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Being that ACH won't work with overseas transfers, receiving funds from (or sending to) banks abroad are going to have to go through a bank wire.

I was surprised that no one has yet compiled a comprehensive list of what banks are most cost effective in sending and receiving International wires.

So far I have the receiving fees imposed by a few of the banks I bank with. Putting them in the QS.

Anyone know of a bank that has FREE incoming international wires?


Important: Many banks promise a fee-free transfer. Nevertheless, they are most probably using an intermediary bank who WILL charge a fee!

Bank of America = $45 fee for outgoing international wire
Banner Bank = $10 incoming wires, $18 outgoing international wires, $30 domestic (in OR and WA).
Etrade = no fee associated with receiving wires = $0. (Seems like intermediary bank charges $15)
Fidelity = no fee associated with receiving wires = $0.
HSBC = fee of $15.00 for an incoming wire transfer.
ShoreBank = fee to receive the wire is $5.
Wachovia = fee ranging from $15.00 to $50.00 for each international incoming wire transfer.
Washington Mutual = Free outgoing domestic and international wires only if the receiving account holds US Dollars. ~4.5% "hidden" charge is built into their exchange rates.
Washington Mutual = $10 Incoming. Unknown fee from Wells Fargo (-intermediary bank).
Meadows Credit Union = $0 Incoming/Outgoing/International with $5000 minimum balance & Direct Deposit (Savvy Checking account).

More comprehensive list on this wiki page

Message edited by: ananthar on 2009-06-07 19:53:25 CDT

So far I got the following replies:

HSBC = fee of $15.00 for an incoming wire transfer.
Wachovia = fee ranging from $15.00 to $50.00 for each international incoming wire transfer.
ShoreBank = fee to receive the wire is $5.


bittul said:Anyone know of a bank that has FREE incoming international wires?Quite often it is not just about the bank but about your relationship with the bank. BOA's Advantage customers, for instance, automatically receive free incoming wire transfers. I am a Premier customer with BOA, so my rep waives all my outgoing wire charges as well.

A while ago WAMU's free checking account also came with free incoming and outgoing wires (including outgoing international wires). I've used it for outgoing international wires before but haven't done it recently (I just used BOA instead) and have no idea whether they still do it.


bittul said:So far I got the following replies:

HSBC = fee of $15.00 for an incoming wire transfer.
Wachovia = fee ranging from $15.00 to $50.00 for each international incoming wire transfer.
ShoreBank = fee to receive the wire is $5.

I do not get charged for incoming domestic & international wires on my Wachovia accounts. For outgoing, I do not get charged for domestic wires (the computer automatically waives it even if the person doesn't). For international outgoing, the rep does actually has to selected "waive", and thus, I send all international wires from my rep so I never get accidentally charged the fee.


Etrade bank - free incoming wires including intl ($25 outgoing)


CycloneFW said:bittul said:So far I got the following replies:

HSBC = fee of $15.00 for an incoming wire transfer.
Wachovia = fee ranging from $15.00 to $50.00 for each international incoming wire transfer.
ShoreBank = fee to receive the wire is $5.


I do not get charged for incoming domestic & international wires on my Wachovia accounts. For outgoing, I do not get charged for domestic wires (the computer automatically waives it even if the person doesn't). For international outgoing, the rep does actually has to selected "waive", and thus, I send all international wires from my rep so I never get accidentally charged the fee.

Thanks for the input.

Intersting though, the rep I spoke to said the fee was a minimum of $15 for incoming international, and that it was "non-negotiable". Will try calling again.


geo123 said:bittul said:Anyone know of a bank that has FREE incoming international wires?Quite often it is not just about the bank but about your relationship with the bank. BOA's Advantage customers, for instance, automatically receive free incoming wire transfers. I am a Premier customer with BOA, so my rep waives all my outgoing wire charges as well.

A while ago WAMU's free checking account also came with free incoming and outgoing wires (including outgoing international wires). I've used it for outgoing international wires before but haven't done it recently (I just used BOA instead) and have no idea whether they still do it.

Interesting point. For me it's just a one-time transfer from Australia, but for future reference, it's good to know.


dsru said:Etrade bank - free incoming wires including intl ($25 outgoing)

Thank you! Confirmed this with a CSR.

edit: Forgot to ask CSR about their ForEx rate.


Just spoke to another CSR at Etrade, she said that the initiating bank must make the conversion to USD prior to sending the wire. (so there's no ForEx charge on their end)

Is this the case with other banks as well?


Another question is which bank(s) allow international wire transfer without visiting their branch. The other thread touches on the issue but I did not see an answer.
Basically, I'll be working in Singapore for a couple of years. I understand that I can transfer money from Sing to an US account by paying fees. However, what bank(s) allow me to transfer money from an US account to a Sing account while I am not in the US in case I need to? Could you recommend some setup that works?
Thanks in advance.


Great timing! I just noticed that Chase has raised their wire fees, so as of July 1 this is what you will pay:

WT - Domestic Outgoing - $25 / item
WT - Foreign Outgoing - $45 / item
WT - Foreign Incoming - $15 / item

I got this notice on both of my Chase business accounts, so I'm assuming it's across the board. I do know that if you have a Chase Merchant account these fees are usually lower, but there are other higher bank related fees.

What really sucks is that Chase has a super easy online WT system for both domestic and international transfers. We have used it for transfers to every part of the globe with very few problems, plus no trips to the bank and fairly helpful online / phone staff when you do run into problems.

I did some quick checking on other options and I believe Citibank's fees are lower, but I have heard mixed reviews of their online system. Any one want to confirm that?


I am a contractor in Chicago for a London Based company and I get paid by wire. I use WAMU and they seem to be a day faster then my co-workers banks as far as receiving the payment. I pay the $10 incoming fee, but what sucks is the additional $25 fee that is take by another bank that is helping move the money. Of course, I charge this back to my client since they have no other method of getting money to me


Never used Citi's wire system, but the international outgoing fee is $30 online, $40 if you go through a person. Citigold discounts the online fee to $20.

The incoming fee is always $10 for domestic or international, waived for Citigold.


thok said:Never used Citi's wire system, but the international outgoing fee is $30 online, $40 if you go through a person. Citigold discounts the online fee to $20.

The incoming fee is always $10 for domestic or international, waived for Citigold.

Outgoing Wire Fee is also waived for Citigold with $500k+ or PB customers.


bittul HSBC waived incoming wires fee for Premier Clients.

BOA also waives incoming wires fee for Premier Clients.


Navy Federal Credit Union has free incoming wire transfer.


BANNER BANK (OR/WA)

Wire Transfer – Customer
Outgoing .....................................................$20.00
Incoming .....................................................$10.00
International
Foreign Currency
(incoming and outgoing).........................$18.00
U.S. Currency
(incoming and outgoing).........................$30.00


i recently sent some $$ to india via Banner bank -> JP Morgan Chase (intermediary bank) -> final india bank.. total cost: $18 (banner bank) + $7 (chase fee)..... and then some minor conversion fee in india to convert $$ to Rs..... (just fyi... this was fast - 3 days total and interbank conversion rates received).


I've had to make several wire transfers to people in Europe, in Euro denominated account. In my experience, HSBC and Citi give terrible exchange rates, it was more than 5-10% above the interbank rate.

Everbank was pretty good - about 2% above the interbank rate, but there's a $50 transfer fee, which is small if doing big transfers. For smaller transfers, xe.com was the best - but you end up paying a slightly higher exchange rate.

In some cases, it may be better to send to a USD account overseas, and then have the receiving bank do the exchange. IN my experience (sending to SIngapore) - this was better than trying to send a Sing dollar denominated wire from the US.


singexpat said:Another question is which bank(s) allow international wire transfer without visiting their branch. The other thread touches on the issue but I did not see an answer.
Basically, I'll be working in Singapore for a couple of years. I understand that I can transfer money from Sing to an US account by paying fees. However, what bank(s) allow me to transfer money from an US account to a Sing account while I am not in the US in case I need to? Could you recommend some setup that works?
Thanks in advance.

SingExpat - I'm a US student based in Singapore, and I've had to go through exactly what you want to do. Open an account at DBS bank - it's the largest bank network in Singapore. They have a branch office in NY. You can make a domestic USD wire to the DBS bank in NY, then the money will "Pop-out" on the otherside in your DBS accout, converted at the interbank rate + 1-2%. IT was super conveninent - I used my citi account to do the transfer, since I was already in Singapore, and could use the citi online website to do the wire.

Here's info from DBS about doing exactly this:
DBS Wire instructions from the US




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