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chocula
- Broke Member
posted: Jul. 3, 2008 @ 9:13p
jef2000 said:sonnysighedup said:I didn't know this and would be grateful if you could point me to where and when creditors expressed diminished confidence in TU's reporting, especially as it relates to bumpage.
I don't know that it was done publicly, but I'm sure it was going on in private. Credit reporting and scoring is all about producing accurate models. Allowing people to manipulate the data in a way that distorts what the information purports to represent makes the model less accurate. Do you think that that once their customers found out the information was flawed, they would continue purchasing the product -- particularly when there's more accurate information available. Doubtful. The three credi reporting agencies have somewhat of a monopoly on what they do. Lenders use all three to report credit and to give credit (with a mortgage, for example). The lenders may have lost some confidence in the companmies, but there is little to nothing they can do besides ask these agencies to change their policy. |
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penumbra222
- Ancient Member
posted: Jul. 3, 2008 @ 9:34p
No TU inquiries returned yet. Bumped exclusively with CreditSecure several months ago. Last name starts with D. |
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ShaneM
- Senior Member - 3K
posted: Jul. 3, 2008 @ 9:46p
Last name M. Still sitting at 4 TU and I know for a fact that I've bumped at least 15-20 in the last 18 months. |
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74ak
- Addicted Member
posted: Jul. 3, 2008 @ 10:02p
dolmar said:got to admit Transunion was pretty smart. They had people paying them years to use there service for B* then they went back and added all those inquiries. So for the last couple of years they were able to increase there cash flow and pump up there profits for wall street etc.
Very stupid move on their part. The cash flow will dry out soon FW retaliation plan: Short EXPN and EFX stocks! |
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didNOTsearch
- Senior Member
posted: Jul. 3, 2008 @ 10:11p
those Mother F-ERs, 4 INQs came back from late 2006. time to cancel TrueCredit |
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guru101
- New Member
posted: Jul. 3, 2008 @ 10:15p
PolarDude said:I'm speculating that TU is chopping their own INQs from their familiy of services, and adding hards when there is new room. However, if you use non TU based services, especially several, you may be able to use up all their space, and thus, little to none inquiries added back. Anyone care to disprove this theory? I'd like to hear from people with multiple non-tu based services. Some people seem to only get some of their inquries back, while others get them all, back to Aug/06. Have inq's been added more than once, or is it a one shot deal?
I would also like to hear from anyone getting FRESH bumpage, since this happened. I tend to agree on this. I think they have just changed the algorithm for recording the soft pulls made by the users themselves i.e. not all of them get place in the file. That's the reason they claim fresh b*** won't happen. |
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Glitch99
- Senior Member - 5K
posted: Jul. 3, 2008 @ 10:22p
6 inquiries were restored today, all from my A0R last October (I got 7 TU inquiries from that, so one was not restored - only one of two inq dated 10/6 came back, in addition to inquiries dated 10/8, 10/10, 10/10, 10/13, and 10/16). Had 14 as of mid-Nov; according to previous copies of my report I've actually had 13 inquiries over the past two years. Adding 6 eight-month-old inquiries dropped my PM123 score 15 points, CreditKarma score (whereever that comes from) dropped 24 points. All self-initiated pulls from TrueCredit and PM123, except for ~50 from CreditKarma. Last name - "T" One interesting note - one inquiry was originally from "FIA CSNA", it is now listed as being from "Bk of Amer". |
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NukeMedDude
- Senior Member - 1K
posted: Jul. 3, 2008 @ 10:23p
didNOTsearch said:those Mother F-ERs, 4 INQs came back from late 2006.
time to cancel TrueCredit LOL @ Mother F-KERs. On a side note, just checked my report and none of the INQ's I've bumped off have reappeared. My name starts with a V, so I'm not sure if anyone has proven that to be of any significance, just a data point.
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dolmar
- Senior Member - 4K
posted: Jul. 3, 2008 @ 10:33p
Last names means nothing. My last name starts with B and I think none of my inquires I bumped have shown back up yet as my Karma CS has not changed in over 1 month but I am sure they will sooner or later. Only reason I am using Credit Karma is because I canceled TU like 3 months ago. I noticed people on credit boards have reported inquiries have shown back up on there reports and there last name start with E,F, G so maybe the order they are processing people accounts is based on SSN, or people who have active TU credit service or some other method but it does not seem to be based solely on your last name. |
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redsox9547
- Senior Member
posted: Jul. 3, 2008 @ 10:50p
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tuffghost
- Senior Member
posted: Jul. 4, 2008 @ 12:16a
Does Credit Karma use Transunion Interactive as its underlying engine? Perhaps that's why my inquiries haven't been added back, since most of them were bumped using CK for about 2 months straight back in March and April, and I still continue to use CK pretty often; I only did about 4 pulls using PM123 back in April. I don't think last names have anything to do with this. Can anyone who has had their inquiries added back tell us if their soft inquiries have been chopped from their TU report? |
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WalStMonky
- Happy Member
posted: Jul. 4, 2008 @ 4:43a
My last name starts with B and I think none of my inquires I bumped Wow, dolmar bumps. Hey dolmar, I thought you thought it highly unethical to game the system in order to make the issuers think your less of a risk. Perhaps you just bump for kicks and giggles? There's a word running through my brain and it starts with the letter h, ends with e, and has 9 letters... |
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Rorer714
- Senior Member
posted: Jul. 4, 2008 @ 5:18a
WalStMonky said:My last name starts with B and I think none of my inquires I bumped
Wow, dolmar bumps. Hey dolmar, I thought you thought it highly unethical to game the system in order to make the issuers think your less of a risk. Perhaps you just bump for kicks and giggles? There's a word running through my brain and it starts with the letter h, ends with e, and has 9 letters...LOL!!! Am I close? H _ _ _ C _ _ _ E |
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HappyGuy
- Happy Member
posted: Jul. 4, 2008 @ 6:31a
Strange, One just bumped off! I had three come back yesterday and one of thos is gone now. All were in the last 6 months.I pull with credit secure. |
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cashonlyplease
- Member
posted: Jul. 4, 2008 @ 8:46a
tuffghost said:Does Credit Karma use Transunion Interactive as its underlying engine? Perhaps that's why my inquiries haven't been added back, since most of them were bumped using CK for about 2 months straight back in March and April, and I still continue to use CK pretty often; I only did about 4 pulls using PM123 back in April. I don't think last names have anything to do with this.
Can anyone who has had their inquiries added back tell us if their soft inquiries have been chopped from their TU report? They chopped the heck out of my softs. Just showing half my pulls from CIDP from May-June and only 2 of my AR from CITI appear. |
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dolmar
- Senior Member - 4K
posted: Jul. 4, 2008 @ 9:25a
WalStMonky said:My last name starts with B and I think none of my inquires I bumped
Wow, dolmar bumps. Hey dolmar, I thought you thought it highly unethical to game the system in order to make the issuers think your less of a risk. Perhaps you just bump for kicks and giggles? There's a word running through my brain and it starts with the letter h, ends with e, and has 9 letters... LOL I never done a full App-O-Rama nor have I ever said it was unethical to do App-O-Rama. I have said it is unethical to lie on an application and inflate your income. I have comment in the past that I do not understand why people complain when adverse action is taken against considering they are gaming the system. There is a difference but please fell free to link 1 place where I said "Bumpage or App-O-Rama were highly unethical or even just unethical". I can link plenty of places were I said "I do not understand why you are complaining as you gamed the system and got nailed, caught etc. Or App-O-Rama is gaming the system and if the issuer would have know you planned to apply for 30 cards you would not have received that limit" or "Issuers interpretation of the term household income does not include everyone in your frat house, apartment complex etc but only people contributing to the household expenses like BF and GF or a married couple etc." If you can not understand or see the difference between what I said and you think I said then I am sorry. Btw 3 inquiries I bumped came back today as my score dropped by 33 points on credit karma. So they are not doing it by last name like I thought. |
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urage
- Greedy Member
posted: Jul. 4, 2008 @ 11:44a
Just pulled today to see 4 inquiries back up.  |
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cashandmorecash
- Member
posted: Jul. 4, 2008 @ 12:52p
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lhendricks92
- Senior Member - 1K
posted: Jul. 4, 2008 @ 1:13p
If you're gaming the system, and you get caught, you have no right to be outraged. It's happened to me, and I dealt with it, but I didn't blame Citi for trying to curtail my not-profitable-for-them activities. If TU wants to bring back all my bumped inquiries, so be it. I'm not going to whine about it. |
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RedCobra
- Member
posted: Jul. 4, 2008 @ 1:15p
The last time I had AA due to a recent AOR, it was because of too many new accounts, not too many inquiries. If you do a massive or rolling AOR and get lots of cards, this whole bumpage thing is a non-issue. |
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