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mshen11

on the home page, click Savingsbond online direct, then hit go shopping.

right now the link is not working for me though.


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a historical question (since i became interested in i/eebonds this year), when banks were offering 6, 6.5% interest rates, were bond + cc flipping strategy still a viable option that beat interest rates?


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mshen11, yes, because bonds generally exceeded returns on savings accounts by a fair bit.

In theory, if interest rates went high enough and the bank interest/bond interest spread low enough, then the flipping strategy wouldn't work, as 3 months (minus any float) in forgone interest would exceed the CC rewards. In pratice, I can't see this ever happening, and certainly not last year at 6%.


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I just got a 0% BT CC. I have a bit of credit left over after transfering some CC debt I had. Is it wise for me to take the ~1500 credit left and buy some bonds? Should I ask the cc company for more credit? They sent me some nice checks I can write that can be used like the BT and still get the 0% for a year.

Since I already started the year period will I have any trouble cashing the bonds a couple days early if I buy a year bond?

--pat


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Pat, the strategy I like is buying them with a FBB Visa or similar card, ala NotaFool's strategy, then using your checks to pay off that FBB balance. That way, you get the fat rewards and the 0% interest benefit.

Not sure what you mean by the 1 year thing though, as bonds need be held only until the 6th month after purchase.


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Sorry my missunderstanding. I grew up in Canada and bonds there you puchased for specific length of time. I made the wrong asumption that these worked the same way. Good idea using the rewards card. I have an amex optima with rewards. I guess that will do. Thanks for the tip.

--pat


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When is the last day that you can buy bonds dated for July? I can't find this listed on the savingsbond.gove site. TIA.


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might not be up yet...they should be by the end of the week. I'm sure they can be purchased through next Monday.


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DH, Thanks for the info.

Btw, where do you find this "last date to purchase" on the savingsbond.gov website?


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A "by request" bump from a FW member earlier this evening...

and (OT) an honorary bump for the last undeleted NOTaFool post I could find, just above this one. His posts have been invaluable over the last 4 months. The fact that we disagreed pointedly from time to time doesn't diminish that at all.

I hope he reconsiders and returns. Peace to you, NOTaFool.


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Sounds like a good idea but where do you keep your bonds. Is it still a paper certificate? I don't know a good place to store them and keep track of all. Do you all rent a safe deposit box?


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DH and NOTaFool have both indicated that they keep them at home. Evidently they can be replaced if lost since they are associated with your social security number. Keeping track of the serial number for each bond would help facilitate their replacement if you did loose them.


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taylor is correct. I thought about a safe deposit box, but decided it wasn't necessary because of the ease of replacement.


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Leaving small denomination gift EE bonds at home is one thing, but I think the large 5k bonds seems risky to leave just anywhere. Like you said (thanks taylor and DH for your replies) the SSN will help getting a replacement in case a bond gets lost, just that you have to keep good records and not lose your list of bond serial numbers I guess. I think a safe deposit box might still be worth the peace of mind.


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Is it possible to request for bonds not to be sent by mail but having them deposited into treasury tbill account or any other brokerage account electronically?


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tooshy, I have about $28K in bonds in my drawer. With them all having my SS#, and the website instructions explaining how easy it is to get them replaced, I see ZERO risk, even if you don't have the serial numbers.

DWooley, I don't think that's possible, but it would be a nice idea.


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I like the savingsbond wizzard at www.savingsbonds.gov to keep track of mine. You plug in the serial numbers, dates of purchase, amounts, etc so you have all the info you need to replace them right there. Plus, it tells you what they're worth at any time.


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in about 30 days the rates will change again for i and ee bonds. any theories on what it will be and why?


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Am I understanding correctly? So can you redeem your bonds without the paper certificate, or must you always have a paper certificate in order to redeem. Sorry for the dumb questions, but I haven't bought bonds in decades and always thought it would be too much of a hassle to keep those paper certificates safe.

Also, is the Wizard site safe? Am I the only one who is this paranoid?


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