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Looks like things are flowing again. All orders made between 9/16 and 9/23 now have temporary holds placed on the credit cards.


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depreshun said: AreYouAMac said: BUT a order placed on 9/16 was originally suppose to be shipped on 10/01 but now its 10/3.


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Datapoint: My 09/16/09 order shipped today, 10/01/09


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Sucks to hear about everyone's bank problems. The tellers at my bank love me and all I do now is give them the small boxes of $250 and they accept that as a deposit. No fees, no coin counting machine, no coin bags. Instant credit to my account


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Giving them a single box is way different than giving them 40 boxes.


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Do both shipping options show up as free after running through the order form? I've been selecting standard shipping but saw above that someone mentioned they got them shipped overnight.


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TheRealRayCharles said: Do both shipping options show up as free after running through the order form? I've been selecting standard shipping but saw above that someone mentioned they got them shipped overnight.It is better to read the quick summary than to make a post and remove all doubt....


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sechs said: TheRealRayCharles said: Do both shipping options show up as free after running through the order form? I've been selecting standard shipping but saw above that someone mentioned they got them shipped overnight.It is better to read the quick summary than to make a post and remove all doubt....

He can't read it. Ray Charles is blind.


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RedCelicaGT said: sechs said: TheRealRayCharles said: Do both shipping options show up as free after running through the order form? I've been selecting standard shipping but saw above that someone mentioned they got them shipped overnight.It is better to read the quick summary than to make a post and remove all doubt....

He can't read it. Ray Charles is blind.

Thats why he wants to be paid in dollar coins ...


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pthor1231 said: RedCelicaGT said: sechs said: TheRealRayCharles said: Do both shipping options show up as free after running through the order form? I've been selecting standard shipping but saw above that someone mentioned they got them shipped overnight.It is better to read the quick summary than to make a post and remove all doubt....He can't read it. Ray Charles is blind.Thats why he wants to be paid in dollar coins ... He's also dead.


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So who here is selling these on eBay? Someone is selling $25 rolls for $32 plus s/h and people are actually biting: link.


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polaris said: So who here is selling these on eBay? Someone is selling $25 rolls for $32 plus s/h and people are actually biting: link.

It's been a while since I have had the coin collecting bug, so I'm not familiar with the terminology anymore. How accurate is calling these coins uncirculated, since the mint specifies they are non-numismatic circulation grade coins?


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jackcrawfish said: pthor1231 said: RedCelicaGT said: sechs said: TheRealRayCharles said: Do both shipping options show up as free after running through the order form? I've been selecting standard shipping but saw above that someone mentioned they got them shipped overnight.It is better to read the quick summary than to make a post and remove all doubt....He can't read it. Ray Charles is blind.Thats why he wants to be paid in dollar coins ... He's also dead.

No I'm not, that was TheFakeRayCharles they found. I was tired of the limelight... Of course, I feel safe revealing myself to you here on FWF because I know you are all very trustworthy!


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The eBay trade has been going on forever. Most of the time the auctions don't seem to close, but clearly there is an opportunity here to make a few extra bucks on the coins you are buying. Its all a question of time.


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That guy doesn't seem to have any that actually sold.


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largeeyes said: That guy doesn't seem to have any that actually sold.

It's not a lot, but that seller did sell 9 rolls of dollar coins in September at a 28% profit.


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RedCelicaGT said: sechs said: TheRealRayCharles said: Do both shipping options show up as free after running through the order form? I've been selecting standard shipping but saw above that someone mentioned they got them shipped overnight.It is better to read the quick summary than to make a post and remove all doubt....

He can't read it. Ray Charles is blind.
The quick summary is accessible. This is not an excuse.


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polaris said: largeeyes said: That guy doesn't seem to have any that actually sold.

It's not a lot, but that seller did sell 9 rolls of dollar coins in September at a 28% profit.

If your an eBay seller, selling these coins (you only need to create one listing) might be the little extra push needed towards obtaining powerseller status (I believe it's still $1500 sales a month for 3 months..)

After factoring eBay and Pay Pal fees, the actual profit is considerably less then 28%. Closer to 10%. Still, making $2.50 for packaging something up (2 minutes) isn't bad as a seller, creating that one listing needed (multiple quantities) took less then 5.


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rshot said: polaris said: largeeyes said: That guy doesn't seem to have any that actually sold.

It's not a lot, but that seller did sell 9 rolls of dollar coins in September at a 28% profit.


If your an eBay seller, selling these coins (you only need to create one listing) might be the little extra push needed towards obtaining powerseller status (I believe it's still $1500 sales a month for 3 months..)

After factoring eBay and Pay Pal fees, the actual profit is considerably less then 28%. Closer to 10%. Still, making $2.50 for packaging something up (2 minutes) isn't bad as a seller, creating that one listing needed (multiple quantities) took less then 5.
Most sellers would insure, no? So that means a trip to the post office. Anyway, I can't be bothered going to the bank, so no way in hell I will be bothered posting a listing and shipping these things.


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DavidScubadiver said: rshot said: polaris said: largeeyes said: That guy doesn't seem to have any that actually sold.

It's not a lot, but that seller did sell 9 rolls of dollar coins in September at a 28% profit.


If your an eBay seller, selling these coins (you only need to create one listing) might be the little extra push needed towards obtaining powerseller status (I believe it's still $1500 sales a month for 3 months..)

After factoring eBay and Pay Pal fees, the actual profit is considerably less then 28%. Closer to 10%. Still, making $2.50 for packaging something up (2 minutes) isn't bad as a seller, creating that one listing needed (multiple quantities) took less then 5.
Most sellers would insure, no? So that means a trip to the post office. Anyway, I can't be bothered going to the bank, so no way in hell I will be bothered posting a listing and shipping these things.

You put insurance on a 25 dollar item??? you can buy insurance online anyway.


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Anybody else seeing increased success in getting orders for Presidents through?

My last (4) orders for Presidents have all gone through without a problem, the last of which shipped out today. I have another (5th) order that has just gone from 'on hold' to 'in process, in stock and reserved'. All of these orders for the Presidential $1 coins have been placed using the same name, same ship to address, same credit card, same everything, and none of them have ever been put on hold or cancelled.

$2500 Presidents shipped out on 08/21/2009
$2500 Presidents shipped out on 9/4/2009
$2500 Presidents shipped out on 9/22/2009
$2500 Presidents shipped out on 10/2/2009
$2500 Presidents 'in process, in stock and reserved' 10/2/2009

So much for any 'per household' limit. Or am I just lucky?


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drumdrum said: Has anyone had success in getting a large amount of missing coins replaced by the mint? UPS dropped off about 20K worth at the gate at the base of my driveway even though the gate is open. It was supposed to be a sig required delivery but they didn't even attempt to come to my house. When I look at the UPS tracking link it says delivered and it was signed by me. This is impossible. The coins are no where to be seen. I have read that it is futile to initiate a charge back on my CC and that you have to take it up directly with the Mint then they will file a claim with UPS. For anybody that has had to deal with this, was a police report necessary and what was the end result?

This is all possible. Some guy recently got in trouble for stealing over 30000+ DVDs. Pursue this heavily. You will probably get a lot of flak when filing a police report. Who in their right mind orders that much in cash? But this is FWF, so a lot of us are nutty in this respect.

First, pursue the delivery person. Second, UPS and other signature based mail policies need to be updated with proof of residence, or an outright recipient account set up through the internet. Recipients could set up a qualified person for pickup. They too must show ID to sign for said package/s. Third, purchase a security system. Track the shipping of these packages with your 24/hr camera system hooked up to your home-office server. The cost of the home system ($200-400) will be easy to recoup with 1% to 2% Cash Back rewards. I know I'll be investing in a system if this happens, regardless of how small the shipment loss.

You could also consider staggering your orders on different days. I notice that orders I make on the same day all ship together. So make your orders on different days. You put yourself up for risk for delayed shipping, but prevent a larger loss if this ever happens.


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drumdrum said: Has anyone had success in getting a large amount of missing coins replaced by the mint? UPS dropped off about 20K worth at the gate at the base of my driveway even though the gate is open. It was supposed to be a sig required delivery but they didn't even attempt to come to my house. When I look at the UPS tracking link it says delivered and it was signed by me. This is impossible. The coins are no where to be seen. I have read that it is futile to initiate a charge back on my CC and that you have to take it up directly with the Mint then they will file a claim with UPS. For anybody that has had to deal with this, was a police report necessary and what was the end result?

I have them delivered to my work address where UPS brings many packages directly to my desk and I sign for them. I have had several packages of coins that were "signed" by me according to UPS that were just left on my desk when I was away from it. Clearly they had forged my "signature." Based on this experience, I would NEVER trust UPS tracking system again! Good luck with that, I'd be freaking out over $20K lost...


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drumdrum said: Has anyone had success in getting a large amount of missing coins replaced by the mint? UPS dropped off about 20K worth at the gate at the base of my driveway even though the gate is open. It was supposed to be a sig required delivery but they didn't even attempt to come to my house. When I look at the UPS tracking link it says delivered and it was signed by me. This is impossible. The coins are no where to be seen. I have read that it is futile to initiate a charge back on my CC and that you have to take it up directly with the Mint then they will file a claim with UPS. For anybody that has had to deal with this, was a police report necessary and what was the end result?

Your very first step is to file a police report and then call UPS on a Saturday, yes, TODAY, to report the incidence, not waiting till Monday. Third, you should contact your credit card company TODAY to reverse the charge. If you have nothing to hide, a police report will put pressure on UPS delivery person to see whom forged your signature.

Before Mint changes its policies to signature required delivery, many people claimed they did not receive the packages. Shortly, after the changes, we heard a lot less complains about missing packages.

After Mint changes its policies to signature required delivery, the only way not to get the package is that someone forged your signatures, unless the package is stolen. Now, the pressure is on UPS to prove your signature is not forged.

If someone stole your coins, either the UPS delivery person, your neighbor, or a stranger, a police report is essential to establish the timeline. You seem to put all the blames on UPS and I found this troublesome.


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Regions Bank made me break open all the rolls and deposit into coin bags. I did a $10k US Mint order, and when I received the order I put each 8 $250 boxes ($2000) in each bag, 5 bags total, and deposited them. Today I was credited with the following amounts:

1,411.40
1,872.20
1,999.25
2,000.00
2,609.11
total: 9891.96

so they shorted me $108.04. I don't even understand how there can be a .40, .20, .25, and .11. the only thing in the bags were $1 native american coins! What should be the recommended course of action? Call the bank's customer service 800#? visit the branch where I deposited the coins? contact the CEO of Regions?


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I had the same problem with BofA to the tune of $180.XX. The branch manager investigated and gave me the receipts from their 3rd party coin counting company (Loomis) showing the amounts, along with emails to Loomis stating that they count each batch twice for accuracy. I wrote a letter to the executive offices, which resulted in a letter from their research and adjustments department wanting more information. Their investigation is still pending, but I'm not optimistic. The good news is I've made far more than what I'm out. I had it happen one other time for < $50 which the bank gave me a goodwill.


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I had a small $3 issue with TD for a $500 deposit. They denied it was their machine and showed me a test of other coin rolls being accurate. I got credited the money back but it made me hesitant to break up the rolls going forward. Has anyone tested the counting of the rolls for accuracy? I would assume the mint would have to be 100% but, then again, it is part of the federal gov't.


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I'm getting sketchy depositing these at USBank. They always welcome my ~2k with but they always ask me where I get them from and seem suspicious. I am rotating banks so that's a good thing. I am getting them within a week of ordering now though, so I guess volume might be down.

On a side note, I tried buying carparts off CL with $100 bucks of rolled DC's and the dude wouldn't take them. He didn't believe they existed.


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drumdrum said: Has anyone had success in getting a large amount of missing coins replaced by the mint? UPS dropped off about 20K worth at the gate at the base of my driveway even though the gate is open. It was supposed to be a sig required delivery but they didn't even attempt to come to my house. When I look at the UPS tracking link it says delivered and it was signed by me. This is impossible. The coins are no where to be seen. I have read that it is futile to initiate a charge back on my CC and that you have to take it up directly with the Mint then they will file a claim with UPS. For anybody that has had to deal with this, was a police report necessary and what was the end result?

The only way that this story would have been more unbelievable was if you had identified Bigfoot as the likely culprit.


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How do you know they were dropped off at your gate?


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pthor1231 said: Giving them a single box is way different than giving them 40 boxes.

No no, I deposit way more than $250 at a time lol. Sometimes just $2-2.5k but a lot of times $5-7k and I still just give them the individual boxes instead of opening each one and fishing out both white trays. I guess I just got a cool bank!


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pacman777 said: Last time I go to this branch.

That was probably her goal.


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lotusgardener said: I am rotating banks...
This might be an invitation for a SAR. See item 19 -> (8): "Same individual(s) using multiple locations over a short time period".


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Yeah I realized that, so I am really trying to find a bank with a coin counter ASAP!


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lotusgardener said: Yeah I realized that, so I am really trying to find a bank with a coin counter ASAP!

Shrug I found coin counters to be more of a hassle then just handing it to them directly.

Coin Counters the one I been to had to be empty out every 100 coins or so. I was only doing 1,000 then and well 10 bags empty pissed off the bank more then handing it over I think.


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lotusgardener said: I'm getting sketchy depositing these at USBank. They always welcome my ~2k with but they always ask me where I get them from and seem suspicious. I am rotating banks so that's a good thingRotating branches of the same bank is not such a good idea. But perhaps you mean rotating b/t completely separate Banks, which is not as negative.


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drumdrum said: Has anyone had success in getting a large amount of missing coins replaced by the mint? UPS dropped off about 20K worth at the gate at the base of my driveway even though the gate is open. It was supposed to be a sig required delivery but they didn't even attempt to come to my house. When I look at the UPS tracking link it says delivered and it was signed by me. This is impossible. The coins are no where to be seen. I have read that it is futile to initiate a charge back on my CC and that you have to take it up directly with the Mint then they will file a claim with UPS. For anybody that has had to deal with this, was a police report necessary and what was the end result?

No, but I have had luck from housekeepers throwing out boxes that were still full of coins. This one house I drove by, they had hauled them out to the trash and left them by the gate! CHA CHING!


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Squeezer99 said: Regions Bank made me break open all the rolls and deposit into coin bags.

I am using Regions too but they never asked me to put the coins in the coin bags. I deposited up to 5K at a time without any problems. OTOH, Chase asked me to buy bags to deposit the coins and then I would have to pay the "handle" fee on top of the cost of the bags (see my post in this thread about a month ago. Obviously, I am depositing my coins at Regions now.

Both of these two banks are huge banks downtown area, not some small satellite branches.


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ymf said: lotusgardener said: I am rotating banks...
This might be an invitation for a SAR. See item 19 -> (8): "Same individual(s) using multiple locations over a short time period".

Unless you're announcing to the branch staff that you're rotating banks, they won't know enough to do a SAR. Now if you're rotating branches within the same bank....that's a different story.


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I think if you're rotating branches on the same day and doing large amounts at each, that's much more likely to lead to a SAR. If you do a small amount at one branch on Monday and a small amount at another branch on Thursday, nothing is going to happen.

If you have checking accounts at three different banks and you use two different branches for each bank and deposit $300 per visit, that's $1800 you can dump every week without raising any red flags. Nobody is going to bat an eyelash if you only bring $300 to each branch per week. I know a lot of people like to churn way more than $1800 per week, but for someone just doing this on a small scale, it's really not that hard to stay under the radar.


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Here's a thought for those that have been slapped on the hand by your credit card company. You can buy AMEX gift cards (max value per card $3,000.00), they no longer have maintenance or any of the other fees and using code AMX806 you get the shipping off, you still have to pay 4.95 but it might be worth it if you're making more off the deal. For example, i did the purchase process to the end with (1) $2,000.00 gift card.
Gift Card(s) Total: $2,000.00
Total Fees: $4.95
Shipping Total: $12.95
Promotion Discount: $-12.95
Total: $2,004.95

also noticed, the more you buy, the lower the total fees.

If someone can put more brain power then I can put to this right now, you might be able to make this better, they say:

BUY MORE AND SAVE: Buy 25 or more Gift Cards and automatically get 10% off the Gift Card fee today. You'll also get a promotional code for free shipping on your next order of 50 Gift Cards or more.


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