Get a Cash Back card and then buy your plane tickets outright or whatever else you want to buy?

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SimpleMoney said:Get a Cash Back card and then buy your plane tickets outright or whatever else you want to buy?I haven't seen a Cash Back card with a 20K spend bonus in a while

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As far as credit cards go this could be good timing for me as I just churned my way through the last NW Visa product. Between Platinum, Signature and now Business I've gotten 75K+ miles over the last couple years. I don't have the check card, but the bonus is only 5000 miles and it does not look like they will waive the $55 fee, so a no-go. It will be time to start churning Delta branded cards soon.

If I will ever be able to spend those miles is a different issue depending on how the two programs get merged.

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I have booked both a free NWA and Delta ticket (both online) in the last 3 weeks.
Delta 25K ticket had a fee of $80.00.
NWA's 25K ticket had a fee of $7.50.
United 25K ticket the last time I booked last year was $5.00.

Any bets on which they use?

PS OP fix the title spelling for search.

Message edited by: dmlavigne1 on 2008-04-15 08:36:36 CDT
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Most frequent flyer programs are cash cows for airlines thanks to the sale of miles for various affiliate programs. I won't be surprised to see these airlines spin them off as standalone entities similar to what Air Canada has already done.

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They already are a member of the skyteam alliance, so should be a pretty straightforward conversion as far as the miles are concerned.

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dmlavigne1 said:... OP fix the title spelling for search.

Done, thanks for pointing out.

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