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Technologist
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posted: Jun. 12, 2008 @ 10:47p
Recently heard in ANY local strip club Stripper: So, you like what you see??? Tech (I mean patron): sure do.... hey I got something for you here (pointing at pocket)! Stripper: PERV!!! Tech (I mean patron): Hey wait, no, its a tip for you!!! Stripper: I'm calling the bouncer... Sure, a "tip" plus whtever is attached to it! Tech (I mean patron): No, really... Its a roll of JQA dollars... I'm helping the government CIRCULATE them!!!! Where you want me to put them??? << Sound of a hand SMACKING soft facial tissue!!! >> 
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Technologist
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posted: Jun. 12, 2008 @ 10:51p
On another note.... wouldn't it be cool if a bunch of us got the ONLY errored JQA coins produced, and ended up selling EACH coin for $500!!!! Now that would be a FWF / Hotdeal, all rolled into ONE! 
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GroveStreetOG
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posted: Jun. 12, 2008 @ 10:57p
gatzdon said:WalStMonky said:So far, in for $1000. Same address, credit card, 500 for me, 500 for the wife. If they ship I'll try again. Thanks OP, and guess what, I'll even use some for highway tolls. I'd certainly consider using more, but I use so darn little cash.
Just a word of advice.
When the First Spouse Gold coins came out, all the speculators attempted to get as many as they could due to low mintage and anticipated demand. The US Mint's web site accepted any and all orders, but over the course of a week, the duplicate orders were manually cancelled and some had all their orders cancelled. (of course the irony is that there was no demand and speculators lost a fortune on those coins selling them for melt value).
If one were to place multiple orders, I'd wait until you have a FedEx tracking number before placing a second order. I'm going to buy 2 boxes for my wife, and then will follow your advice and wait before repeating. But this situation is different than the First Spouse situation. The mintage was MUCH smaller than this one, and there isn't anything special about these coins, other than that they're novel and kind of cool. There isn't going to be any opportunity for speculation. I think that our coin orders are going to be pretty small potatoes compared to the number they are going to have available, which is probably in the tens of millions. |
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tarcapone
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posted: Jun. 12, 2008 @ 11:04p
Also, the website specifies two boxes per order, but not one order per person. |
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gatzdon
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posted: Jun. 12, 2008 @ 11:09p
GroveStreetOG said:........But this situation is different than the First Spouse situation. The mintage was MUCH smaller than this one, and there isn't anything special about these coins, other than that they're novel and kind of cool. There isn't going to be any opportunity for speculation. I think that our coin orders are going to be pretty small potatoes compared to the number they are going to have available, which is probably in the tens of millions. As far as logistics are concerned, I agree this is completely different. I was merely relaying a past experience with how the Mint handled order limits. All orders were accepted, but manually canceled at later time. I didn't want people to put in multiple orders thinking it was OK because a couple days go by and they didn't cancel yet. I personally am waiting for the FedEx confirmation before submitting any more orders. That way if they cancel, I'm guarenteed of still getting the first order.
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fasttimes
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posted: Jun. 12, 2008 @ 11:27p
soupcxan said:Note: these coins are made in China. Are you serious?!?!? |
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GroveStreetOG
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posted: Jun. 13, 2008 @ 12:01a
gatzdon said:GroveStreetOG said:........But this situation is different than the First Spouse situation. The mintage was MUCH smaller than this one, and there isn't anything special about these coins, other than that they're novel and kind of cool. There isn't going to be any opportunity for speculation. I think that our coin orders are going to be pretty small potatoes compared to the number they are going to have available, which is probably in the tens of millions.
As far as logistics are concerned, I agree this is completely different. I was merely relaying a past experience with how the Mint handled order limits. All orders were accepted, but manually canceled at later time. I didn't want people to put in multiple orders thinking it was OK because a couple days go by and they didn't cancel yet. I personally am waiting for the FedEx confirmation before submitting any more orders. That way if they cancel, I'm guarenteed of still getting the first order. Yep, very good advice and worth following. |
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WalStMonky
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posted: Jun. 13, 2008 @ 12:36a
I will update when I know one way or the other. But the way I read the terms I can order as many orders as I like, with a limit of $500 per order. Though as I said one is in my name and one is in wifey's so they're not exactly duplicate orders. |
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camiolo
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posted: Jun. 13, 2008 @ 12:37a
I feel bad.... I could make $5, but I'd cost the gov't at least $9 in shipping (plus credit card fee's, but whatever). I just don't feel it's right to get an extra $5 in my pocket at a cost to the economy of the shipping. I've failed as a fatwalleter.....  (got no problem with buying a cash item via CC, since the economy as a whole doesn't really see a decrease in the pie there. It's just the shipping costs the economy/environment, and doesn't seem worth the cost for such a small gain.)
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g10ny
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posted: Jun. 13, 2008 @ 12:37a
davamond said:bombcar said:Woohoo! I'm all up on this.
It looks like they ship via FedEx - and they'll reimburse you if it never arrives.
Orders are limited to two boxes ($500) per President.
Are there more Presidents available besides JQA? But we are going to have a new president this Nov, right? Hope it won't be McCoin though... |
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StevensEvil
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posted: Jun. 13, 2008 @ 12:49a
I only have a 1% Cash Back card. Is this worth it for the hassle? Any other 1% folks getting in on this deal? |
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WalStMonky
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posted: Jun. 13, 2008 @ 1:13a
camiolo said:I feel bad.... I could make $5, but I'd cost the gov't at least $9 in shipping (plus credit card fee's, but whatever). I just don't feel it's right to get an extra $5 in my pocket at a cost to the economy of the shipping. Do these things actually cost a dollar to produce? You just might be taking profit out of the gubbmints pocket by not buying... |
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SteelRing
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posted: Jun. 13, 2008 @ 1:32a
i'll need to get that 5% everywhere card, my 5% only good for gas, grocery pharmacy, and even that was cancelled to 2% last few months ago. sux to be me, i dont think 1% is worth it, 2% is questionable, but 5% i'm all over it. That's 5% instant, not 5% per year, so even if you're maxed to just one transaction per billing period, that's 5% per month deal. Still, the question, where can I get my 5% anywhere card? as for circulating the dollar? I'll buy it if they'll sell it to me for, say, $480 shipped. |
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ANightShopper
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posted: Jun. 13, 2008 @ 1:51a
Thanks, OP. Commerce bank's coin counting mashines will be handy this time. |
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bittul
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posted: Jun. 13, 2008 @ 1:58a
camiolo said:I feel bad.... I could make $5, but I'd cost the gov't at least $9 in shipping (plus credit card fee's, but whatever). I just don't feel it's right to get an extra $5 in my pocket at a cost to the economy of the shipping.
I've failed as a fatwalleter.....  Camilo, you just got me thinking here for a momment. Now, I'm sure that the government has decided on a budget to circulate these, and are going to spend millions on getting them circulated, so why shouldn't I help the government for a tiny fraction of their budget? I know it's going to cost them a few bucks to ship, and another tad in CC fees, but if WE do not order these coins, the government will devise some type of other (and more expensive) scheme to get them circulated. So there you have it. I am BOTH being the good samaritan AND making a few bucks along the way.  |
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PorStaker
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posted: Jun. 13, 2008 @ 2:12a
WalStMonky said:Bet you'll see gas under 3 before you'll see 5... Haha, gas prices went up 6.5 cents today, it is only about 25 cents below 5 dollars at the moment. Your prediction is not going to be accurate next week. |
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workindev
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posted: Jun. 13, 2008 @ 6:06a
One potential wrinkle to this plan is that many banks will charge a 10% - 15% fee for coin deposits, and some won't even accept coins in rolls because they have to use their own coin counting machine to verify the quantity. Make sure your bank will allow this deposit first, or be prepared to be spending a lot of $1 coins in the coming weeks. |
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gatzdon
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posted: Jun. 13, 2008 @ 6:21a
camiolo said:I feel bad.... I could make $5, but I'd cost the gov't at least $9 in shipping (plus credit card fee's, but whatever). I just don't feel it's right to get an extra $5 in my pocket at a cost to the economy of the shipping.
I've failed as a fatwalleter..... 
(got no problem with buying a cash item via CC, since the economy as a whole doesn't really see a decrease in the pie there. It's just the shipping costs the economy/environment, and doesn't seem worth the cost for such a small gain.) Don't feel too bad for our government. It only costs some 18¢ each to make these. The rest of that dollar goes straight into the US Treasury.
I can't find the link off hand, but last year, the Mint's profit on quarters was over $600 Million. That's with the Mint currently paying for all shipping and packaging costs for the quarters. As is tradition, the Mint pays for shipping and packaging costs on all commemorative coins issued for circulation. Depository Institions love it because they get reimbursed for all their costs for rolling and issuing NEW quarters, but not for re-issuing used quarters. I think they can afford to subsidize getting these coins into the hands of US Citizens so they can spend them. |
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gatzdon
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posted: Jun. 13, 2008 @ 6:26a
The US Mint is one of the few government departments that makes a profit and does not use taxpayer money. They actually put money in the US Treasury every year. So when you hear complaints about the penny/nickel costing "Taxpayers" money, it's quite the misnomer. It's costing the Mint money. What they are really complaining about is that the Mint is not depositing as much money in the treasury as they could be. Now if you wanted to feel sorry for anyone, it's the Federal Reserve System. They get these coins, they pay face value for them, and they are stuck storing them as there is very little demand for them.
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Message edited by: gatzdon on 2008-06-13 07:45:02 CDT
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