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I am the lucky holder of IndyMac Brokered CD's in my brokerage account. I wanted to point out some of the nuances of brokered CD's in the event that your bank fails.

-Neither broker "announced" there was a failed bank CD in my account or provided any information about the CD's for about a week, and even then, it was only when customer service was contacted directly and repeatedly that I received any information.

-While bank customers have the option of holding the CD to maturity or being cashed out, brokered CD's are cashed out, period.

-Brokered CD's stop accruing interest immediately upon bank failure.

-Brokers are required to file special paperwork for FDIC pass-thru insurance. You can't really contact the FDIC to find out if you are insured. I'm below the limits, so it isn't really an issue with me, but you can't use the "Am I insured" web page set up for IndyMac account holders.

-This weekend, the position value was changed to zero. I was told it is because they no longer trade, but it is quite a wake-up call to see your balance evaporate. I've been told by the broker not to worry.

-The FDIC does not have the same sense of urgency with brokered deposits. They will pay your broker, who will pay you, after they review the pass-thru insurance paperwork, usually in less than 60 days.

-Be sure to compare rates between the bank and broker. They often have very different rates for the same term.

-Some brokers (FirsTrade) are actually charging commissions on primary market CD's.

There is a convenience factor with brokered CDs, but folks should understand the difference between the two.

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Thank you for the information.

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ty, op

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So, does this mean that if the bank of a brokered CD fails, while your P&I up to the failure is safe, it may sit in no interest limbo for as much as 60 days?

I may have to be a little choosier and do more (some) research when investing in brokered CDs going forward.

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I want to add my two cents since I just went thru the brokered CD thingy with FDIC
with a bank called ANB Financial

I can't tell you this will happen with your CD at IndyMac but I had my money in my account
in less than two weeks from the date the bank failed.

IF you are a large buyer of brokered CD's I'd suggest that you enroll in a FREE e-mail notification
service from the FDIC. Once you enrolled in this (enroll from their website) they send you an e-mail
within an hour of the bank failure.

Note: they usually close these puppies on a Friday evening.

I am a big believer in brokered CD's. Like anything else, there are pros and cons.

Another CON is, you can't just bring your CD back early and take the interest penalty like you would
if you had bought a CD from your local bank, not can you take a loan against it, etc. Finally, brokered CDs are not
marginable, if you are a margin customer.

On the PRO side, the rates are great particularly on the callable CD products!
Far better than anything you'd get at a local bank.

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crap I just posted this. sorry for double post.

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A couple of updates. People must have been calling Etrade, because 2 days after the CD went to zero, etrade put it back to the full amount. Firstrade still has it listed as ZERO.

Etrade paid off on the brokered CD today. Firstrade still has not.

FDIC brokered deposit overview

It is very clear that the CD ends on the day of the bank failure (both term and interest), so yes, you could be looking at 60+ days with no interest accruing, which is why I normally only use brokered CDs in retirement accounts. The convenience of managing it all through one brokerage account is great v. rate chasing individual CDs, especially in a retirement account.

I don't want to think about if they screw up the pass-thru paperwork or there are issues when the FDIC cross-checks to see if you have other deposits at the bank.


As mentioned, you can signup for the FDIC "bank failure friday" newsletters at
FDIC Alerts
I signed up for brokered deposits and was email at about 8:30pm with the 2 bank failures from last week. The notification that they paid off Etrade did not come via email.

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Here is another angle to consider... if you have a brokered CD with interest paid "at maturity", but the bank borrowing the CD money fails before CD maturity, it may positively affect the CD's APY as a result of the shorter compounding period.

IE: Let's say you have a 1 year CD with a 3.4% annual interest rate and interest usually compounded/paid at maturity. The APY on this CD would therefore also be 3.4% APY.

Let's say after six months, the bank failed and you received a penalty-free early interest payment, calculated using the CD's 3.4% rate. Notwithstanding the loss of "float" from the day(s) you don't have access to the funds, your APY would get bumped a bit as a result of the shorter compounding cycle, from 3.4% APY to 3.429% APY.

This extra .029% APY would then pay for about 3 days of not having access to the funds (assuming they are earning no interest during that period.)

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I have not noticed where brokered CD's pay any better than deals available direct, and oftentimes worse.

That, coupled with this new information about automatic cancel's on bank failure, make me reconsider their benefit at all.

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To the contrary.

However, the brokered CD's I am referring to a LONG TERM CD's (15-20 yrs).

Current offering, for example: 15 yrs. @ 6.125%

Most B&M banks don't offer long term CD's and I'm not familiar with ANY that pay over 6%

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My experience with a brokered CD for Indymac from Scottrade: I never called Scottrade or inquired about the CD that I had from Indymac becuase I figured they would take care of everything just fine. The principal amount from the CD was credited to my account on 8/1. My CD was paying monthly interest and the partial July interest payment was credited on 8/1 as well.

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Firstrade credited the account last night as well.

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